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Mvilla: when did you originally buy Ride Shocks and when did you revalve ? I bought mine about a month ago and supposedly it had softer valving already vs Ride Shocks from earlier.
I bought them when they first came out, almost a year ago. Took me a while to get around to doing the revalve
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Nice I’d like to do the Rubicon. I wanna plan a late fall trip when it’s not so hot and not a lot of people.
 

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Ahh - apparently buying mine a month ago already had a softer value from the original run
 

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Nice I’d like to do the Rubicon. I wanna plan a late fall trip when it’s not so hot and not a lot of people.
October is ideal. November run I did once was perfect, not a single person on the trail but its hit and miss with snow so if youre planning on coming from a distance then October is safer. Otherwise we went on a Monday in early June and we saw 3 people total for the whole day.

@AccuTune Offroad we did Wentworth Springs loop this day. Went in Loon and came out Wentworth Campground. Its a lesser traveled route on the original trail route.
 

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I have a few questions for AccuTune, so why do these shocks only come with the UCAs, why not the full suspension lift kit like the Icon stage 7 or 8 (I dont see lower control arms, lower links, track bar, or tie rods as an option)?

Do you recommend other aftermarket suspension lift kit parts that may work best with your shocks and UCAs?

What is the front and rear wheel travel for these when using 37s?

Is it possible to run 38s with these, if so, how?

I plan on going with 37s that are 13.50 wide and weigh @ 86lbs (new Toyo Open Country RT Pros in 37x13.50r17), is the 13.50 tire width and 86lb tire weight a problem in any way for these shocks?

What wheel offset is recommended with your shocks especially if running 37s that are 13.50 wide? I heard wheel travel can def be impacted with wheel offset being run and tire width used. I may get 17x9 or 18x9 wheels with 0mm offset.

Will these work well with 74weld gen 2 portals?

Do these shocks have internal bump stops like the 3.3 Falcons or do you have to buy this seperately?

Most of these questions have probably already been answered but I didnt have time to read all the posts. I do level 7 type offroading trails at max, mostly on the east coast Virginia type trails. No extreme crazy obstacles but nothing boring either, and a little bit of everything, mud, rock, and some level 7 trails like Potts Mountain which is our version of a tough trail here in Virginia. I dont do fast offroading, usually between 0-15 mph type offroading. I have a red Bronco so these shocks could match up well in the looks department. I have been looking at the Icon lift as well as the full $5400 Readylift with 3.3 Falcon Shocks that allow you to run 38s. I am also a newbie so if I said something stupid please disregard. I think I gave enough info lol.

Thanks in advance.
 
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I have a few questions for AccuTune, so why do these shocks only come with the UCAs, why not the full suspension lift kit like the Icon stage 7 or 8 (I dont see lower control arms, lower links, track bar, or tie rods as an option)?

Do you recommend other aftermarket suspension lift kit parts that may work best with your shocks and UCAs?

What is the front and rear wheel travel for these when using 37s?

Is it possible to run 38s with these, if so, how?

I plan on going with 37s that are 13.50 wide and weigh @ 86lbs (new Toyo Open Country RT Pros in 37x13.50r17), is the 13.50 tire width and 86lb tire weight a problem in any way for these shocks?

What wheel offset is recommended with your shocks especially if running 37s that are 13.50 wide? I heard wheel travel can def be impacted with wheel offset being run and tire width used. I may get 17x9 or 18x9 wheels with 0mm offset.

Will these work well with 74weld gen 2 portals?

Do these shocks have internal bump stops like the 3.3 Falcons or do you have to buy this seperately?

Most of these questions have probably already been answered but I didnt have time to read all the posts. I do level 7 type offroading trails at max, mostly on the east coast Virginia type trails. No extreme crazy obstacles but nothing boring either, and a little bit of everything, mud, rock, and some level 7 trails like Potts Mountain which is our version of a tough trail here in Virginia. I dont do fast offroading, usually between 0-15 mph type offroading. I have a red Bronco so these shocks could match up well in the looks department. I have been looking at the Icon lift as well as the full $5400 Readylift with 3.3 Falcon Shocks that allow you to run 38s. I am also a newbie so if I said something stupid please disregard. I think I gave enough info lol.

Thanks in advance.
We just put together a Bronco Suspension Buyers Guide for parts we sell that may be worth taking a look at.

We have complete Bronco suspension kits available here.

Raised rear track bar would be a good recommendation in addition to front UCA. Rear upper and lower arms are not critical, but do allow for more adjustability for pinion angle.

Comparing wheel travel and shock travel to other brands, you will need to be sure they are all measuring the same way. Ride Shock travel numbers: Front: 5.59" Rear: 9.39"

Tire size wont be dictated by lift height. To fit at least 37" tires, we would recommend running our UCA along with a cab mount relocation kit up front like this one.

