I'm a Ford guy, but...

[SierraBronco]

SierraBronco I just don't think you understand the concept of the true Bronco enthusiast and being a way of life. It isn't simply a Brand you go change like your dirty underwear.
In a way I sorta feel sad that you don't understand this. Always feeling grass is greener elsewhere will only leave you longing for happiness. Using your concept why have a favorite sports team, racing team, or beverage? You're just a number to them....
Lighten up and enjoy the ride!!! Ford Bronco Freedom!

Why not tag me?

I’m sure the marketing department is thrilled to hear of their success of owning you. Here’s something that might blow your mind-your sportsball team isn’t loyal to you. Neither is your beverage. You are revenue to them. I do things that I enjoy for me; and I’m loyal to those I care about. You are potentially missing out on things you might actually enjoy more due to your misdirected loyalty.

I’m glad you like your bronco. I like mine too! But whether my next recreational vehicle is from the same manufacturer-only time will tell. There might be something I enjoy far more by then. Won’t know until I drive it.

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[Aonarch]

Buying a 21 was a risk I wasn’t prepared to take , my 23 has been flawless , a long wait but odds of a better built fresh design vehicle having issues fixed after 2 years is quite high , although time will tell

I did the same thing. I had a '21 ordered but it kept getting delayed and delayed. I finally just bought mine off the lot and didn't look back.

 

[MichaelCar001]

This is getting old.

21' Badsquatch with only 10k miles.

I literally just got my Bronco back after a complete rear axle replacement. It took 1 year and 2 dealers to finally get the leak/repair/replacement sorted out.
(I've posted in other threads about the plug welds and other leaks)

Upon picking up the Bronco for the rear axle, the dealer informs me of a new oil pan leak, and they ordered the parts.
Sure as shit, it's leaking about a dime size after driving, and is all over the skid plates.

Prior to that at the first dealer, they discovered a rear t-case seal leak and replaced that. That was 7 weeks in shop for that fiasco.

The reliability of this particular rig has really come to be questioned, I'm thinking of selling it.
I might order a '24 WT or just move on all together.

I'm super bummed. Whining rant over...

I can only imagine how you feel. Waiting for that long and still get nothing.

 

[FloridaBurgBronco]

This is getting old.

21' Badsquatch with only 10k miles.

I literally just got my Bronco back after a complete rear axle replacement. It took 1 year and 2 dealers to finally get the leak/repair/replacement sorted out.
(I've posted in other threads about the plug welds and other leaks)

Upon picking up the Bronco for the rear axle, the dealer informs me of a new oil pan leak, and they ordered the parts.
Sure as shit, it's leaking about a dime size after driving, and is all over the skid plates.

Prior to that at the first dealer, they discovered a rear t-case seal leak and replaced that. That was 7 weeks in shop for that fiasco.

The reliability of this particular rig has really come to be questioned, I'm thinking of selling it.
I might order a '24 WT or just move on all together.

I'm super bummed. Whining rant over...

Yeah between transmission issues and computer software issues and other minor quality issue, I'm done with Ford. Lot of car makers had issues during Covid, but Ford has really used it as an excuse to put out crap vehicles. After 32 years of being a Ford guy, I'm done. Good luck with yours.

 

[Imaginary Friend]

I'd be seriously considering punting the rig in the OP's case....

I've been a Ford guy for the most part for almost 40 years, but my '19 F150 is sort of the turning point for me with Ford. It's been in the shop too many times and certain things about it just piss me off (warped dash, anyone?). Oh, and let's not forget the worst transmission programming known to man (the ZF8 in my JL is how it's done). My experience with this truck is one of several factors in why I remain sans Bronco.

 

[JediMcMuffin]

I'd be seriously considering punting the rig in the OP's case....

I've been a Ford guy for the most part for almost 40 years, but my '19 F150 is sort of the turning point for me with Ford. It's been in the shop too many times and certain things about it just piss me off (warped dash, anyone?). Oh, and let's not forget the worst transmission programming known to man (the ZF8 in my JL is how it's done). My experience with this truck is one of several factors in why I remain sans Bronco.

Yet here I sit, and in another browser tab is a JL owner talking about how Jeep hasn't been able to fix their rig for months now. Hard to tell whats the right course to take. The OP definitely has a little lemony experience going on. Its probably just a combination of being mishandled at multiple layers though.

 

[fwk727]

Discouraged Ford guy here. My 2012 Mustang is awesome. Never had a problem. My 2021 Big Bend? Eligible for lemon law. My 2021 F150? In and out of shop. Because I am an optimist I bought a 2023 Heritage edition. So far made it 5000 miles with no problems but it doesn't surprise me Ford reported 4.8 billion dollars in warranty work in last year

 

[Imaginary Friend]

Yet here I sit, and in another browser tab is a JL owner talking about how Jeep hasn't been able to fix their rig for months now. Hard to tell whats the right course to take. The OP definitely has a little lemony experience going on. Its probably just a combination of being mishandled at multiple layers though.

