Interesting cliff notes. Paints APG is a much more negative light than previously discussed around here.. Well at least Lite Brite (don't want to @ the poor guy since we are really stupid or whatever he called us) has been backing APG.
What would've been bad azz was if you wouldn't questioned APG about the top fiasco... Or simply said, that's a kick ass top, is that the one you screwed ADV over on?
100%What would've been bad azz was if you wouldn't questioned APG about the top fiasco... Or simply said, that's a kick ass top, is that the one you screwed ADV over on?
What a gift that your mind thinks in memes.I read your comment and instantly thought of this
I guess - my view is it paints ADV's stance - which is going to be they gave APG $4.4 million to fund their share of the development of the top and APG failed to manufacture a final product that could be sold. ADV is going to claim AGP failed and had inflated costs ($1k originally estimated vs $3k actual per ADV) because they wasted the money on "other" things besides R&D/Manufacturing and that they didn't have the experience in manufacturing overseas they claimed to start.
So I was looking at APG over the weekend because of the rumor they were building the ADV tops now. Of course I was investigating their long travel kit. I was baffled at the CGI of the rear system because it is not complete. It just leaves the arms connected to nowhere. One side lower is on the stock mount and the other is their new mount.
What I'm getting at is when you look at the upper mounts they are still in the stock location. I expected that because of the location of the gas tank. I was genuinely curious how they were going to approached that.
So in conclusion I'm even more baffled than before. We have custom coilovers mounts and longer lower control arms. But yet it has the stock length upper control arms. I don't get it, am I missing something???? How does this make it a long travel kit.
I've seen the APG Bronco in action and it looks impressive, but it should it has bypass shocks AND coilovers on all four corners. But I just question how much longer the travel can be with this sort of hodge podge setup.
Got it -- no problem. I think the best thing to do is exactly what is going on with this thread. ADV is ruined and it remains to be seen how this affects APG. The two companies are blaming each other and will battle it out in court. None of this bodes well for customers getting their money back or a top. What did ADV do with the pre-order money? I’m thinking the relationship between ADV and APG started to go south and ADV bailed and contracted a Chinese company to make the tops bypassing APG, causing APG to file or enforce their patent. This is all al guess of course, but one thing we know a lawsuit has been filed by ADV and they will battle it out in court.
