Ride Shocks

[Papa Smurf]

They finished up my install today and so far, I’m pretty happy. Coming from the Hoss 3.0 WT, I was nervous of the ride quality. We went with the stock weight springs for both the front and back. They set me at a lift height of 3” rear and 3.25” front, expecting both to settle in with the Florida heat and humidity. I did not measure before height. Fail. My only concern now is that on the front passenger, at full droop, the reservoir hose comes dangerously close to my Icon tubular UCAs. Otherwise, the drive home was pretty smooth. To me, it resembled the Fox springs but with a little more control and balance. After a few more hundred miles, I’ll put on the 37s, spacers, and diff drop.

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[andersman02]

They finished up my install today and so far, I’m pretty happy. Coming from the Hoss 3.0 WT, I was nervous of the ride quality. We went with the stock weight springs for both the front and back. They set me at a lift height of 3” rear and 3.25” front, expecting both to settle in with the Florida heat and humidity. I did not measure before height. Fail. My only concern now is that on the front passenger, at full droop, the reservoir hose comes dangerously close to my Icon tubular UCAs. Otherwise, the drive home was pretty smooth. To me, it resembled the Fox springs but with a little more control and balance. After a few more hundred miles, I’ll put on the 37s, spacers, and diff drop.

Would you be able to measure the thread distance on the front and backs? Basically the amount of thread showing for the preload spacers. I'm looking hard at these vs kings but want pretty minimal lift, 1.5-2" in the front.

Having real world numbers would help!

 

[Papa Smurf]

Would you be able to measure the thread distance on the front and backs? Basically the amount of thread showing for the preload spacers. I'm looking hard at these vs kings but want pretty minimal lift, 1.5-2" in the front.

Having real world numbers would help!

I completely forgot to measure them yesterday. There are at the high end of the allowed variance though. After spending the weekend at Windrock breaking them in, I’m thrilled with these springs.

 

[andersman02]

There are at the high end of the allowed variance though. After spending the weekend at Windrock breaking them in, I’m thrilled with these springs.

Have you noticed them settling at all?
How is the ride compared to the hoss?

 

[ScLeCo]

My final verdict is that they are too firm. Ride quality is very subjective so take what I say as just that, some assholes opinion.

With about 400 pounds of gear in it doing 75mph + over dirt roads in Nevada they are great. Everywhere else at any other speed not so great.

I'm not a very articulate shock tuning expert so I don't have the knowledge or vocabulary to accurately express the nuance of my opinion.

When going over an especially bumpy section of rocky road I kept smacking my head against the B pillar. The side to side motion was so violent. It felt like the shocks weren't actually absorbing any of the bumps just transmitting them into the vehicle.

Doing some more technical trails over big rocks the shocks and springs just do not compress well hurting articulation and causing very scary body lean. Just watching vehicles with good suspension systems go over rocks and stay relatively flat while I felt like I was going to roll over sucks.

If you're going to spend the majority of your time on the street and or carry very heavy loads these are definitely the shocks for you. I guess if you're in the desert and only plan on high speed desert running then these also would work well in that environment. They suck pretty much everywhere else IMHO.

Pictured: The place where these shocks did the best, Bonneville.

Edit: This is at the SOFTEST SETTING of these "adjustable" shocks. Adjustable my ass. Adjustable from too FIRM to OMG what the fuck is this shit.

 

[SierraBronco]

Which spring rate did you get?

 

[ScLeCo]

Which spring rate did you get?

Weight range 1 front 550 lb/in , weight range 2 rear 275lb/in.

 

[mvilla]

Weight range 1 front 550 lb/in , weight range 2 rear 275lb/in.

I have the same setup and agree with everything you said. Going fast, they feel great. But as soon as you slow down, they are way too stiff.

Not sure if I can go to the lower weight range shock in the rear cause of the gear I run, so I’m wondering what the fix is. Let us know what you decide to do

 

[popo_patty]

Weight range 1 front 550 lb/in , weight range 2 rear 275lb/in.

That front spring rate is the same as my Kings at 550.

 

[SierraBronco]

Weight range 1 front 550 lb/in , weight range 2 rear 275lb/in.

That’s very interesting. We just swapped our coils out. They were 525 over 625 and felt way too soft. We were bottoming out easily. Went to 600 linear up front and left the back as dual rate to see how we like the front at 600. Don’t want to change too much at once

Compression is turned down?

 

[telenerd]

To me sounds like a valveing issue, incorrectly adjusted sag, or simply the wrong springs. Armchair analysis so what ever that is worth.

Too much rebound can also make a shock ride harsh and pack down after each bump. But I don’t think the shocks have an adjustment for that.

 

[SierraBronco]

To me sounds like a valveing issue, incorrectly adjusted sag, or simply the wrong springs. Armchair analysis so what ever that is worth.

Too much rebound can also make a shock ride harsh and pack down after each bump. But I don’t think the shocks have an adjustment for that.

For some reason I thought these had adjustable rebound but double checked and nope-only high and low speed compression. That was actually something I was kicking myself about and…now I guess I’m good!

 

[Papa Smurf]

My final verdict is that they are too firm. Ride quality is very subjective so take what I say as just that, some assholes opinion.

With about 400 pounds of gear in it doing 75mph + over dirt roads in Nevada they are great. Everywhere else at any other speed not so great.

I'm not a very articulate shock tuning expert so I don't have the knowledge or vocabulary to accurately express the nuance of my opinion.

When going over an especially bumpy section of rocky road I kept smacking my head against the B pillar. The side to side motion was so violent. It felt like the shocks weren't actually absorbing any of the bumps just transmitting them into the vehicle.

Doing some more technical trails over big rocks the shocks and springs just do not compress well hurting articulation and causing very scary body lean. Just watching vehicles with good suspension systems go over rocks and stay relatively flat while I felt like I was going to roll over sucks.

If you're going to spend the majority of your time on the street and or carry very heavy loads these are definitely the shocks for you. I guess if you're in the desert and only plan on high speed desert running then these also would work well in that environment. They suck pretty much everywhere else IMHO.

Pictured: The place where these shocks did the best, Bonneville.

Edit: This is at the SOFTEST SETTING of these "adjustable" shocks. Adjustable my ass. Adjustable from too FIRM to OMG what the fuck is this shit.

Man, I’m sorry that this has been your experience. For what little it’s worth, my experience has been completely different. Mine have been fairly plush from initial install. I’ve put over 2000 miles of city, highway, and mountain on my set. They’ve worked themselves into an enjoyable ride. Photo for comment tax.

 

[SierraBronco]

Man, I’m sorry that this has been your experience. For what little it’s worth, my experience has been completely different. Mine have been fairly plush from initial install. I’ve put over 2000 miles of city, highway, and mountain on my set. They’ve worked themselves into an enjoyable ride. Photo for comment tax.

Same spring rate?

 

[Papa Smurf]

Same spring rate?

Stock weight spring rate.

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