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Aesthetics and lower center of gravity. The larger the body lift the larger gap you have to fill (or look at).
A bit of a trade off. Less positive offset, probably 0 as opposed to +35, will be through spacers or new wheels. Also increased scrub radius by pushing them out with some additional wear & tear.
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Body lift is more for clearing 37s and if you run body mounted sliders at getting them slightly higher.
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@Snacktime For the Eibach 2.0 coilovers you say 35s is about the biggest tire you can run but what if the 37 inch tire and wheel you go with are lighter then a 35 inch tire and wheel combo you are suggesting? For example the 37 ko2 load rating c is 64.8 lbs lighter then most 35s e rating. Also most aftermarket wheels rrw, fifteen 52, volks, etc… are lighter the oem wheels. Now if you combine for example fifteen 52 wheel and 37 ko2 c range you are weighing 92.3 lbs compare to oem Sasquatch wheel tire combo @ 87.5 lbs. We are talking about a 4.8 lbs difference here per axle. Is that weight difference really going to overwhelm the Eibach 2.0 coilovers? also is it going to cause more wear and tear on components? What really causes the wear and tear on the components the tire size or the tire weight? Cause if is the the weight then most people with 35s mts will have more wear and tear then someone running a lighter wheel and a 37ko2 combo.
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There are lots of folks running Elbach coilovers and 37” that are not complaining about and even praising the combo, so it is what folks are comfortable with more than anything…my stock yellow Sasquatch coilovers were completely overwhelmed when I went to 37s which were way heavier along with bigger than the stock wheels and super light 35s. But again there are lots of folks happily running 37s on Sasquatch coilovers out there. 37s add “leverage“ to components no matter the weight and weight is multiplied with the leverage so they both contribute to “wear and tear” on components (reason to upgrade steering) along with need for better suspension control (upgraded coilovers). But in the end it is still the user who decides so you do you! But don’t say you weren’t warned…
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Everyone should base purchase decisions on planned use. Understand that if hardcore wheeling is the planned use, be prepared that "upgrades" will be perpetual as things wear/break, or just don't perform adequately.
I bought Eibach coilovers as a stop gap before my Bronco was delivered because there just wasn't much available at the time and I got a great deal on them. So far, they are doing well with my setup (37s, etc.), but I am prepared to replace them if they can't keep up.
I bought Eibach coilovers as a stop gap before my Bronco was delivered because there just wasn't much available at the time and I got a great deal on them. So far, they are doing well with my setup (37s, etc.), but I am prepared to replace them if they can't keep up.
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Lots of happy people with Eibachs, you have to look at the application. I wouldn't run them with 37s as I don't want to get smoked by a Stock SAS setup. My 5100 Bilsteins really helped me keep pace till I added my 37s. Rides better doesn't always transition to real performance. Lite 37s indicate concern for on road ride so you may be happier with the softer Eibachs.
Here is a video of a review that Shock Surplus did on the Eibach kit about a year ago. Short version they liked them a lot but echoed similar concerns with 37’s. They go into tire dribble on the 37’s around the 5:18 mark.
They mention in the video that Eibach says this kit isn’t recommended for 37’s but I couldn’t find that documentation and when I called Eibach they weren’t super helpful as they say they don’t make any recommendations for any size as there are too many nuances.
Another thing to note, they state they were 35# heavier per corner than stock SAS setup. Mass comes into play but weight will increase the effects so lighter may not be as noticeable.
I am running the updated Eibach kit with the HD springs on Yoko 37’s (72#) and Icon Rebound Pros (29#). I’ve not noticed the tire dribble on or off road. But honestly I’m not blasting through trails either. On the road I drove it like I stole it and no issues.
FYI, I also upgraded to Icon delta joint UCA’s which they coincidentally did too. I thought maybe that was part of my better experience until I saw the video.
They mention in the video that Eibach says this kit isn’t recommended for 37’s but I couldn’t find that documentation and when I called Eibach they weren’t super helpful as they say they don’t make any recommendations for any size as there are too many nuances.
Another thing to note, they state they were 35# heavier per corner than stock SAS setup. Mass comes into play but weight will increase the effects so lighter may not be as noticeable.
I am running the updated Eibach kit with the HD springs on Yoko 37’s (72#) and Icon Rebound Pros (29#). I’ve not noticed the tire dribble on or off road. But honestly I’m not blasting through trails either. On the road I drove it like I stole it and no issues.
FYI, I also upgraded to Icon delta joint UCA’s which they coincidentally did too. I thought maybe that was part of my better experience until I saw the video.
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"too many nuances" == "wut huh yeh"
I mostly do slow speed rock crawling and forest service trails in Rockies. The stock badlands shocks work quite well in my opinion. What all would you recommend for replacement? I plan on keeping stock 35s. Maybe add 1 inch over stock Sasquatch. Looking for something that won’t be harsh at low speeds.
Bilstein 6112 look like the ticket?
Bilstein 6112 look like the ticket?
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I don't have any direct experience, but triangulating everything here and particularly Shock Surplus explanations, either the 6112 (which they still have not done a direct video on - but they speak to it in various other shock reviews) or even the 5100 series, though check out their video first.
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Just got my 4wp/procomps installed and so far am very happy with them. I was able to keep the fender height to 38 3/4 front and 39 7/8 rear. So a little less than an inch gained from non-sas badlands. Ride feels very similarly sprung to the badlands, but significantly more rebound damping. Overall feels less bouncy especially over large bumps.
Badlands swaybar makes the front a PITA to install.
Badlands swaybar makes the front a PITA to install.
That sounds like the same height my 2 door base Sas is so that's pretty good. Do you know where you set them at or have pictures showing where the collar is? I listed mine up for sale because of some bills that popped up, but with it getting warmer now, I'm thinking of keeping them and installing them to get a little lift for the 37's and level the truck.
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The rears are two collar revolutions after the collar contacts the spring. Could probably back off a touch more, but that is where I started. The fronts are 5 threads exposed and still had plenty of preload.
The real constraint is making sure in a full droop condition that you do not loose spring preload.
The two door will likely sit a bit higher than the 4 door.
The real constraint is making sure in a full droop condition that you do not loose spring preload.
The two door will likely sit a bit higher than the 4 door.
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I have a 4dr badlands non SAS with 35” wildtrack wheels on it currenlty. I’m getting the Ford Performance 2” lift coilovers put on tomorrow. I’ve read thru this thread but a little confused now, what should i expect for lift height out of the ford performance coilovers on my non sas badlands? From what i read here it looks like I’ll gain about 3/4-1” over a stock SAS height and about 1-1.5” over current ride height?
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