2025 2.3L Performance Calibration - Worth it?

[MilesTeg]

That’s very good to know, thank you

I've read a lot of back and forth on this on the intertubes, but when I asked my dealer, here's what they said: Ford will honor the factory warranty even if the tune is linked to the failure, but the ESP is voided if the tune is linked to the failure (just like any random aftermarket part).

So, it's still not just a blanket invalidation, but the ESP won't cover damage caused by the tune. And, the dealer/Ford have a lot of leeway in that so there's a good chance you'll be screwed even if the tune, in reality, had nothing to do with the failure. Hopefully that makes sense.

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[RedBeardoh]

I've read a lot of back and forth on this on the intertubes, but when I asked my dealer, here's what they said: Ford will honor the factory warranty even if the tune is linked to the failure, but the ESP is voided if the tune is linked to the failure (just like any random aftermarket part).

So, it's still not just a blanket invalidation, but the ESP won't cover damage caused by the tune. And, the dealer/Ford have a lot of leeway in that so there's a good chance you'll be screwed even if the tune, in reality, had nothing to do with the failure. Hopefully that makes sense.

makes perfect sense, thank you. I just wish the warranty department would treat my mods as innocent until undoubtedly proved guilty. Engine blows up - well it’s clearly because you have non-OEM rear wiper blade

 

[23OBX2.7]

Anything Ford warranty is a gamble theyre bleeding money booking massive losses and write downs so its a matter of survival to delay and deny as much warranty as possible.

Normalizing defects it a new tactic they employ to instantly slash masssive known aand approved warraty liabilities with one keystroke. They change the rules all the time.

I did not hesitate to get the FP tune and had bo issues with my Mustang convertibe HPP tune engine at all....its a great tune and you know it works long term unlike aftermarket that has zero warranty.

 

[CarmeloS]

Anyone else have feedback? I am tempted. The dealer says install takes two hours. They want $199.97 an hour and say it usually takes two hours.

They're jerking you off for 2hrs, I did the setup for the account and the file upload and tune within an hour on my home pc

 

[teej_25bb]

Anyone else have feedback? I am tempted. The dealer says install takes two hours. They want $199.97 an hour and say it usually takes two hours.

I've had it for a month or so, and I'd say it's worth it. The added torque is early on, noticeable and where it should be. I'd swear the engine sounds a little deeper, even from outside, and you will definitely hear the turbo hiss more often and a bit louder. So there's some fun and performance to it.

I don't have experience with a tuned 6 to compare, but if you go with Ford's official numbers (333hp and 415 lb-ft), the tuned 2025 4 cylinder ends up fairly close to the tuned 6 (355hp and 433 lb-ft).

My dealer charged for one hour, $195. It was definitely quick. I did the online registration part at home before I dropped off the vehicle, and the tech knew the rest of the process for downloading and installing the software (it's simple, could easily DIY, but wanted to make sure warranty was preserved).

While tuned, you will have to use at least 91 octane, and you won't get the full gains unless you use 93. Gas prices being what they are, it's not the best time for a tune. But my Bronco is more of a weekend warrior, so I can get away with it.

Not saying the other posters here are wrong, but I would call Ford about tune compatibility with Extended Service Plans. It is definitely OK to add to leased Broncos (mine is leased, and the dealer who installed the tune is the same that leased it to me), and the tune is VIN-locked, so I have a hard time understanding why it would screw up an ESP. Also, it can be reverted to stock.

 

[swimpunk]

+1 Worth it. '23 BL MT. I pulled the trigger a week ago when they had the "spring20" discount to save 20% on materials ($170). Definitely tell a difference, normal w/ FPT feels closer to sport mode and sport mode feels insane.

You're getting ripped off on install, you can include it in the online purchase. I paid 112$ for install in Denver.

 

[deep-bronco]

Do we have a definitive answer on the validity of extended warranty once the tune is installed? I do not want to give up on that. But the tune sounds tempting, esp with the ongoing discounts.

