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A bit about me.....I wanted a Jeep from the time I was in high school and fianlly bought my first in my early 30s. Since then I've owned 18 more from CJs, YJs, TJs, JKs, and 2 JLs. I really love driving them, I believe they are one of the most significant historic vehicles from the 20th century and in short I am and was a fan. When the Bronco was first announced and then appeared on the ground I was not impressed. It was too large and it had (gasp!) IFS. And as all good Jeep fans know IFS just isn't strong enough/doesn't articulate enough to be any good on a real 4wd vehicle. I did not even give one a second thought.....

However, after some of the initial hysteria wore off and the dealership pricing came back down to normal markup levels, one of my Jeep buddies and myself went to the local Ford dealership, in my Jeep, and test drove a 2 dr, Sasquatch, auto, with a 2.3. I will say that we were surprised at the comfort and performance, on road, of the Bronco. However, it did have the IFS issue and it just didn't fit what we thought a tough 4wd truck should be. But the seed was sown for me.

I am 6' 8" tall so Jeeps have always been a bit iffy for my to fit into comfortablly. Time has not be good to my body and today I suffer from back, neck, and knee issues to the point about the only thing that I am comfortable in is a full sized pickup. I just can't function in any Jeep like I used to...and I have tried. Kevin, my Jeep buddy, and I were having lunch on day and he stated that at this point in my life, I should put comfort ahead ahead of anything else when selecting a vehicle. The issue was that I was looking for something to use to spend time in the mountains and get out and enjoy the outdoors....no longer looking to bounce off of rocks and trees. Of all people, he said if a Bronco might work I should consider one or buy and older full size pickup. Some good advice and I took it....I bought a 2018 Ram 1500 and I hated it after I bought it.

Long winded story but that's what led to Monday morning 3 weeks ago when I discovered Ford was offering 0% financing on 2026 Broncos. My wife and I jumped into the Ram pickup and drove to Pasco WA and a few hours later returned home in our new 2026, 2 dr, base, Sasquatch, auto, 2.3l Bronco. So what changed and made me decide on a Broco? Comfort was the driving force that pushed me here. The Bronco is for me very comfortable for a Jeep sized vehicle. But it has been an interesting mental journey for me as every time I drive it, I mentally compare it to a Jeep.

So what does this Jeep guy think about a Bronco after 3 weeks of ownership? I believe it was the best choice I could have made at this point in my life. I have spent time on FS roads in the mountain, on trails twice so far, on gravel county roads, and on the highway. And it has performed as good or better than I could have imagined.

Highway driving: The Bronco is clearly superior to the Jeep on the highway. It is smooth, it holds the road with the 35 inch tires as good as most anything I have driven in the last few years. It has none of the dead feeling in the center of steering wheel travel that the new Jeeps have. You do not have to constatly make small corrections to keep it straight as a JL requires. It is better.

Interior comfort: In the JL, I am tall enough the my head becomes roll over protection for the roll bar. That is not good. The only JL that I could drive were soft top ones. I like soft tops, so that was not an issue but being taller than the roll over protection was. Seating position and room are in two different leagues. The JL just is too small for me and couses me pain. Jeep never had a dead pedal, and the one in the Bronco contributes to a much more comfortable driving experience. I can drive this for a couple of hours and be pain free.

Interior fit and finish: I still like the interiors in the Jeeps. I think the interior design looks better and the materials used seem to appeal to me more. But that is personal opinion and is up to each person's own taste.

Sound system: No comparison, the Bronco wins hands down. i have the base system in mine and it is better than any of the more premium factory systems I have had in my Jeeps.

Interior noise: This one is a toss up. This Bronco is noisy and it seems to be as noisy and my JL soft tops were. Jeep did a good job on the JL with the soft tops in the noise department, but the were still noisy. This Bronco seems to be as noisy as they were but that again is my impression.

