Black diamond vs big bend 2 dr model

[AZ_Liberty]

Get the Big Bend. Make sure and get the biggest ratio gearing you can, unless you want a little better highway mileage. The 4.27 or 4.48 I think are options.

Both come stock with 4.46 if he buys a stick shift, which is what he wants.

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[CarmeloS]

I vote for a manual Black Diamond, and find the old steelies

Also @Ford Motor Company , bring back the base already, but with roll up windows

 

[Aonarch]

I vote for a manual Black Diamond, and find the old steelies

Also @Ford Motor Company , bring back the base already, but with roll up windows

You'd can't do roll up windows with the frameless doors.

 

[GoHack]

The Black Diamond also comes w/Rear Lockers.

I don't know if the Big Bend has that option, or simply has open differentials.

As part of the Black Diamond Package:

Rock Rails
Protective Skid Plates for the under carriage
Auxiliary Switch Box
Rear Locking Differential
4.46 Gearing w/the 7 Speed Manual, 2.3L Four Cylinder Turbo Engine
Front Steel Bumper for Mounting a Winch and such.
Black Diamond distinctive Black Steel Wheels, which many love, including myself.
Marine Grade Waterproof Seats and Rubberized Flooring

 

[mpeugeot]

Looks like the only way to get the automatic 4x4 is to upgrade to the squach package which really is more than I want to spend.

No, it's not. The Badlands non-Sasquatch is an option.

Either way, you can't go wrong with either of the cheaper Broncos as long as you at least get the rear locker. Unless you are in love with the factory equipment (e.g. Bumpers, skid plates, etc), I would not worry about the difference between the Big Bend and the Black Diamond.

While I prefer the 4A transfer case, the price of admission now is too high if you are considering a lower end Bronco. Other than the auxiliary switches, engine, transmission, transfer case, and front locker just about any other features that exist can be relatively easily retrofit to any Bronco.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[CarmeloS]

You'd can't do roll up windows with the frameless doors.

Shame, also one of the thing that makes the Wranglers stand out in this day and age among modern cars

 

[thesocalexplorer]

I was also heavily considering the Black Diamond vs. Big Bend. The deciding factor for me was the ability to add the signature lights, as I really liked the look. I ended up adding a rear locker to my order & added the metal skid plates (including transfer case) a la carte after I took delivery.

One thing I wasn't a big fan of on the Big Bend was the grille and anemic looking OEM tires. Both of which are easily replaced.

 

[mpeugeot]

The Black Diamond also comes w/Rear Lockers.

I don't know if the Big Bend has that option, or simply has open differentials.

As part of the Black Diamond Package:

Rock Rails
Protective Skid Plates for the under carriage
Auxiliary Switch Box
Rear Locking Differential
4.46 Gearing w/the 7 Speed Manual, 2.3L Four Cylinder Turbo Engine
Front Steel Bumper for Mounting a Winch and such.
Black Diamond distinctive Black Steel Wheels, which many love, including myself.
Marine Grade Waterproof Seats and Rubberized Flooring

Yes, you can get the rear locker on the Big Bend.

 

[MNBigfoot]

The Black Diamond also comes w/Rear Lockers.

I don't know if the Big Bend has that option, or simply has open differentials.

As part of the Black Diamond Package:

Rock Rails
Protective Skid Plates for the under carriage
Auxiliary Switch Box
Rear Locking Differential
4.46 Gearing w/the 7 Speed Manual, 2.3L Four Cylinder Turbo Engine
Front Steel Bumper for Mounting a Winch and such.
Black Diamond distinctive Black Steel Wheels, which many love, including myself.
Marine Grade Waterproof Seats and Rubberized Flooring

Generally I'd say BD all the way

But for the 2 door manual:
-He getting the same gearing
-the locker is a free option
-2-door has the gas tank skid
-he's opting the mod bumper (with front skid included)
-Aux swiches are $300
-Rock rails run $50 on craigslist

So for about $3000 in savings, he's missing out on the washout floor and 2 small skid plates.

 

[Aonarch]

Generally I'd say BD all the way

But for the 2 door manual:
-He getting the same gearing
-the locker is a free option
-2-door has the gas tank skid
-he's opting the mod bumper (with front skid included)
-Aux swiches are $300
-Rock rails run $50 on craigslist

So for about $3000 in savings, he's missing out on the washout floor and 2 small skid plates.

And the aftermarket wash out floor is better anyways.

Those small skids are cheap at his local dealer or through an online parts dealer like Ruxer Ford.

 

[mpeugeot]

Generally I'd say BD all the way

But for the 2 door manual:
-He getting the same gearing
-the locker is a free option
-2-door has the gas tank skid
-he's opting the mod bumper (with front skid included)
-Aux swiches are $300
-Rock rails run $50 on craigslist

So for about $3000 in savings, he's missing out on the washout floor and 2 small skid plates.

I picked up factory skids for free (other than the transmission skid, which is not standard on anything other than the BRaptor). Also ended up with the steel modular front bumper and steel rear bumper for free. Lots of people ditch them to upgrade. Got factory rock rails and Sasquatch fenders in trade for OBX painted fenders... So you can get a lot of this stuff inexpensively.

 

[Poppavein]

Heated seats were not a dealbreaker for me, the sheepskin cover I put on is working fine.
But I live in the balmy PNW.

 

[Imaginary Friend]

I'll throw my hat in the ring with the rest: sure wish I could order a BaseSquatch with cloth seats.

 

[idontknow]

I vote for a manual Black Diamond, and find the old steelies

Also @Ford Motor Company , bring back the base already, but with roll up windows

I LOVED the steelie look alikes the BD used to come with. Sad they replaced those. The non beadlock wheels look great too but not paying an extra 7k for the package.

 

[Oldhippie]

If ya want a 2dr manual (you never said) there seems to be about $4k difference and I don’t see it…I would get the big bend and add those extra things you may want from the aftermarket…but you do you…welcome and party on!

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