Ford Performance VS JB4 Tune

[Bevans86]

Seems everyone is getting the Ford Peformance Tune. Has anyone tried the JB4. TBH the JB4 looks better but the Ford Performance obviously keeps warranty. I believe the JB4 you can just unplug and there is no sign of it, so that seems good too.
Thoughts, comparisons?

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[Ducati1098]

I ran both for a while before switching to a custom tune.
JB4 first because it was more power, then added the FP tune mostly for the transmission tuning.

 

[ScLeCo]

I ran both for a while before switching to a custom tune.
JB4 first because it was more power, then added the FP tune mostly for the transmission tuning.

Huh, so you used both in conjunction without issue? I thought it was one or the other not both.

 

[Ducati1098]

Huh, so you used both in conjunction without issue? I thought it was one or the other not both.

Yep had them both in conjunction for a long time, never had any issues. Kept the JB4 on Map 3.

 

[Bevans86]

yea that is really interesting. I guess with the Pro Cal you can pick and choose changes.

 

[CarmeloS]

Yep had them both in conjunction for a long time, never had any issues. Kept the JB4 on Map 3.

Now you got my attention, since I'm basically FBO at this rate and want moar than the FPT offers

 

[LethalPerformance]

Both are great products. It really just comes down to what features you want.

JB4
https://www.lethalperformance.com/burger-motorsports-jb4-tuner-2021-ford-bronco-2-3l-2-7l.html
Plug and play and can easily be removed
Makes more HP/TQ than the FPP tune
Cool app and bluetooth so you can monitor real time parameters and datalog on your phone as well as change maps on the fly
No transmission tuning is offered with it
No powertrain/drivetrain warranty offered with it

FPP Procal
https://www.lethalperformance.com/f...ry-tool-2021-2024-bronco-2-3l-m-9603-b23.html
Full flash device that flashes both the PCM and TCM
Nice improvement in HP/TQ however it makes less HP/TQ than the JB4
Optimized shift schedule / transmission tuning
Ability to adjust for tire size/gear ratios
Datalogging and the ability to read and clear DTC codes is included
Ability to return the vehicle to stock
3/36 Warranty from Ford Performance included

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[B22-2023]

We have the JB4's and Procals on sale right now for Black Friday / Cyber Monday so feel free to give us a shout if you have any other questions or need help placing an order. We also have a gift card giveaway and a 2022 F150 giveaway going on right now so make sure not to miss out.
https://www.lethalperformance.com/info/teamlethal-f150-giveaway

[/QUOTE]
I have the JB4 from you guys and might add the ProCal just for the transmission functions. Meantime I have more about my BMS JB4 that is worth it to share:

1. Boost can be adjusted at the shift points - not a transmission tune but worth something.
2. They will read your uploaded logs and suggest changes, to help customize the tune to your vehicle.
3. There is an aggressive pedal function - I am testing this against my Pedal Commander
4. They now let you pre-program which tune to link to which GOAT mode you select
5. Very helpful customer service at Burger.

 

[adcam]

Can the AFE Scorcher be added with the FP tune?

 

[thegoatman]

How do you compare a piggy back to actually changing values in the ecm

 

[JerryG]

I run both. The JB4 makes considerably more power. They both do different things and are a good combination to run on a 2.3l but if you have a 2.7 I would just buy a custom tune.

 

[HighVelocity]

I'm liking that JB4 on the 2.3, especially for the manual. I'm like going to go with that instead of the Procal since Ford hates us self-shifters.

 

[JerryG]

Can the AFE Scorcher be added with the FP tune?

Any piggy back tuner will work with the FP tune.

 

[Brian_B]

A year ago - I'd have said FP tune, it has a trans tune for the auto tranny folks, and rev matching for those that aren't. And it included the ASS memory, which was a nice benefit. And something about a vague hint of warranty support, but I wouldn't ever hang my hat on that.

Today - ASS is out. Rev Matching is out. It's an inferior engine tune that happens to have a transmission tune for auto folks. Once you install it your digital record (Ford OASIS) lights up like a Christmas tree, so you can't claim ignorance and pretend you never installed it. I'd go JB4 all day long now.

 

[DrewBronc21]

I guess I will make sure not to update my FP tune so I don’t lose rev matching. I’ve grown to like it.

Does JB4 have the rev matching and ASS?

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