Drive train: This is where I think the Bronco struggles a bit. When we first came home with the new Bronco, I described the engine and transmission to my Jeep buddy as "remarkably unrefined." My comparisons being the 3.6l and 2.0l in the Jeep with both a manual and an auto. The 3.6l in the Jeep has a long history and is at this point a very refined package with the manual or the 8 speed. The 2.0l turbo has a much shorter history but seems to work well with the 8 speed. I think one of the good decisions Jeep made was to buy the 8 speed from ZF rather than trying to develope one themselves. That 8 speed us used in millions of vehicles arouind the world and is very well sorted. The 2.3l/10 speed in the Bronco is not smooth in 1st and 2nd gear. It has a bit of a rough shift and also hesitates when lightly accellerating in the 2 lower gears. It does not exhibit this when on the throttle hard, nor does it do this in the higher gears..just 1st and 2nd. When in eco mode it does not do this however and that makes me wonder if it might be throttle mapping and the way i am accellerating rather than the truck itself. The other thing I have noticed is that the engine and transmission seem to be learning as we put miles of and this issue is much reduced over brand new now. So we'll see. It's not enought of an issue to even bring up to the dealer so my hope is it corrects itself.

Overall Size: The wheelbase is I think 4" longer than a 2 dr Jeep so that might be an issue for some but for me at this point in my life, it gives me more interior room and a better driving experience, so it's a win. However, every true Jeep owner "knows" that Broncos are wider than Jeeps and will have trouble in the woods or rocks when traversing tight trails. As a Jeep owner I knew that. However as a Bronco owner I did some research and found some interesting information. A base Bronco is about 1.5" wider than a base JL. These numbers are from my memory no they may be off a little..... But it gets really interesting when you compre like to like models such and a Rubicon to a Badlands. Overall width of the JL Rubion vs a Badlands Bronco is very close. The Bronco is .5" wider than the Rubicon. Also, when comparing the Sasquatch to the 35" tire package on the JL, the difference is about .5". So in reality, overall width is very nearyl the same. I think the Jeep looks more narrow because the of the way the body narrows over the front wheels and it has the large plastic fender extensions.

Crap that's a buch of words.... In closing, I think the Bronco might be the perfect vehicle for my wants and needs at this piont in my life. I still believe the IFS is not as robust as a straight axle for hardcore off road stuff, but for 99% of us it works really well. It is clearly superior for highway driving. This Bronco should last me until the inevitable end of my "offroading" adventures and will take me anywhere I care to go.

I apologize in advance for any spelling issues....I'm not going to proofread this!!
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Welcome to the club, I’m also a fellow 2 door base Sasquatch driver. My sister in law has a 2 door wrangler and the Bronco feels just like that except wider and more refined.
 

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Agree. My 392 is smiles for miles, but the Bronco is my go to for when I'm on the road daily. It's great for daily, road trips, off road.

I'm just under 6 feet and my YJ is almost a bit too short for me. I'm not sure how you ever managed in one of those. Oddly, being in my LJ makes me feel short. It's so far from the top of my head to the roof.

I have a reservation for a scout, but I think I'm going to stick with a Bronco and get a Filson. Always been into jeeps as well, but I liked the g6 bronco from the getgo. It hasn't let me down.


So when you start posting here, you have to show us your Bronco. In exchange - and since you'll appreciate em, I'll show you my current Jeep stable. 95 YJ sahara, 23 20A AEV upfit, and an LJ that is new to me (AEV highline conversion).

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The 10r80 transmission is a heaping pile of junk, IMO. You're not wrong there. I have one in my 2018 F-150 and it's always downshifted terribly, and has a high defect rate. The newer ones have, apparently, somewhat improved the reliability issues but when I test drove an auto Bronco it still shifted horribly.

That said, it will learn your driving style over time and smooth out a little. Then you'll change the battery one day and it will all reset.

Luckily my 7MT is just what I wanted, so no problems here.
 

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Congrats on picking up a Bronco! I got mine about 4 weeks ago. Also a Jeep fan.

