Sasquatch vs not, for "soccer mom use"

[userdude]

You want her telling you no on something you want?

Uhh... Since most men are children, yes, you do.

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[Jazer]

Hi all, just joined up hoping for some help. My wife has wanted a Bronco really bad since they were announced. We recently placed an order for an Outer Banks, since I felt that was close to what her use case was. We never offroad, except maybe the occasional trip up to a cabin (which our standard AWD SUV handles just fine). This will pretty much just be used for work commute and errands.

But now that it's soon to arrive, I'm finding out she wanted the Sasquatch package. But only for the looks, not out of any realistic off-road need. While I'd have concerns about noise/comfort/etc. on road, she's driven both and seems fine with it. She says she doesn't like the looks of the Outer Banks standard, she wants the bigger and beefier tires.

I don't want to push her to settle, but I also don't want her to hold off for a Sasquatch, paying a lot more money, and have regrets when the honeymoon period is over.

I've thought about pushing for aftermarket wheels, but not sure that's worth it after labor costs, voided warranty, mucked up gearing and speedometer, etc.

All that to say, hoping for any advice, personal experience, or ideas to help me out with advising her. Thanks!

Most people aren't going to utilize everything that is incorporated in the sasq package. For someone that just wants it for looks, the nice benefit is the warranty for the larger tires/"lift"..

I love my non-sasq OBX. Sure, if budget was no consideration I would have spent an extra 5k to add it on, but it's 100% not necessary for most people. I actually do take mine off pavement too.

I personally added Badlands optional wheel takeoffs (33s) and they look great. I may upgrade tire size eventually, once these wear out - but the 33s are still a HUGE upgrade over the standard OBX wheels/tires, even though overall tire diameter change, is fairly minimal. I did not lose any real performance (engine/mpg/drivability, etc) & I'm not too concerned about any warranty denials with this swap either.

 

[2023bronco]

Looks far better than a SAS Outer Banks

 

[NoloBronco]

My wife says to SAS it!

 

[mpeugeot]

I can afford it, why would I tell her no? You want her telling you no on something you want? I'm not afraid of anything, but if she wants something, she can have it, just like I can. And that's legit enough for me.

It's not about whether you can or can't afford it, but rather why would you want her getting something that she didn't really need, wouldn't benefit from, and can't even identify while pissing thousands of dollars away? Perhaps understanding whether she wants the look versus the capability (or additional complexity/potential decreased reliability) of the Sasquatch package matters. I would also suggest that not allowing your partner to make irrational decisions is an important part of being there for your partner.

If she legitimately wanted the WildTrak vs the OBX for instance, even if it were only because the Bronco logo was stitched into the seat - that's cool; however, if she didn't understand the additional cost, capability, and complexity - I might say no. Especially if she's 4'10", never wheeled in her life, and couldn't tell the difference between a sasquatch and a leprechaun.

Wait, I actually did say no... LOL. My girlfriend wanted a WildTrak, because, I kid you not, because the cloth interior of the WildTrak had Broncos in the seats and the OBX didn't. Initially, I did order a WildTrak Lux for her, but come 2023 we had a choice - roll the dice and keep our 2023 order as is and risk not getting built or take the $2500 and switch to the OBX High.

I told her "No" on the WildTrak because if we rolled over to 2024 we would lose all price protection and that I could get her nearly everything she "wanted" for $20-25k less in the OBX non-sasquatch. It was the right call and she loves her OBX - which now has or is getting a sasquatch suspension, wheels/tires, adaptive cruise control, and a bumpin' stereo that she loves for much less money.

The price on the OBX was $40,476
MSRP for 2024 WildTrak is $65, 350

 

[timhood]

I need to figure this one out as we just switched the wife's OBX to SAS Wheels & Tires...

You can buy the OBDLinkEX and use the free ForScan software with a laptop to change not only the speedometer calibration, but a number of other features you might like. If you already have an OBD tool that can connect via USB, it will probably work (and is certainly worth trying).

 

[timhood]

Most people aren't going to utilize everything that is incorporated in the sasq package. For someone that just wants it for looks, the nice benefit is the warranty for the larger tires/"lift"..

I love my non-sasq OBX. Sure, if budget was no consideration I would have spent an extra 5k to add it on, but it's 100% not necessary for most people. I actually do take mine off pavement too.

I personally added Badlands optional wheel takeoffs (33s) and they look great. I may upgrade tire size eventually, once these wear out - but the 33s are still a HUGE upgrade over the standard OBX wheels/tires, even though overall tire diameter change, is fairly minimal. I did not lose any real performance (engine/mpg/drivability, etc) & I'm not too concerned about any warranty denials with this swap either.