Yeah, it's pretty clear that they all make a turd now and then. Amazing how I seem to get stuck with them.

My JL is my fifth Wrangler, and it was a leap of faith buying another. Its predecessor, a '13, had a few issues, primarily oil leaks. The one before it, a '12, I swear to this day was possessed and was built on a Friday afternoon at the end of a shift. My two TJs were flawless.

Still, I have big reservations about a Bronco based on my F150 and the two that I've been in. My biggest beef beyond quality nits is that I can't get a cloth interior, no interest in boat vinyl in a convertible....

 

[RimrockPaul]

This is getting old.

21' Badsquatch with only 10k miles.

I literally just got my Bronco back after a complete rear axle replacement. It took 1 year and 2 dealers to finally get the leak/repair/replacement sorted out.
(I've posted in other threads about the plug welds and other leaks)

Upon picking up the Bronco for the rear axle, the dealer informs me of a new oil pan leak, and they ordered the parts.
Sure as shit, it's leaking about a dime size after driving, and is all over the skid plates.

Prior to that at the first dealer, they discovered a rear t-case seal leak and replaced that. That was 7 weeks in shop for that fiasco.

The reliability of this particular rig has really come to be questioned, I'm thinking of selling it.
I might order a '24 WT or just move on all together.

I'm super bummed. Whining rant over...

I wonder? Do the axles come into MAP from manufacturer pre built? Kind of like the engines and transmissions?
I mean....MAP is an assembly plant.
This axle and oil pan leakage problem..though ultimately Ford's problem needs research by Ford to find the root cause. Of course the last guy to touch it gets the blame.

 

[JBlanco]

Yeah, you have problems with the Bronco but you don't mention all the benefits, economic and otherwise, you get from Ford for being a "Ford Guy"!

I've heard you get preferential treatment at the dealership, deep discounts, and a healthy monthly allowance!

 

[BadlandsA51]

I wonder? Do the axles come into MAP from manufacturer pre built? Kind of like the engines and transmissions?
I mean....MAP is an assembly plant.
This axle and oil pan leakage problem..though ultimately Ford's problem needs research by Ford to find the root cause. Of course the last guy to touch it gets the blame.

Yes, axles come into the assembly plant pre-built. Assembly plants don’t put together any powertrain assemblies.

 

[BadlandsA51]

I wonder? Do the axles come into MAP from manufacturer pre built? Kind of like the engines and transmissions?
I mean....MAP is an assembly plant.
This axle and oil pan leakage problem..though ultimately Ford's problem needs research by Ford to find the root cause. Of course the last guy to touch it gets the blame.

There is a TSB addressing front pinion seal leakage for units built prior to July 9, 2023. It calls for a new seal and different oil to fix the problem.

 

[PEGB]

I’ll add (sorry if anyone already mentioned this and I missed it), while I’m not an “anyone” kind of guy, I’ll admit something about why I’ve owned 3 Fords in a row. I attribute it to my…cough age cough lol. I’ve always been a guy who loves tech and innovation, but damn I’m getting tired of relearning UI’s all the time. When I get into my wife’s Subaru, I can’t figure anything out! It’s as if the Japanese, European, and American manufacturers purposely do everything opposite in regards to UI. If it’s up to increase spreed on the cruise control for the Ford, It’s down on the Subaru. If the wipers are on the left stalk for the ford, they are on the right for the honda. It seems the older I get, the more frustrating trying to find the damn headlight switch is. Despite some minor technology evolution, the ford UI between my F150 then F250 and now the Bronco has stayed pretty much consistent. Everything is where I expect it to be, and functions how I remember. Every time I drive the wife’s car there’s a litany of swearing and mumbling involved. Their touch screen interface is a exercise in frustration. Sync has stayed pretty much Sync, for better or worse lol. So for me, the consistency has some measurable value. Now get off my lawn you wippersnappers!

 

[AreUgettingEnufCaffeine]

@imaginaryfriend I was hesitant about the Marine Grade Vinyl but Now I actually like it..throw up, mud, drinks, Doesn't matter..handles it like a boss. Drain plug open, hose water- there u go..also not stiff like conventional boat seats.

 

[Imaginary Friend]

@imaginaryfriend I was hesitant about the Marine Grade Vinyl but Now I actually like it..throw up, mud, drinks, Doesn't matter..handles it like a boss. Drain plug open, hose water- there u go..also not stiff like conventional boat seats.

MGV is fantastic for cleanup, but I hate it otherwise. I've had enough experience with it in boats, too hot. The Bronco stuff is more flexible though for sure.

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