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You cant tune via Bluetooth, however you can change between 4 saved tune presets on the fly through the factory headunit "speed compensated volume" setting. We have repurposed this for tune preset switching. The Bronco specific kit comes with these presets already setup for +3db increments of sub and bass. Of course, these tunes are fully adjustable through our PC tool.

Also keep in mind, the bass mid treble controls are actually just CAN messages that tell our DSP to apply filtering and these work as factory would. You are not going to introduce distortion by using these.
Thank you for that info on the repurpose of the speed sensitive setting. That is awesome. I plan to leave an access cable anyway but that feature gives me fingertip changes. I never used all 10 presets with the Sony products. We set up maybe 6 different presets and I only used 2 or 3. Most of the time set it and simply adjust sub level to taylor it.

Looking forward to your DSP/Amp once I have the funds.
 

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Thank you for that info on the repurpose of the speed sensitive setting. That is awesome. I plan to leave an access cable anyway but that feature gives me fingertip changes. I never used all 10 presets with the Sony products. We set up maybe 6 different presets and I only used 2 or 3. Most of the time set it and simply adjust sub level to taylor it.

Looking forward to your DSP/Amp once I have the funds.
I just went thru this same journey and with the help of Fraser ended with my final phase which was to simply add in the mobridge a2b/amp/dsp. Its simply the easiest way to not have to compromise in any aspect - whether that be driving a 12" tailgate sub, to components up front, to adding 6.5 pods in the rear...the amp can handle it all. I did this all in phases hoping that each step would add enough - started with just upgrading all the 4" speakers and kick panel - then a kicker key 500.1 and added a sub - then added 6.5 pods in the rear....I was not a believer in the beginning, but Fraser has sent me so many different files to help jump start me on getting the DSP how I want it to be (outside of doing my own config). Its so much more than just an equalizer as it can set low/high/band passes at each individual speaker, gains at the speaker level, delays at the speaker level. Now with a "bronco" kit that provides you with the the power from the battery as well as getting to the rear/center speakers, its really turned into a plug and play kit for the most part!! Its also so easy to leave the USB hanging out of the rear panel and just plugging into a laptop when you want to make changes, or when Fraser sends me another great config file! It was also super rewarding to do it all myself as I learned a ton about the system and how to take all the panels apart!!!

Good luck!
 
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I just went thru this same journey and with the help of Fraser ended with my final phase which was to simply add in the mobridge a2b/amp/dsp. Its simply the easiest way to not have to compromise in any aspect - whether that be driving a 12" tailgate sub, to components up front, to adding 6.5 pods in the rear...the amp can handle it all. I did this all in phases hoping that each step would add enough - started with just upgrading all the 4" speakers and kick panel - then a kicker key 500.1 and added a sub - then added 6.5 pods in the rear....I was not a believer in the beginning, but Fraser has sent me so many different files to help jump start me on getting the DSP how I want it to be (outside of doing my own config). Its so much more than just an equalizer as it can set low/high/band passes at each individual speaker, gains at the speaker level, delays at the speaker level. Now with a "bronco" kit that provides you with the the power from the battery as well as getting to the rear/center speakers, its really turned into a plug and play kit for the most part!! Its also so easy to leave the USB hanging out of the rear panel and just plugging into a laptop when you want to make changes, or when Fraser sends me another great config file! It was also super rewarding to do it all myself as I learned a ton about the system and how to take all the panels apart!!!

Good luck!
Question: So you went the DSP route - what did you do with your kicker key amp? Is that still part of the system or does the mobridge plugnplay bronco kit replace that?
 

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I took it out of the mix and run all channels off the mobridge. I’ll have that amp, a large Acoustic research amp, a PAC a2b converter, and about 3 sets of 4” coax focal, hertz, JL audio speakers as well. But the Mobridge is all you need if you go down that route!
 

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I took it out of the mix and run all channels off the mobridge. I’ll have that amp, a large Acoustic research amp, a PAC a2b converter, and about 3 sets of 4” coax focal, hertz, JL audio speakers as well. But the Mobridge is all you need if you go down that route!
Yeah, just not sure I'm ready to blow $2k, then another $600-$800 to install it at a pro shop.

If you're ever interested in letting go of that 500 key amp, lemme know!
 

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Yeah, just not sure I'm ready to blow $2k, then another $600-$800 to install it at a pro shop.

If you're ever interested in letting go of that 500 key amp, lemme know!
Its definitely not a cheap upgrade that is for sure, so it really depends on your audio goals of course.
Keep in mind the kit is more aimed at DIY install. Everything is plug and play and it comes pre tuned. It would only be an few extra steps to install over something like the key amp.
 
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Its definitely not a cheap upgrade that is for sure, so it really depends on your audio goals of course.
Keep in mind the kit is more aimed at DIY install. Everything is plug and play and it comes pre tuned. It would only be an few extra steps to install over something like the key amp.

I dunno man...if an idiot can screw it up - as God as my witness - I am that idiot.