Perfect before-and-after photos of what I am suggesting.

 

[amazingjason]

Hi all, just joined up hoping for some help. My wife has wanted a Bronco really bad since they were announced. We recently placed an order for an Outer Banks, since I felt that was close to what her use case was. We never offroad, except maybe the occasional trip up to a cabin (which our standard AWD SUV handles just fine). This will pretty much just be used for work commute and errands.

But now that it's soon to arrive, I'm finding out she wanted the Sasquatch package. But only for the looks, not out of any realistic off-road need. While I'd have concerns about noise/comfort/etc. on road, she's driven both and seems fine with it. She says she doesn't like the looks of the Outer Banks standard, she wants the bigger and beefier tires.

I don't want to push her to settle, but I also don't want her to hold off for a Sasquatch, paying a lot more money, and have regrets when the honeymoon period is over.

I've thought about pushing for aftermarket wheels, but not sure that's worth it after labor costs, voided warranty, mucked up gearing and speedometer, etc.

All that to say, hoping for any advice, personal experience, or ideas to help me out with advising her. Thanks!

It is all or nothing for me. The point of the Bronco is to be a great looking, beefy off road vehicle. Either get a two door Sasquatch or get something else.
Jason

 

[Pressurized]

It's not about whether you can or can't afford it, but rather why would you want her getting something that she didn't really need, wouldn't benefit from, and can't even identify while pissing thousands of dollars away? Perhaps understanding whether she wants the look versus the capability (or additional complexity/potential decreased reliability) of the Sasquatch package matters. I would also suggest that not allowing your partner to make irrational decisions is an important part of being there for your partner.

If she legitimately wanted the WildTrak vs the OBX for instance, even if it were only because the Bronco logo was stitched into the seat - that's cool; however, if she didn't understand the additional cost, capability, and complexity - I might say no. Especially if she's 4'10", never wheeled in her life, and couldn't tell the difference between a sasquatch and a leprechaun.

Wait, I actually did say no... LOL. My girlfriend wanted a WildTrak, because, I kid you not, because the cloth interior of the WildTrak had Broncos in the seats and the OBX didn't. Initially, I did order a WildTrak Lux for her, but come 2023 we had a choice - roll the dice and keep our 2023 order as is and risk not getting built or take the $2500 and switch to the OBX High.

I told her "No" on the WildTrak because if we rolled over to 2024 we would lose all price protection and that I could get her nearly everything she "wanted" for $20-25k less in the OBX non-sasquatch. It was the right call and she loves her OBX - which now has or is getting a sasquatch suspension, wheels/tires, adaptive cruise control, and a bumpin' stereo that she loves for much less money.

The price on the OBX was $40,476
MSRP for 2024 WildTrak is $65, 350

So many things, so far off base...

Who are you to decide what she needs? If she wants it, that's need enough for me. Married for 35 years in April this year...

Besides, even if it was just for the look, you can't get there for the $$ anyways. How much is a regear? Ever done one? if you tried, you would find that the $2000 worth of lockers is basically free.... I've built around 300 Jeeps over the last 3 years (I consult for a high volume offroad shop) and would NEVER go from 32's to 35's without a regear. It sounds like you don't care about losing the performance... Your Bronco will be a compromise. That's not for me...

I tow an offroad trailer... About 2200lbs in the mountains. A serious compromise if not geared properly. You can't make your 2+2 equal 4, no matter how hard you try.

Built the way we built ours, the MSRP was over $60k. The Wildtrack? Also, just over $60k. We were on the fence on the 2 and chose the OBX for the interior colors only. So your comparison is moot. The delta is only the $5k+ for Squatch. It's simply ignorant to compare a base OBX with a Wildtrack. And pissing it away? HAHAHA... It's not like the Squatch has zero value the day you drive it off the lot.

Good luck to you... You certainly don't see things the way I do.

 

[mpeugeot]

Besides, even if it was just for the look, you can't get there for the $$ anyways. How much is a regear?

Lots of assumptions, but to address some of your points.

I am glad you asked. It was $1500 for the FDU, half-shafts, and rear gears. The master rebuild kit for the M220 is about $250.

Ever done one? if you tried, you would find that the $2000 worth of lockers is basically free.... I've built around 300 Jeeps over the last 3 years (I consult for a high volume offroad shop) and would NEVER go from 32's to 35's without a regear.

Yes, I have regeared vehicles before. It's not exactly rocket science. The 4.27 gears in the OBX are about 10% different from the 4.7's, so it's not nearly the big deal that you are making it sound like.

