Don't mod taillights!

[WarthogJr]

What’s not?

Yeah, I get it. BUT...some things are surprisingly made in places other than China. Rigid Industries for instance, manufactures in Gilbert, AZ and Puebla, Mexico. https://www.rigidindustries.com/more-info/why-rigid.

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[Brian_B]

Say what you want about the halogen tails but they're allot easier/cheaper to replace a bulb vice a whole taillight assembly.

Cheaper? Yeah, the bulbs are somewhat rare though. But yeah, a lot less than an entire assembly.

Easier? No. You have to pull the entire assembly out anyway, then fiddle with getting the bulb replaced, then put it all back together. LED is just pull old assembly, reinstall new assembly.

And there's the fact that, at least in theory, the LED ones ~should~ last longer than halogen ones. Not sure how true that is, halogens don't exactly have a short life anyway.

(holy cow, I looked it up - the entire OEM Halogen assembly is $300, the OEM LED Assembly is .. $1,000 --- per side)

 

[EmCon]

I’ve had the exact same issue as OP, I’m trying the new Form taillights this time around

 

[Lowcountry Bronco]

Cheaper? Yeah, the bulbs are somewhat rare though. But yeah, a lot less than an entire assembly.

Easier? No. You have to pull the entire assembly out anyway, then fiddle with getting the bulb replaced, then put it all back together. LED is just pull old assembly, reinstall new assembly.

And there's the fact that, at least in theory, the LED ones ~should~ last longer than halogen ones. Not sure how true that is, halogens don't exactly have a short life anyway.

(holy cow, I looked it up - the entire OEM Halogen assembly is $300, the OEM LED Assembly is .. $1,000 --- per side)

I have removed the rears, replaced the reverse bulb with an LED one to get more light. First one was a bit nerve racking but then the second was definitely easier!

 

[Dan00Hawk]

Knock on wood, but I have approximately 18,000 miles of use with my Oracle tails and no issues so far.

 

[Swacer]

I often wonder how Oracle is still around. They have been making garbage products since the Genesis Coupes and the Gen 5 Camaro forums in the 2010s, and it continues. Yet, people do no research and continue to buy them. Vomit...

 

[Ducati1098]

Cheaper? Yeah, the bulbs are somewhat rare though.

This is the second time on here I've seen someone say halogen bulbs are rare or hard to get.
I don't understand this at all. You can walk into any dealership or parts store and buy the correct bulb for $5-10. Ford alone has thousands of them in stock across the country.

 

[HeHateMe]

This is the second time on here I've seen someone say halogen bulbs are rare or hard to get.
I don't understand this at all. You can walk into any dealership or parts store and buy the correct bulb for $5-10. Ford alone has thousands of them in stock across the country.

They must mean "out on the trails...."

 

[Tricky Mike]

Mabett has entered the building...

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/mabett-smoked-led-tail-lights-trash.108315/

I might trust Mabett more than Oracle at this point.

 

[4x4TruckLEDs.com]

Let me start by saying this is just a fair warning to anyone who is looking to upgrade your taillights.
I bought these direct from the manufacturer and at the time had only seen positive reviews about the company and their quality. My experience has proven to be less fortunate not once but now twice. The photos below are taken about four months apart and the issue is the same. The difference however is that the failed tail lamp on the drivers side from the first photo was exchanged for a brand new one seen in photo number two. The first lamp lasted 6 months or thereabouts from time of install as I left them in the box for about a year while I sourced the time for the install and more importantly the early Windows PC that could run the Forescan to even use the lamps. They were actually good about replacing this from the perspective of the normal warranty period as my procrastination with installation had passed the warranty period. I appreciated this very much actually.
But the process to deal with the requirements of that manufacturer and the hoops they force you to jump through was quite painful and not logical or convenient to the end user. To get the replacement lamp took about a month of back and forth plus they wanted me to remove the light for a build code before they would ship the replacement. Let's just say this is far from convenient and what I found when I finally did go to replace the lamp is that the plastic tab that pushes into the holder is very brittle and broke immediately upon removal. The second lamp lasted less than 4 months. I guess I'm going back to stock at this point.

What is the issue exactly? Did your truck come with halogens or LED tail lights from the factory?

If you have halogen then there are known issues with the tail lights, especially driver side. BUT if you have LED they should work fine... at least if you used a quality brand.

I don't know what brand you used but they don't look like any of the quality brands we sell. But even the quality brands have issues with the OEM halogen equipped trucks.

Morimoto has released a fix for their lights, but those don't look like Morimoto. And the new Form Tails claim they work with halogen equipped trucks. But those are the only two quality brands we sell that make tail lights.

All of the other tail lights out there that are very inexpensive are... well inexpensive for a reason.

And to chime in on what someone else said about why a certain company is still in business and they don't know HOW they are... Well you can thank the Jeep market for that Jeepers LOVE cheap stuff, even if it fails constantly. It's cheap!

 

[Bikeric]

Count me in as another Oracle user on a second set of tail lights. Still, the set is 1/3 the price of a single Ford tail light so I guess I'm still ahead of the game?

 

[4x4TruckLEDs.com]

Count me in as another Oracle user on a second set of tail lights. Still, the set is 1/3 the price of a single Ford tail light so I guess I'm still ahead of the game?

I mean... are you though? Time is money right? Is it worth it to save a bit of $$ but have to constantly swap them out?

 

[indio22]

I might trust Mabett more than Oracle at this point.

I don't get what's so difficult about making some reliable tail lights. Other than occasionally needing to replace a rather low cost halogen bulb, those type have worked well for me OEM and aftermarket.

But paying hundreds for LED lights that have issues or fail, and with no low cost replacement bulb option, seems a step backwards.

 

[userdude]

I have removed the rears, replaced the reverse bulb with an LED one to get more light. First one was a bit nerve racking but then the second was definitely easier!

Do you have to remove the tailgate to replace the passenger side taillight?

 

[userdude]

Count me in as another Oracle user on a second set of tail lights. Still, the set is 1/3 the price of a single Ford tail light so I guess I'm still ahead of the game?

Missing a taillight in OK is a rite of passage, or so I've heard... lol

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