I'm tempted if you have idiot-proofed this install for me....in my day job I'm constantly preaching the tenet of "do it right the first time and you won't have to do it wrong 2-3-4x"..... so I'm leaning in on this!
 

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I dunno man...if an idiot can screw it up - as God as my witness - I am that idiot.

I'm tempted if you have idiot-proofed this install for me....in my day job I'm constantly preaching the tenet of "do it right the first time and you won't have to do it wrong 2-3-4x"..... so I'm leaning in on this!
I took a look at the instructions and it seems pretty straightforward. Way easier and cleaner than splicing wires. I’ll probably go this route when the budget allows.

https://mobridge.us/wp-content/uploads/documents/K2/K2_A2B_amplifier_bronco_install_guide.pdf
 

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Its definitely not a cheap upgrade that is for sure, so it really depends on your audio goals of course.
Keep in mind the kit is more aimed at DIY install. Everything is plug and play and it comes pre tuned. It would only be an few extra steps to install over something like the key amp.

Question: I have a kicker comp R 8" sub powered via a kicker Key 500.1. What is my next logical step? Do I get the DSP? Or would this be a redundant step? I have already cut wires for the Key and definitely lost the actual plug, so I'd like to retain the Key. Is there a DSP that you offer that would allow me to retain it?
 

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Its definitely not a cheap upgrade that is for sure, so it really depends on your audio goals of course.
Keep in mind the kit is more aimed at DIY install. Everything is plug and play and it comes pre tuned. It would only be an few extra steps to install over something like the key amp.
what speakers do you recommend to match your complete kit?
 

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I took a look at the instructions and it seems pretty straightforward. Way easier and cleaner than splicing wires. I’ll probably go this route when the budget allows.

https://mobridge.us/wp-content/uploads/documents/K2/K2_A2B_amplifier_bronco_install_guide.pdf
If anyone has put in a Kick Key for a sub, to Fraser's point, you are 90% of the way there for a full mobridge install. Basically, you need a power wire from the battery to the rear passenger side, you unplug the 3 connections to the OEM B&O amp, and those plug into the Mobridge harness (in the pic on the left its the grey plug (connect to the speakers), blue (the A2B input signal), and a black up near the top partially behind the board (the OEM power/ground wires), you add a ground cable, and the only additional thing is you bring a set of wires from the headunit down the passenger side (do the amp power down the drivers side) those drive the rear pods and the center channel. I also took out the oem sub enclosure (which the oem amp is attached to) and use an MTI amp rack that fits perfectly in the spot. You can see from my pic that I'm not a pro either at installing this stuff (a pro would probably laugh at how mine looks!!) but it is straight forward!! And I did mine without the mobridge premade kit - which now it should make it even easier!!!

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Question: I have a kicker comp R 8" sub powered via a kicker Key 500.1. What is my next logical step? Do I get the DSP? Or would this be a redundant step? I have already cut wires for the Key and definitely lost the actual plug, so I'd like to retain the Key. Is there a DSP that you offer that would allow me to retain it?
I had a Kicker Key 500.1 prior to the Mobridge (amp/dsp) and I just took it out as the 2 channels to run the sub on the mobridge is powerful enough to drive my 12" stinger tailgate sub and just as configurable with crossover point and gain. I assume when you installed the key amp to the sub, you just cut the oem harness off and you used that as the high level inputs into the amp. So just solder those wires (or however you feel comfortable connecting wires) to the speaker wire you have going to the sub (almost like you are physically taking the amp out between the input and output of the speaker wires. When you plug in the mobridge harness, it will give you the signal to the sub thru the oem wire which then you'll have connected to your sub. Hopefully this makes sense, but I was in the same place prior to upgrading....
 

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Question: I have a kicker comp R 8" sub powered via a kicker Key 500.1. What is my next logical step? Do I get the DSP? Or would this be a redundant step? I have already cut wires for the Key and definitely lost the actual plug, so I'd like to retain the Key. Is there a DSP that you offer that would allow me to retain it?
Next step if you wanted to keep the key amp would be to use our DA-G2 Pro A2B pre-amp/dsp. This will allow you to remove the factory amplifier and get a clean signal via RCA or TOSLINK. I would then feed the RCA outputs of it into just a regular compact 6 channel amp as well as your kicker key amp. So the 6 channel amp would drive your dash speakers kick panel speakers and rear pods and the kicker key would drive the sub. Our Pro unit includes the same DSP core as our amplifier, so you can still use our Bronco tune! It will handle all your crossovers, time alignment, ect.

This would probably be the cheapest way to get a really good sounding system given you already have a sub amp.

Hope this helps!
 

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what speakers do you recommend to match your complete kit?
This really depends on your budget.
Morel are my favourite speakers and are what I personally run, they make our stuff look cheap though.
But if you wanted the best mid tier sounding speaker and something we have already got a tune for then id go with the Hertz range. CX100 in the dash/pods and MP in the kick panels. This is what we used in our test Bronco
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