It sounds like you don't care about losing the performance... Your Bronco will be a compromise. That's not for me...

Holy jumping to conclusions there... With the Ford Performance Tune, I can make up for much of the delta from that alone.

I tow an offroad trailer... About 2200lbs in the mountains. A serious compromise if not geared properly. You can't make your 2+2 equal 4, no matter how hard you try.

Well actually I think that you can, especially when you have a 2 door that has 7.5% more HP (330 vs 355 HP) and weighs 15% less than a 4 door WildTrak (4416 lbs vs ~5100 lbs).

The trailer, at 2200 lbs, puts a WildTrak 4 door at 7300 lbs total weight, but a 2 door OBX weighing 4416 lbs is at 6616 lbs (roughly 10% less total - about the same difference as the 4.27 vs 4.70 gears).

BTW, while not an off-road trailer, I typically tow a 2800 lb trailer through the Texas hill country and it's not struggling one bit.

Good luck to you... You certainly don't see things the way I do.

Good luck to you as well. We definitely see things differently, but I don't think that you're wrong, it's just a different approach.

 

[mpeugeot]

BTW for the OP

Check this out. I think that you will find it helpful.

https://tinyurl.com/OBXBroncoWheels

It's a variety of OBX non-sasquatch builds and tires.

 

[Coastalcop]

While I’m partial to SAS, with the XO we list the have to haves and the want to haves for her ride. She travels quite a bit for work between offices. She is partial to Lexus and started with an RX350 suv. Her “have To’s” were lane assist, radar cruise, basically the help you drive features. Mine was AWD, mainly to reduce hydroplaning ( not much snow around here very often)

that one worked great until a tire jumped the median on I-10. Car held together great….. hell, the XO and my mom drove it another 70 miles to the casino after the trooper kindly cut out most of the inner fender well for them.

my “have to’s” changed after that , and I mandated body on frame construction, and a larger vehicle . Hers remained the same with driver aids and it can’t “ drive like a truck”. The Lexus gx460 was the compromise .

that one worked great until a drunk driver decided to host speed week going the wrong way on 281. The head-on was 75-80 her 95-100 him. She lived with relatively minor injuries considering, he didn’t.

my “have to’s “ changed to body on frame, and bigger, her remains the same with less emphasis on “can’t drive like a truck”. Lexus LX570 fit the bill, and she loves it. Says it’s smoother than her gx460 was.

I also told her that if we get any kind of repeat, the next one will say “peterbuilt” on the grill.

define you needs and wants, then discuss, I’m sure you’ll find a common ground. And a heavy duty bumper never hurts

I should add that while a lift and bigger tires might make i a little more likely to roll in a accident, it also allows cars to push under than though to the passenger compartment.

 

[TonkaTruck]

It’s totally a personal preference thing on the aesthetics. I personally think the 315s and the larger flares look great and totally change the stance and look of all the 4 doors.

The on pavement ride quality is great, I wouldn’t worry about that at all. I also wouldn’t worry about height. My 5’4” wife and 10-year old daughter have absolutely no issue getting in and out without any steps. My 90lb dog has no trouble jumping in the back either.

If you’re on the fence, I’d get it or you’ll regret it later.

 

[JohnnyBronco]

So the OBX has advanced 4wd with 4.27 gearing?

From personnel experience (my wife stole my Bronco), the Honeymoon won't end anytime soon. And a 4-door non-sas Bronco doesn't like right in its stock configuration.

You can get 4.27 but my take on build and price for 2024 is you can't get advanced 4wd with on.

 

[Seahund]

Hi all, just joined up hoping for some help. My wife has wanted a Bronco really bad since they were announced. We recently placed an order for an Outer Banks, since I felt that was close to what her use case was. We never offroad, except maybe the occasional trip up to a cabin (which our standard AWD SUV handles just fine). This will pretty much just be used for work commute and errands.

But now that it's soon to arrive, I'm finding out she wanted the Sasquatch package. But only for the looks, not out of any realistic off-road need. While I'd have concerns about noise/comfort/etc. on road, she's driven both and seems fine with it. She says she doesn't like the looks of the Outer Banks standard, she wants the bigger and beefier tires.

I don't want to push her to settle, but I also don't want her to hold off for a Sasquatch, paying a lot more money, and have regrets when the honeymoon period is over.

I've thought about pushing for aftermarket wheels, but not sure that's worth it after labor costs, voided warranty, mucked up gearing and speedometer, etc.

All that to say, hoping for any advice, personal experience, or ideas to help me out with advising her. Thanks!

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