Sway-bar Disconnect Delete Challenge for all you Programmers

[orion]

Oh okay. I thought you meant disconnect the electrical connector.
Either way, he's looking to get rid of it all.

Yes, it hang’s pretty low.

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[BigMeatsBronco]

Yeah, let’s just totally de-engineer everything because we’re bored? Why do you want to get rid of arguably the defining feature of your trim package?? I will never understand human nature. Sell it and go buy an overpriced POS earlier generation. Second hand 6th gens will all be Frankensteins at this rate.

statements like this are a insult to human kinds sense of curiosity and the desire to learn, improve, modify , customize or fix anything we feel fit for... why did you even buy a bronco? Certainly not because the chassis and design lends itself to heavy modifications and Aftermarket accessories including those offered by the factory. And the ability to delete certain things like the roof or doors or in this case hopefully the stupid sway bar.

everything can be improved on....for example if Ford wanted to do something original and better than Jeep here, then they should not have just copied the other manufacturers design. they should have improved on the design by adding spider gears in the center....beating the other OEMs solid axle articulation with a swaybar reverser is totally possible.

 

[BAUS67]

They did not realize they were already building the Jeep killer.

Turbo diesel, 6 speed manual, solid axles front and rear in a shortened Ranger chassis.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/suvs/brazil-only-troller-t4-looks-completely-excellent

 

[BigMeatsBronco]

They did not realize they were already building the Jeep killer.

Turbo diesel, 6 speed manual, solid axles front and rear in a shortened Ranger chassis.

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/suvs/brazil-only-troller-t4-looks-completely-excellent

Wow that's quite amazing!!! wondering what's compatible...?

 

[BAUS67]

Wow that's quite amazing!!! wondering what's compatible...?

There was a time in this forum when many of us were praying for this to happen. It just made sense all you had to do was tweek it for the states. Left hand drive. Make the top removable. Already on the new Ranger chassis (T4) and that was the same as the Bronco. But sadly it never happened.

Not sure how compatible it would all need imported. World market is weird. Look at the Broncos overseas. They say they have a Wildtrack but it has Black Diamond steelies on it. Models are not the same as over here, so I'm not sure how all that would work.

 

[0ne]

statements like this are a insult to human kinds sense of curiosity and the desire to learn, improve, modify , customize or fix anything we feel fit for... why did you even buy a bronco? Certainly not because the chassis and design lends itself to heavy modifications and Aftermarket accessories including those offered by the factory. And the ability to delete certain things like the roof or doors or in this case hopefully the stupid sway bar.

everything can be improved on....for example if Ford wanted to do something original and better than Jeep here, then they should not have just copied the other manufacturers design. they should have improved on the design by adding spider gears in the center....beating the other OEMs solid axle articulation with a swaybar reverser is totally possible.

Not gonna argue with the owner of the most Frankensteined Bronco on this forum who’s proved at least one of my points…

 

[KABQ]

So I’m a genius for getting a base sas model with minimal tchotchkes foretelling future headaches to come?

Don't be too proud of yourself. I've already had a brake module failure on my BaseSquatch. Happened at 1300 miles. The failures will come for us all!

 

[0ne]

Don't be too proud of yourself. I've already had a brake module failure on my BaseSquatch. Happened at 1300 miles. The failures will come for us all!

Don’t jinx me bro

 

[Felix808]

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[BigMeatsBronco]

Yep, CHCM or chassis control module.
The only thing the ABS supplies is wheel speed and drive mode data for the CHCM.

well since it screws up the goat modes I respectfully disagree. I do believe the ABS module is very involved in this function.

for example in some modes, like mud and ruts, the swaybar is automatically disconnected. So the ABS module is likely received information from the CHCM, at that point? or is it the other way around? and the CHCM received the command from ABS?

Edit, your likely correct as I've tried Braptor ABS forscan changes with the goal to get the swaybar to stay disconnect at higher speeds...with no success. 40mph might be successful with CHCM as built changes???

 

[Ducati1098]

well since it screws up the goat modes I respectfully disagree. I do believe the ABS module is very involved in this function.

for example in some modes, like mud and ruts, the swaybar is automatically disconnected. So the ABS module is likely received information from the CHCM, at that point? or is it the other way around? and the CHCM received the command from ABS?

Edit, your likely correct as I've tried Braptor ABS forscan changes with the goal to get the swaybar to stay disconnect at higher speeds...with no success. 40mph might be successful with CHCM as built changes???

Yes, ABS is involved, but changing ABS alone is going to mess with a bunch of modules. You have to remember that they all talk/work together on the network. ABS is just one of many modules that receive/send information when a different drive mode is selected.
If they do not see the correct information coming from the ABS, a lot of things will not function correctly.
Here is just a small amount of the information from the workshop manual.

The ATCM (All terrain control module) which is the GOAT mode rotary dial is the logic module for the front/rear ELD and all GOAT mode features. It also contains stabilizer bar disconnect logic for when a specific GOAT mode requests the disconnect.

The CHCM is the logic module for the front stabilizer bar disconnect system. Multiple modules/system inputs are used for the front stabilizer bar disconnect system to enable the connection and disconnection of the stabilizer bar depending on the request or the drive mode.

Other modules involved include the PCM, AWD, SIMA (hero switch module). These all send and receive data when a request for the stabilizer bar to connect/disconnect.
Some of these may not need to be changed, but many of them will throw some type of fault if it isn't getting correct information.

This diagram is for the CHCM to show some information of what each module is supplying over the network.

 

[BigMeatsBronco]

I'm gonna try Braptor as builts again on some other modules and try to keep track of what the changes are doing...I really want the swaybar to stay disconnected up until 40mph like the Braptor.

 

[vrtical]

Has anyone explored the idea of mapping out the pins on the connector, then maybe use a resistor (jump) ? basically make it a workable dummy plug? my guess its looking for some volt signal to the unit.

 

[Beach_Bum]

FrankenBronco

What trim is it?

OBX High with BD steelies and rock rails.

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World market is weird. Look at the Broncos overseas. They say they have a Wildtrack but it has Black Diamond steelies on it. Models are not the same as over here, so I'm not sure how all that would work.

Even more complicated than that. I presume you are referencing the ME Wildtrak? If one gets a 4-dr WT in the ME, it is an actual WT that we get here sans tint on the glass. If one gets a 2-dr WT in the ME, it is an actual Big Bend HOSS 1.0 with Black Diamond optional wheels sans tint on the glass.

 

[mpeugeot]

OBX High with BD steelies and rock rails.

Even more complicated than that. I presume you are referencing the ME Wildtrak? If one gets a 4-dr WT in the ME, it is an actual WT that we get here sans tint on the glass. If one gets a 2-dr WT in the ME, it is an actual Big Bend HOSS 1.0 with Black Diamond optional wheels sans tint on the glass.

Actually, it's an OBX Lux 2.7 advanced 4x4 with tow package, black diamond steelies, badlands shocks/springs, rock rails, some factory skid plates, RC hidden winch mount/skid plate, sasquatch flares, and a HOSS 3.0 steering rack. I have a few other mods and a few more parts in the garage.

Other than that, pretty close.

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