Speaking of the KO3... does anyone know if there a C range version of the 315/70R17 coming? I only see a D and an F right now.
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What suspension and tires are you getting?I have the OEM 33" C-load tires, and tomorrow they get switched for E-load 35s (and a suspension upgrade). They need to hold up in the desert when I go there.
Maybe XL=C???Problem is nobody makes a C load tire any longer. The factory tires on my Base are finally almost dead. Going to go up a size to 265/75R16. Let's check Discount:
SL - 50
XL - 2
C - 1
D - 4
E - 88
I'm team C-load. If I have to go to D because I absolutely love a tire and can't get it in C, I may allow for that. I run two sets of tires, though, so I would only get D-load tires as my off-road tires because there are plenty of street tire options in C.Hey everyone, quick question/hot take for the off-road crowd:
Are you team C-load or team E-load?
MT Baja Boss and Eibach Pro-Truck 2.0What suspension and tires are you getting?
XL is... B/C or so. I'll be ordering XL Falcons once summer is over.Maybe XL=C???
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B=4 ply (SL?)
C=6 ply (XL?)
D=8 ply
E=10 ply
Is this the kind of terrain that you think C load is too fragile for, or are you thinking more rugged than this?D load for me is the “sweet” spot…C is too fragile & E is too stiff
Double check but I suspect XL will have a lesser tread depth.XL is... B/C or so. I'll be ordering XL Falcons once summer is over.
Is this the kind of terrain that you think C load is too fragile for, or are you thinking more rugged than this?
I've been happy with my KO2s. They handle Utah's sharp rocks well. But you can tell that our Bronco goes off-road just looking at the tires. The sharp rocks take their toll on any load or brand of tire. The Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T and KO3s are on my short list for my next off-road tire. The only downside is the MTs are E. The KO3s are D, I believe. My KO2s are a nice, compliant C. Outside of Moab, I usually only air down to the low-to-mid 20s. In Moab, around 19. Plenty of flex and compliance at those pressures.E-load here. I'm relatively light and don't tow. But I spend a lot of time in the desert and around old mining infrastructure. I've never ran E rated tires before the bronco, but I wasn't around quite as many sharp rocks as before. I'm not sure if I regret it or not, but I got tired of flats and went heavier.
I shredded the OEM goodyears by ~20k miles. I had multiple punctures that were patchable (lots of old railroad spikes/etc here), but then had a giant sidewall slice out in the middle of nowhere in the Swell. It was on some semi-sharp limestone, but nothing too crazy, and I didn't take that bad of a line. I really did not expect a sidewall gash on that trail, and decided the tires were way too much of a problem. Even though they were still new, I had one completely done for and 3 others with plugs (2 of those with multiple).
I decided it wasn't worth sticking with something that light and went to Mickey Thompson ATs with an E load rating.
I've actually even torn up one of those, though. It was my fault, but strong sidewalls don't always protect you from sidewall gashes. Being stupid (i.e. upgrading suspension and wanting to push it a bit) will tear them up just like anything else.
I ran too low tire pressure (~17psi) + was going too fast (~45mph) around a corner where I could see nothing was coming but couldn't see the big sharp piece of basalt along the side of the road. Pinched the sidewall against the rim and left a huge gash in the beauty ring. Thankfully didn't damage the rim itself. Expensive lesson, but the other 4 tires were still new enough that there was no wear difference with adding a brand new one in the rotation.
At any rate, I like the Mickey Thompsons lot. They are stiffer. I air down lower than I did before. I took a pretty significant (1-2 mpg) fuel efficiency hit because they're a lot heavier. I've been tempted to get lighter method bead grip wheels to mitigate both of those a bit. Traction-wise, the tires are fantastic, though, and they don't throw rocks like the OEM GYs did. I have been impressed with them.
Would I have been better off with C-load tires? Yeah, maybe. But other than the one me-being-dumb issue, I haven't had anything puncture the tires since (knock on fake wood). I like to explore old mines, so I drive on trails with a lot of weird metal bits around. The peace of mind has been worth it i.m.o.
Is this the kind of terrain that you think C load is too fragile for, or are you thinking more rugged than this?