I have two TJ's. An 06 LJ is my trail rig. Also have an 04 TJ that I bought for my kids to drive, mostly stock. Before getting the LJ, I had a 2012 JKU. I ended up wanting a dedicated trail rig, so traded the '12 for the '06 and then bought a separate DD.

My last DD was a 2012 Ram 1500 that I didn't keep for long, not a fan of e-torque to say the least. I'm 6' and have had trouble getting comfortable in vehicles before. One problem I didn't have with the Ram.

My two choices when looking for a new DD were the JLU Willy's and the Bronco. My wife was adamantly opposed to 'a third Jeep' even though the 04 wasn't really for me. After looking into it, decided that the 2.7 and IFS would make a better DD. Wife was happy that it isn't 'another Jeep'. Though to me, it's similar. We're both happy it's not another Stellantis vehicle.

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I am 6' 8" tall so Jeeps have always been a bit iffy for my to fit into comfortablly.
This is a bit late, doe you, so it's an FYI for others. I have a cousin who's taller than you, 6'10", who drives a two door Wrangler. He removed the driver's seat and sits in the back seat. He seems very happy with it.
 

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He removed the driver's seat and sits in the back seat. He seems very happy with it.
Do you have a picture of that? The only place I've seen that done is on some weird drag cars where the engine takes up the front row.
 

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Drive train: This is where I think the Bronco struggles a bit. When we first came home with the new Bronco, I described the engine and transmission to my Jeep buddy as "remarkably unrefined."
Welcome to getting older and making the decisions that go with it, lol. I described the 2.3 that was in my 2020 Ranger in a similar fashion to a few friends. That thing also made more ticking and rattling noises than my diesel tractor ! One of the main reasons I opted for the 2.7 in my 2dr Bronco. It's a shame Ford dropped that option for 2drs, you would have been pleased with it I'm sure. The 2.3 is a fine engine for the Bronco though, it just has some quirks. Enjoy the Bronco !
 

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This is a bit late, doe you, so it's an FYI for others. I have a cousin who's taller than you, 6'10", who drives a two door Wrangler. He removed the driver's seat and sits in the back seat. He seems very happy with it.
I'm 6'5". My first car was a Chevy Luv. My dad and I did some surgery on the seat to get it back far enough for me to be able to sit in it.
 

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Welcome.

Interesting takes...

The 3.6 jeep motor is a literal steaming pile of garbage. The 2.0t runs circles around it in driveability.

The jeep solid axle story is classic. 99.9% of jeeple never utilize their jeeps on terrain where a solid axle would benefit them. Yet, on road, the downside is massive.

The Bronco has nore headroom, legroom, width/elbowroom and far more cargo space than the wrangler

I'm not a fan of the 2 door or the 2.3, but I'd take that 2.3 over the jeep 3.6 anyday. Neither one is really great though and neither auto tranny is great either. Try driving it in sport mode and see how the tranny feels. For me, it's a night and day difference and just feels like it shifts the way it is supposed to shift. Note: pop it into sport mode and then hit the 2wd button to get out of 4 auto.
 

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I replaced my 2012 2 door 6MT Wrangler Rubicon with my Heritage 4 door.
The Pentastar v6 failed at 105k miles...

I really enjoyed my Wrangler but the Bronco for me is better in every way - including off roading as there were several scenarios where the Wrangler's short wheel base made for sketchy very uncomfortable feeling moments. Same conditions were stable and fine in the Bronco.
I still get a thrill looking at my Bronco, and every time I get behind the wheel.

And the much better mpgs (due to not having open fenders that act like a sail) is just icing on the cake. This past w/e I drove a 100 mile round trip up into the mountains. So a mix of fwy, surface streets and off roading. I've done this trip numerous times in my Wrangler where the best I'd get would be maybe 17mpgs.
In the bigger, more powerful, heavier Bronco with 35s (my Rubicon had maybe 33s) I got over 22mpgs:

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A bit about me.....I wanted a Jeep from the time I was in high school and fianlly bought my first in my early 30s. Since then I've owned 18 more from CJs, YJs, TJs, JKs, and 2 JLs. I really love driving them, I believe they are one of the most significant historic vehicles from the 20th century and in short I am and was a fan. When the Bronco was first announced and then appeared on the ground I was not impressed. It was too large and it had (gasp!) IFS. And as all good Jeep fans know IFS just isn't strong enough/doesn't articulate enough to be any good on a real 4wd vehicle. I did not even give one a second thought.....

