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At least it gives you an idea.... To be honest I did not go to coil overs for the lift. I went with the coil overs for the ride. And the ride is dramatically improved over the HOSS 2... I have the Coil overs set to the lowest lift possible.
I am planning on getting the 74 Weld Portals in April next year. I currently have the ICON Stage 8 suspension kit. Can you explain how you got an extra 2" of lift if your CO are set to the lowest life i.e. does that mean you took off all the preload or just ran the CO from the manufactured shipped setting?
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I am planning on getting the 74 Weld Portals in April next year. I currently have the ICON Stage 8 suspension kit. Can you explain how you got an extra 2" of lift if your CO are set to the lowest life i.e. does that mean you took off all the preload or just ran the CO from the manufactured shipped setting?
I had Accutune disassemble and revalve my CO's based on my weight. the setting for the front coil has NO preload... Can not lower them at all. they provide a little over 2 inches of lift because of the length of spring. Accutune did preload the rears about 1.5 to 2 inch... I left them as Accutune set them. This has given me a relatively level profile.

Every coil over manufacturer runs a different set of springs. The springs are going to give you the lift. I do not know what the Icon springs provide without any preload.
 

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I would like to convert to the Pro-X 4 link, I do not have a factory sway bar, I don't really see any options (Rock Jock with a potential future). From what I am understanding than the Bronco with this mod would be more susceptible to roll overs? So how does a rear sway bar address the low roll center? Does it fully correct it?
The difference in height between the roll center and the CG is what causes body "roll" when lateral forces are present such as in turning or in off-camber situations. As this distance increases it will increase susceptibility to rollover. Adding a rear anti-sway bar will increase resistance to this body roll and help offset the increase in the distance between CG and the roll center. That is the theory. The guys that have done the modification can chime in to as how much it overcomes the change.
 

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The difference in height between the roll center and the CG is what causes body "roll" when lateral forces are present such as in turning or in off-camber situations. As this distance increases it will increase susceptibility to rollover. Adding a rear anti-sway bar will increase resistance to this body roll and help offset the increase in the distance between CG and the roll center. That is the theory. The guys that have done the modification can chime in to as how much it overcomes the change.
I have lifted a number of vehicles. This bronco has considerably less body roll than any of the others even though I have lifted it further. I have about 6 inches of lift total (only two inches of suspension). My truck has 5 inches of lift (all suspension). The truck has considerably more body roll and is considerably less stable when cornering at speed.

I only have the sway bar on the front of my 2 door Bronco. My GMC Canyon has sway bars on front and rear.
 

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4" from portals and 2" from coil overs and running on 40s...

this is next to a raptor on 37s.

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I think it is plenty... and to be honest I would not want to go any higher.... I am okay off camber but keep going up and I would start having issues.
Thank you for the comparison pic. Would like to see more photos of your bronco, two door score.
 

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Don’t want to spark a portal comparison debate here, but am interested in your thoughts about how much lift you got. What does 74Weld give you? 3-4”, I can’t remember. The 38’s give you 1.5-2”. But what I’m asking is you feel this is plenty or good enough as opposed to the 5+” the other guy gives. Did you install the portals yourself? I wouldn’t think it’s too hard is it.
There are many things to consider beyond how much lift you’re able to achieve. Besides getting stronger rear axle shafts, upgraded rear brakes, full float conversion, and one ton bearings, you’ll also be getting an improved steering knuckle. Integrating the knuckle into the portal makes it stronger and the whole package more compact. As far as lift, one of the downfalls to portals is the leverage they apply. The longer the lever, the more drastic the fatigue. And it seems like people are overlooking the double shear UCA kits when making these upgrades. (Ford recognized the issue and decided the Braptor needed double shear, but wanted to save the $12/vehicle on the rest of the product line) I guess it’s not a problem until it’s a problem, but then you REALLY have a problem. The portals add a lot of weight and stress, it just seems prudent to try to get as much strength as possible to accommodate them. (Like not using the factory steering knuckle)
 

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There are many things to consider beyond how much lift you’re able to achieve. Besides getting stronger rear axle shafts, upgraded rear brakes, full float conversion, and one ton bearings, you’ll also be getting an improved steering knuckle. Integrating the knuckle into the portal makes it stronger and the whole package more compact. As far as lift, one of the downfalls to portals is the leverage they apply. The longer the lever, the more drastic the fatigue. And it seems like people are overlooking the double shear UCA kits when making these upgrades. (Ford recognized the issue and decided the Braptor needed double shear, but wanted to save the $12/vehicle on the rest of the product line) I guess it’s not a problem until it’s a problem, but then you REALLY have a problem. The portals add a lot of weight and stress, it just seems prudent to try to get as much strength as possible to accommodate them. (Like not using the factory steering knuckle)
Excellent points, thank you.
 

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There are many things to consider beyond how much lift you’re able to achieve. Besides getting stronger rear axle shafts, upgraded rear brakes, full float conversion, and one ton bearings, you’ll also be getting an improved steering knuckle. Integrating the knuckle into the portal makes it stronger and the whole package more compact. As far as lift, one of the downfalls to portals is the leverage they apply. The longer the lever, the more drastic the fatigue. And it seems like people are overlooking the double shear UCA kits when making these upgrades. (Ford recognized the issue and decided the Braptor needed double shear, but wanted to save the $12/vehicle on the rest of the product line) I guess it’s not a problem until it’s a problem, but then you REALLY have a problem. The portals add a lot of weight and stress, it just seems prudent to try to get as much strength as possible to accommodate them. (Like not using the factory steering knuckle)

Well put. Could not agree more about the double shear UCA mounts. :wink:

https://solomotorsports.com/shop/parts/ford-parts/suspension/2021-ford-bronco-uca-double-shear-kit/
 

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So good, I added them to the Ranger Raptor with some slight mods to the factory live valve sensors bracket. Already tested them out on some pretty hard stuff at Texas Raptor Run and the truck held alignment the whole way through. Bronco is still holding alignment according to the new owner. One of the best additions anyone can do if they’re going to be using these Broncos off-road.
 

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So good, I added them to the Ranger Raptor with some slight mods to the factory live valve sensors bracket. Already tested them out on some pretty hard stuff at Texas Raptor Run and the truck held alignment the whole way through. Bronco is still holding alignment according to the new owner. One of the best additions anyone can do if they’re going to be using these Broncos off-road.
Hell yeah! That Ranger is rad, man.

I would think the double shear mounts to be absolutely necessary if you’re going to be running portals.
 
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Hell yeah! That Ranger is rad, man.

I would think the double shear mounts to be absolutely necessary if you’re going to be running portals.
Absolutely necessary even if just running larger tires. I bent 2 upper bolts before the portals😬
 

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Absolutely necessary even if just running larger tires. I bent 2 upper bolts before the portals😬
Whoa!

Could be beneficial to the forum to start a new thread on that. Feels like it only gets discussed in replies 😂
 
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Whoa!

Could be beneficial to the forum to start a new thread on that. Feels like it only gets discussed in replies 😂
I could make a new post with a link to the Raptor video we made, and give a time stamp. I discuss it a little in that video. It’s definitely an issue for those of us using the platform.
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