I can't confirm fitment for every tire/wheel combination, but I can let you know our current tire/wheel package to compare: 37/12.50/17, BFG All-Terrain KO2, 17X8.5 6X139.7 -8, Titan 7 T-AK1 Forged Aluminum Wheels

Portals should work fine.

Ride Shocks have a shaft bumper on the shocks (same as Fox & King).

Feel free to send us a direct message or email and we can dive in deeper to all the question you have about your specific build. Happy to help narrow down options for you.
 

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We just put together a Bronco Suspension Buyers Guide for parts we sell that may be worth taking a look at.

We have complete Bronco suspension kits available here.

Raised rear track bar would be a good recommendation in addition to front UCA. Rear upper and lower arms are not critical, but do allow for more adjustability for pinion angle.

Comparing wheel travel and shock travel to other brands, you will need to be sure they are all measuring the same way. Ride Shock travel numbers: Front: 5.59" Rear: 9.39"

Tire size wont be dictated by lift height. To fit at least 37" tires, we would recommend running our UCA along with a cab mount relocation kit up front like this one.

I can't confirm fitment for every tire/wheel combination, but I can let you know our current tire/wheel package to compare: 37/12.50/17, BFG All-Terrain KO2, 17X8.5 6X139.7 -8, Titan 7 T-AK1 Forged Aluminum Wheels

Portals should work fine.

Ride Shocks have a shaft bumper on the shocks (same as Fox & King).

Feel free to send us a direct message or email and we can dive in deeper to all the question you have about your specific build. Happy to help narrow down options for you.
 

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Thanks for providing all the info, I went to your site and saw the full kits, looks amazing and it allows you to get other manufacturers to mix and match, good job on that. I will have to do a bit more research since I want to do 13.50 width not sure how it will be impacted for travel on that width and what offset wheel I need to get. I think your site specifies 37s, I didn't see anything about width so I am assuming 12.50 and 13.50 are both good to go as long as it is not more than a 37 tall tire.

I was a bit surprised about wheel travel as I saw Icon is 11.5 front and 14 rear but that's using 35s, so I am assuming with 37s it is 9.5 and 12 but you did say it depends on how they measure so I am a little confused on this. I see your site mentions some issues that can occur at that full travel which is why you may have limited it, can you please elaborate on this. Do you guys have any customer experience who ran your shocks with 13.50 width or maybe even the full 38x13.50s? Just an FYI, I do not have a Raptor but a Badlands Sasquatch, need to change the profile logo.
 
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Thanks for providing all the info, I went to your site and saw the full kits, looks amazing and it allows you to get other manufacturers to mix and match, good job on that. I will have to do a bit more research since I want to do 13.50 width not sure how it will be impacted for travel on that width and what offset wheel I need to get. I think your site specifies 37s, I didn't see anything about width so I am assuming 12.50 and 13.50 are both good to go as long as it is not more than a 37 tall tire.

I was a bit surprised about wheel travel as I saw Icon is 11.5 front and 14 rear but that's using 35s, so I am assuming with 37s it is 9.5 and 12 but you did say it depends on how they measure so I am a little confused on this. I see your site mentions some issues that can occur at that full travel which is why you may have limited it, can you please elaborate on this. Do you guys have any customer experience who ran your shocks with 13.50 width or maybe even the full 38x13.50s? Just an FYI, I do not have a Raptor but a Badlands Sasquatch, need to change the profile logo.
Tire size wont affect shock travel, but it will affect your tires hitting fenders and other things. Ride Shocks were designed to have a longer compressed length to keep 37s out of the fenders. Shorter compressed lengths will be much worse.

The numbers I provided were shock travel. Most manufactures will provide those numbers but not wheel travel numbers. Where did you get those numbers from? Wheel travel would need to be the exact same motion ratio formula. If you are slightly off on the measurements, it can change the wheel travel numbers a lot. Our measurements for Ride Shocks front wheel travel: 9.63" rear wheel travel: 12.35"

Too much shock travel up front, will cause the CV axles to bind which can lead to premature wear. King Coilovers for example have slightly too much droop travel, so we recommend having spacers installed when we do the free revalve. This limits the travel by .20" to get a more reasonable extended length. This is our findings when we were testing and tuning our Bronco with Kings, Fox and Ride Shocks. Others may have different experiences. We lean towards the safe side and focus on performance.

Unfortunately I don't have a way to look up customers by tire size. There may be other threads on here that discuss tire fitment, but again this will have more to do with trimming fenders, cab mounts etc.
 

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Tire size wont affect shock travel, but it will affect your tires hitting fenders and other things. Ride Shocks were designed to have a longer compressed length to keep 37s out of the fenders. Shorter compressed lengths will be much worse.