However, after some of the initial hysteria wore off and the dealership pricing came back down to normal markup levels, one of my Jeep buddies and myself went to the local Ford dealership, in my Jeep, and test drove a 2 dr, Sasquatch, auto, with a 2.3. I will say that we were surprised at the comfort and performance, on road, of the Bronco. However, it did have the IFS issue and it just didn't fit what we thought a tough 4wd truck should be. But the seed was sown for me.

I am 6' 8" tall so Jeeps have always been a bit iffy for my to fit into comfortablly. Time has not be good to my body and today I suffer from back, neck, and knee issues to the point about the only thing that I am comfortable in is a full sized pickup. I just can't function in any Jeep like I used to...and I have tried. Kevin, my Jeep buddy, and I were having lunch on day and he stated that at this point in my life, I should put comfort ahead ahead of anything else when selecting a vehicle. The issue was that I was looking for something to use to spend time in the mountains and get out and enjoy the outdoors....no longer looking to bounce off of rocks and trees. Of all people, he said if a Bronco might work I should consider one or buy and older full size pickup. Some good advice and I took it....I bought a 2018 Ram 1500 and I hated it after I bought it.

Long winded story but that's what led to Monday morning 3 weeks ago when I discovered Ford was offering 0% financing on 2026 Broncos. My wife and I jumped into the Ram pickup and drove to Pasco WA and a few hours later returned home in our new 2026, 2 dr, base, Sasquatch, auto, 2.3l Bronco. So what changed and made me decide on a Broco? Comfort was the driving force that pushed me here. The Bronco is for me very comfortable for a Jeep sized vehicle. But it has been an interesting mental journey for me as every time I drive it, I mentally compare it to a Jeep.

So what does this Jeep guy think about a Bronco after 3 weeks of ownership? I believe it was the best choice I could have made at this point in my life. I have spent time on FS roads in the mountain, on trails twice so far, on gravel county roads, and on the highway. And it has performed as good or better than I could have imagined.

Highway driving: The Bronco is clearly superior to the Jeep on the highway. It is smooth, it holds the road with the 35 inch tires as good as most anything I have driven in the last few years. It has none of the dead feeling in the center of steering wheel travel that the new Jeeps have. You do not have to constatly make small corrections to keep it straight as a JL requires. It is better.

Interior comfort: In the JL, I am tall enough the my head becomes roll over protection for the roll bar. That is not good. The only JL that I could drive were soft top ones. I like soft tops, so that was not an issue but being taller than the roll over protection was. Seating position and room are in two different leagues. The JL just is too small for me and couses me pain. Jeep never had a dead pedal, and the one in the Bronco contributes to a much more comfortable driving experience. I can drive this for a couple of hours and be pain free.

Interior fit and finish: I still like the interiors in the Jeeps. I think the interior design looks better and the materials used seem to appeal to me more. But that is personal opinion and is up to each person's own taste.

Sound system: No comparison, the Bronco wins hands down. i have the base system in mine and it is better than any of the more premium factory systems I have had in my Jeeps.

Interior noise: This one is a toss up. This Bronco is noisy and it seems to be as noisy and my JL soft tops were. Jeep did a good job on the JL with the soft tops in the noise department, but the were still noisy. This Bronco seems to be as noisy as they were but that again is my impression.