 

[Ducati1098]

Do we have a definitive answer on the validity of extended warranty once the tune is installed? I do not want to give up on that. But the tune sounds tempting, esp with the ongoing discounts.

ESP is not a factory warranty, so any modifications like the FP tune could cause denial.
That doesn't necessarily mean it will in all cases though. It's completely dependent on the situation and failure.

 

[FoCoBronc]

ESP is not a factory warranty, so any modifications like the FP tune could cause denial.
That doesn't necessarily mean it will in all cases though. It's completely dependent on the situation and failure.

Good answer. Here is verbatim (lengthy) what Granger told me on this issue. Bottom line-gray area and like Ducati said- "dependent on the situation and filure"

"If the Ford Performance calibration is installed by a Ford dealership, it will not automatically void your factory warranty. Ford Performance provides its own 3yr/36k warranty on the calibration, which works alongside the factory warranty. However, if a failure is determined to be caused by the calibration, that specific repair would be handled under the Ford Performance warranty, not the standard factory warranty. The calibration comes with a Ford Performance-backed warranty when Installed by a Ford dealer and Properly registered. This warranty covers issues directly related to the calibration for 3 years / 36,000 miles from the vehicle’s in-service date.

Ford Protect PremiumCARE (Your Extended Warranty) Your PremiumCARE plan remains active and valid.

However, like all extended warranties:

It will not cover failures caused by modifications, including a tune​

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If a repair is unrelated to the calibration, it will still be covered as normal​

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If a failure is linked to the calibration, it may be denied under PremiumCARE and instead fall under the Ford Performance warranty (if applicable)​

Simple Breakdown

PremiumCARE still covers the vehicle overall​

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Anything caused by the calibration may not be covered under PremiumCARE​

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Ford Performance warranty covers calibration-related issues (if installed correctly)​

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Factory warranty remains in place for non-related issues​

Bottom Line

Installing the Ford Performance calibration through a Ford dealer does not void your warranties, but it does create a situation where:

Coverage depends on what caused the issue​

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Different warranties may apply depending on the repair"​

 

[teej_25bb]

Bottom Line

Installing the Ford Performance calibration through a Ford dealer does not void your warranties, but it does create a situation where:

Coverage depends on what caused the issue​

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Different warranties may apply depending on the repair"​

In my case, I got my tune under lease, done by the dealer I leased from. Lease will run out before tune's Ford Performance Warranty will.

I will definitely ask how the tune affects an ESP before buy out.

Love the Bronco, love the tune.

 

[FoCoBronc]

I’m waiting for 2026 tune to be released. they sound impressive. I’m just surprised how mainstream tunes have become and with manufacturers now selling them. My brother asked me if they are so popular why don’t manufacturers just install from factory. Not sure myself if it’s money or that the buying segment is still relatively small.

 

[FoCoBronc]

Perhaps the “slight?” risk poses warranty issues to manufacturers

 

[MilesTeg]

I’m waiting for 2026 tune to be released. they sound impressive. I’m just surprised how mainstream tunes have become and with manufacturers now selling them. My brother asked me if they are so popular why don’t manufacturers just install from factory. Not sure myself if it’s money or that the buying segment is still relatively small.

Emissions, mpg, and warranty are why. Factory tunes balance lots of things. Aftermarket tunes DGAF about the engine longevity, emissions and mpg.

That said, I have no doubt Ford and others see the opportunity to squeeze more money out of customers and plan for that more than in the past, too.

 

[FoCoBronc]

everyone seems to think ProCal is relatively tame compared to Panda and other aftermarket tunes. Ford now sells them for trucks and cars. My son just did his BMW and plans to do his Z6. I wonder if in several years they will be an order option on certain vehicles or engines.

 

[Ducati1098]

everyone seems to think ProCal is relatively tame compared to Panda and other aftermarket tunes.

That’s because it really is.
The procal gives you roughly an extra ~30hp and torque (which aren’t even numbers to the rear wheels)
Whereas a custom tune can get you ~85rwhp and 110rwtq. It’s a pretty massive difference

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