The numbers I provided were shock travel. Most manufactures will provide those numbers but not wheel travel numbers. Where did you get those numbers from? Wheel travel would need to be the exact same motion ratio formula. If you are slightly off on the measurements, it can change the wheel travel numbers a lot. Our measurements for Ride Shocks front wheel travel: 9.63" rear wheel travel: 12.35"

Too much shock travel up front, will cause the CV axles to bind which can lead to premature wear. King Coilovers for example have slightly too much droop travel, so we recommend having spacers installed when we do the free revalve. This limits the travel by .20" to get a more reasonable extended length. This is our findings when we were testing and tuning our Bronco with Kings, Fox and Ride Shocks. Others may have different experiences. We lean towards the safe side and focus on performance.

Unfortunately I don't have a way to look up customers by tire size. There may be other threads on here that discuss tire fitment, but again this will have more to do with trimming fenders, cab mounts etc.
The 11.5 front and 14 rear wheel travel was quoted on the Icon website for the Ford Bronco for 35 inch tires. I assumed it would just be 2 inches less for 37 inch tires at 9.5 front and 12 rear. Below I provided a a link

https://iconvehicledynamics.com/acc...ch-2-3-lift-stage-8-suspension-system-billet/
 

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Tire size wont affect shock travel, but it will affect your tires hitting fenders and other things. Ride Shocks were designed to have a longer compressed length to keep 37s out of the fenders. Shorter compressed lengths will be much worse.

The numbers I provided were shock travel. Most manufactures will provide those numbers but not wheel travel numbers. Where did you get those numbers from? Wheel travel would need to be the exact same motion ratio formula. If you are slightly off on the measurements, it can change the wheel travel numbers a lot. Our measurements for Ride Shocks front wheel travel: 9.63" rear wheel travel: 12.35"

Too much shock travel up front, will cause the CV axles to bind which can lead to premature wear. King Coilovers for example have slightly too much droop travel, so we recommend having spacers installed when we do the free revalve. This limits the travel by .20" to get a more reasonable extended length. This is our findings when we were testing and tuning our Bronco with Kings, Fox and Ride Shocks. Others may have different experiences. We lean towards the safe side and focus on performance.

Unfortunately I don't have a way to look up customers by tire size. There may be other threads on here that discuss tire fitment, but again this will have more to do with trimming fenders, cab mounts etc.
I highly.... Let me repeat, HIGHLY recommend mike's advice here. He has not steered me wrong yet! I am very very happy with the work they have done for me. I was skeptical and questioned everything. They were right about everything they suggested. I always list the work they did for me as the BEST BANG for my buck of any modifications I have done. I have a lot of mods including portals..... But These guys know what they are doing and if they do not know they tell you so.... SO now if they tell me something I take it to heart!
 

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I highly.... Let me repeat, HIGHLY recommend mike's advice here. He has not steered me wrong yet! I am very very happy with the work they have done for me. I was skeptical and questioned everything. They were right about everything they suggested. I always list the work they did for me as the BEST BANG for my buck of any modifications I have done. I have a lot of mods including portals..... But These guys know what they are doing and if they do not know they tell you so.... SO now if they tell me something I take it to heart!
I hear you, I def don't know what I'm talking about lol So need help. I like the look of the 13.50s and want them bad but if it can't be done with 13.50 I will do 12.50, just need to know the limits. I was going to get that JKS clearance kit too.
 

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Stay away from worrying about wheel travel numbers. As long as the LCA is oem then shock travel becomes the most basic metric. All shocks mounted on oem LCA produce identical wheel travel for the same shock displacement. Also wheel travel requires knowledge of LCA motion ratio (motion amplification from LCA geometry). A good estimate is 1.6 for oem LCA but it is actually non-linear and not that simple.

The two most basic numbers to consider are shock extended and compressed lengths. The difference between these numbers is the shock travel. There is a maximum extended length that works best for the oem LCA, 24.3”. For greater lengths the LCA angles get too large (CV angles become large).

The compressed length will dictate the amount of tire/fender interference that occurs. Many of the more expensive coilovers are designed with compressed lengths to keep 37s out of the fenders at full stuff. Just depends how conservative you want to be.

Some numbers. I am not sure they all use the same reference points but an example.

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Stay away from worrying about wheel travel numbers. As long as the LCA is oem then shock travel becomes the most basic metric. All shocks mounted on oem LCA produce identical wheel travel. Also wheel travel requires knowledge of LCA motion ratio (motion amplification from LCA geometry). A good estimate is 1.6 for oem LCA but it is actually non-linear and not that simple.

The two most basic numbers to consider are shock extended and compressed lengths. The difference between these numbers is the shock travel. There is a maximum extended length that works best for the oem LCA, 24.3”. For greater lengths the LCA angles get too large (CV angles become large).

The compressed length will dictate the amount of tire/fender interference that occurs. Many of the more expensive coilovers are designed with compressed lengths to keep 37s out of the fenders at full stuff. Just depends how conservative you want to be.

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Oh wow very nice thank you for sharing. Do you have these numbers for the Ride Shocks?
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