PPE Transmision Pan installed

[Breptar]

@Breptar
Also the pan bolts are W500215-S442

thank you for both pieces of information!

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[CarbonSteel]

I am doing the deep/high capacity trans pan too. You’re saying you can’t use the stud bolts with the deep pan? If so, do you happen to have a part number for the pan bolts? I’m assuming it’ll look better too since all the bolts will be the same.

The rear studs hit the pan before the flange on my deep pan. Others have noted it not being an issue. On the Bronco, the studs serve no purpose and having the switch sockets and torque values during the torque sequence is a PITA (thanks Ford).

My pan leaked because the studs were not against the flange--I found it easier to simply replace the studs with bolts making everything uniform including the torque values.

 

[Ducati1098]

On the Bronco, the studs serve no purpose and having the switch sockets and torque values during the torque sequence is a PITA (thanks Ford).

They do serve a purpose, just not for customers.
They're used for transmission removal and also for heatshields on models equipped with them.

 

[CarbonSteel]

They do serve a purpose, just not for customers.
They're used for transmission removal and also for heatshields on models equipped with them.

Well...I would not want to put the weight of the transmission on the studs that are on a plastic pan. I get that is likely not the only attachment point, but still.

Which Bronco model has a heat shield attached to the studs? I seen it on the F-150, but my heat shield attaches via plastic Christmas tree fasteners to the side of the pan flange.

 

[Ducati1098]

Well...I would not want to put the weight of the transmission on the studs that are on a plastic pan. I get that is likely not the only attachment point, but still.

Which Bronco model has a heat shield attached to the studs? I seen it on the F-150, but my heat shield attaches via plastic Christmas tree fasteners to the side of the pan flange.

We support 10R140's the same way which are far heavier, it's perfectly fine. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't make the transmission adapter for it if it was an issue. It's literally just held up by the studs

F150, Navigator, Expedition, Aviator, Explorer, Mustang all have heatshields attached to the studs depending on year/engine. Some have it on one side, some have it on both sides, some have it on neither side. None of the Broncos do, but they're still there for the same reasons. All the 10 speeds get studs whether the shields are there or not.

 

[CarbonSteel]

We support 10R140's the same way which are far heavier, it's perfectly fine. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't make the transmission adapter for it if it was an issue. It's literally just held up by the studs

F150, Navigator, Expedition, Aviator, Explorer, Mustang all have heatshields attached to the studs depending on year/engine. Some have it on one side, some have it on both sides, some have it on neither side.

In a way it makes sense...you can only "crush" the plastic so much before it cracks and I guess that amount of weight is not there.

 

[LSW]

Just wanted to share in case anyone else is lazy like me and tries to use the Paper instructions that come with the PPE drain pain (as of 1/15/25 when I recieved mine): DO NOT TORQUE THE DRAIN PAN BOLTS TO 18-22 ft lbs as seems to be inidcated here. Yes, I should've had enough common sense to know this instruction was misleading/wrong due to the small size of the bolts, but no I did not catch it and stripped one of the 18 bolts. They should be 8-10 ft lbs.

I would only use the electronic instructions from the PPE website linked earlier in the thread which are phrased more sensibly and found here

Also I would recommend the Mityvac 7201 and not the 7400. 7201 is both an extractor and dispenser. 7400 is an extractor only and pretty weak. Unfortunately I could not find a Mitvyac 6400 on amazon for under $300 but it would probably be good too, as it would fit under the Bronco more easily than the 7201 or 7400 which are way too tall. As a result of their height, I would recommend you consider getting 8 ft or so of 10mm diameter tubing as I found the 1.5m/4.9 ft length it came with to be a little bit insufficient, if still manageable.

I did not bother to disconnect the wiring of the disconnecting stabilizer bar, instead I unbolted it and supported it with a jack stand, lowering it just enough so that the pan would clear the stabilizer bar not so low that there was any tension on the wiring harnesses.

Hope this helps, I never did any transmission work before and it took me about 5 hours to change all this out.

 

[Felix808]

@LSW , link appears broke as I get the following:

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[swamp2]

DO NOT TORQUE THE DRAIN PAN BOLTS TO 18-22 ft lbs as seems to be inidcated here. Yes, I should've had enough common sense to know this instruction was misleading/wrong due to the small size of the bolts, but no I did not catch it and stripped one of the 18 bolts. They should be 8-10 ft lbs.

Bummer. After having used a lot of Helicoils in the past to repair stripped threads, I recently used a Timesert and they are better. Very stout. Nice kits by the individual size with all needed tools are available on eBay. Good luck with the repair.

 

[MC1313]

When you upgraded to the PPE pan did you also replace the transmission filter at the same time? Also how many quarts did you have to replace ?

 

[kr_1315]

When you upgraded to the PPE pan did you also replace the transmission filter at the same time? Also how many quarts did you have to replace ?

I did replace the filter when I replaced the pan. I was able to reuse the gasket. I don't remember the amount, but I believe it was about 8 or 9 quarts. I measured what I removed, and refilled with the same quantity.

 

[MC1313]

I did replace the filter when I replaced the pan. I was able to reuse the gasket. I don't remember the amount, but I believe it was about 8 or 9 quarts. I measured what I removed, and refilled with the same quantity.

So I am installing myPPE pan drained fluid with a pump. But when looking at removing the pan I see that 2 (stud bolts) in the rear are partially blocked by the exhaust pipe. Is there a specific tool you used to remove them?

 

[Ducati1098]

So I am installing myPPE pan drained fluid with a pump. But when looking at removing the pan I see that 2 (stud bolts) in the rear are partially blocked by the exhaust pipe. Is there a specific tool you used to remove them?

Flex head wrench makes short work of them

 

[LSW]

So I am installing myPPE pan drained fluid with a pump. But when looking at removing the pan I see that 2 (stud bolts) in the rear are partially blocked by the exhaust pipe. Is there a specific tool you used to remove them?

I was able to get in there with some combination of a 1/4" ratchet and socket head screwdriver, no big deal while everything is cold. With the stud bolts I had to use the longer depth sockets from my set otherwise the long bolt would prevent contact between the nut and socket. Tightening them up to spec with the 18" long 3/8" torque wrench was annoying but still doable one or two ratchet clicks at at time. Flex head like mentioned would work a lot better!

 

[Breptar]

@Ducati1098 do you happen to know the part number for the transmission fluid fill plug?

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