Drive train: This is where I think the Bronco struggles a bit. When we first came home with the new Bronco, I described the engine and transmission to my Jeep buddy as "remarkably unrefined." My comparisons being the 3.6l and 2.0l in the Jeep with both a manual and an auto. The 3.6l in the Jeep has a long history and is at this point a very refined package with the manual or the 8 speed. The 2.0l turbo has a much shorter history but seems to work well with the 8 speed. I think one of the good decisions Jeep made was to buy the 8 speed from ZF rather than trying to develope one themselves. That 8 speed us used in millions of vehicles arouind the world and is very well sorted. The 2.3l/10 speed in the Bronco is not smooth in 1st and 2nd gear. It has a bit of a rough shift and also hesitates when lightly accellerating in the 2 lower gears. It does not exhibit this when on the throttle hard, nor does it do this in the higher gears..just 1st and 2nd. When in eco mode it does not do this however and that makes me wonder if it might be throttle mapping and the way i am accellerating rather than the truck itself. The other thing I have noticed is that the engine and transmission seem to be learning as we put miles of and this issue is much reduced over brand new now. So we'll see. It's not enought of an issue to even bring up to the dealer so my hope is it corrects itself.

Overall Size: The wheelbase is I think 4" longer than a 2 dr Jeep so that might be an issue for some but for me at this point in my life, it gives me more interior room and a better driving experience, so it's a win. However, every true Jeep owner "knows" that Broncos are wider than Jeeps and will have trouble in the woods or rocks when traversing tight trails. As a Jeep owner I knew that. However as a Bronco owner I did some research and found some interesting information. A base Bronco is about 1.5" wider than a base JL. These numbers are from my memory no they may be off a little..... But it gets really interesting when you compre like to like models such and a Rubicon to a Badlands. Overall width of the JL Rubion vs a Badlands Bronco is very close. The Bronco is .5" wider than the Rubicon. Also, when comparing the Sasquatch to the 35" tire package on the JL, the difference is about .5". So in reality, overall width is very nearyl the same. I think the Jeep looks more narrow because the of the way the body narrows over the front wheels and it has the large plastic fender extensions.

Crap that's a buch of words.... In closing, I think the Bronco might be the perfect vehicle for my wants and needs at this piont in my life. I still believe the IFS is not as robust as a straight axle for hardcore off road stuff, but for 99% of us it works really well. It is clearly superior for highway driving. This Bronco should last me until the inevitable end of my "offroading" adventures and will take me anywhere I care to go.

I apologize in advance for any spelling issues....I'm not going to proofread this!!
Dude, that was worth the read! I've often wondered about the differences, ALMOST reaching for a Gladiator until the Bronco stole my heart at first sight. Yours is the most thorough review I've seen. Thx.
 

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This is a bit late, doe you, so it's an FYI for others. I have a cousin who's taller than you, 6'10", who drives a two door Wrangler. He removed the driver's seat and sits in the back seat. He seems very happy with it.
That's what West Coast Customs did all those years ago when they did a Wrangler for Shaq. They removed the front and rear seats and did custom seating at the right distance for him.
 

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Welcome to getting older and making the decisions that go with it, lol. I described the 2.3 that was in my 2020 Ranger in a similar fashion to a few friends. That thing also made more ticking and rattling noises than my diesel tractor ! One of the main reasons I opted for the 2.7 in my 2dr Bronco. It's a shame Ford dropped that option for 2drs, you would have been pleased with it I'm sure. The 2.3 is a fine engine for the Bronco though, it just has some quirks. Enjoy the Bronco !
The '25+ 2.3 is not the same as the 2020 2.3 other than displacement.

OP, run premium and get some miles on it so that the ECM/TCM can make adjustments to the base maps. Not sure what effect the auto has, but I have no complaints about the powertrain performance either here at under 2000’ Phoenix or 7000’ Flagstaff.
 

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The 10r80 transmission is a heaping pile of junk, IMO. You're not wrong there. I have one in my 2018 F-150 and it's always downshifted terribly, and has a high defect rate.
They aren’t. The early ones had some issues and it is fixed.

The newer ones have, apparently, somewhat improved the reliability issues but when I test drove an auto Bronco it still shifted horribly.
I think it was operator error.
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