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Just out of curiosity; how does insurance handle situations like this? It is not a collision or an accident. If you went outside and took a sledgehammer to your Bronco, they would not pay for it. So in instances like this, off-roading where the operator (in the eyes of insurance) caused the damage....do they pay out?
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Just out of curiosity; how does insurance handle situations like this? It is not a collision or an accident. If you went outside and took a sledgehammer to your Bronco, they would not pay for it. So in instances like this, off-roading where the operator (in the eyes of insurance) caused the damage....do they pay out?
According to my insurance agent, collision would cover it. The fact it didn't happen on a road shouldn't matter, same as if he had hit a tree by the side of the road.
 

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Anyone who crawls with a std shift Bronco should read this thread. Being prepared for a similar situation is a big deal to prevent panic. Dumping the clutch in 1st gear and/or applying the parking brake would have at least slowed it down significantly. Engine would have rotated backwards but so what.
Also, A hand emergency brake would have been easier to use than the stupid electronic one.
All these computer controlled bells and whistles are not necessarily a good thing.
 

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I didn't see it mentioned anywhere in the thread so far, But if you were in 4Lo, The engine doesn't restart on it's own by design... The hill looks like you should have been in 4L...
 

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😲 Glad you are alright.
As @orion mentioned about the brake booster with no power, braking would be very hard even if it didn't bleed off vacuum.

Side note on the master cylinders w/electric booster, if you lose 1 brake line, it will empty the entire reservoir = no brakes. Found this out working on the garage thankfully.
 

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So I am no expert off roader, however, I would hardly say I'm green. This happened today and I am at a loss, possibly financially, but more importantly I don't know what actually went wrong. I have wheeled plenty of times in this Bronco since Aug 2022, I have been up this hill...successfully twice before...with plenty of witnesses🤣. I have been up many other hills, in fact this wasn't even the steepest today, as I had done a 39 degree hill earlier, this one was likely upper 20's, lower 30's. I have stalled the Bronco before, it's always restarted before and I've never lost brakes no matter at what angle and what grade. So I really have no idea what caused this. It stalled out around a 1:00 in and I lost power to everything. I did like everyone else yelling brakes, LOL! Tailgate is shot, bumper is shot, driver mirror also shot. It appears that the quarter panels and hardtop were unharmed.

Concerning repair, yes this is posted, either Ford or my insurance will cover it or they won't. If Ford won't I will try my insurance, if this is excluded from coverage, shame on me for not having this coverage, I will not commit insurance fraud in case anyone calls me stupid for posting this. My real aim is to figure out what went wrong. Total damage best I can figure is roughly $3000-4000. Oddly the real rip off is the side mirror based on my quick research.

Ford won’t cover it. It’s an insurance claim, if the insurance company thinks there is a case, they’ll go to Ford for a settlement.
 

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I didn't see it mentioned anywhere in the thread so far, But if you were in 4Lo, The engine doesn't restart on it's own by design... The hill looks like you should have been in 4L...
Mine does restart in 4L, but not if the vehicle is rolling at all, or if I leave it stalled in gear for more than a second or 2. It's really kinda unpredictable. This thread has been informative to me, because I have been in quite a few similar situations...but always came out ok!
 

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The amount of electronics in the Bronco are one of the things that terrify me. I had a run in with the electronic 4WD when I snapped a front axle shaft. Normally, in my Jeep, I'll keep it locked and 3 wheel drive the rest of the trail. In the Bronco the locker would engage but it wouldn't stay in 4WD.

I've also had instances (with an automatic) where I was climbing an aggressive hill and have bounced on or off of something which set the Bronco back and has no brakes for a second or 2.
 
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I didn't see it mentioned anywhere in the thread so far, But if you were in 4Lo, The engine doesn't restart on it's own by design... The hill looks like you should have been in 4L...
Yep, it was in 4Low, and I think I've been in those situations before, but it could be I've always been in 4H or maybe when I was in 4L, it's been level ground when I've installed it maybe. Ugh, I hate learning things this way.
 

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Somebody needs to develop a mechanical hand parking brake. The hood latch-looking electric parking is a total joke. I can never remember to push or pull the damn thing.
 

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Somebody needs to develop a mechanical hand parking brake. The hood latch-looking electric parking is a total joke. I can never remember to push or pull the damn thing.
Yeah agreed, I wonder if that would have worked had I gotten to pulling/setting it. It is weird it being an off road vehicle with power brakes that they don't have one.
 

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... I had both pedals pushed in, brake to well, you know brake and the clutch for the engine to restart, which it automatically does once the clutch is pushed.
When it started rolling back did you let off the clutch to to get the engine to hold? I can hear gear spinning whine sound which may just be because in four low. The 2.3L is so little displacement that it is fairly weak as far as engine braking goes so maybe the whine was the engine.
 

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Yep, it was in 4Low, and I think I've been in those situations before, but it could be I've always been in 4H or maybe when I was in 4L, it's been level ground when I've installed it maybe. Ugh, I hate learning things this way.
Well @Bmadda Says his does restart, And I trust him. Mine never has in numerous stalls, and I thought I read in the manual that it doesn't in 4Low, but I can't find anything in the manual that says that now, so don't take my word for it.
 

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Glad you’re okay. Thanks for sharing. Wish your Bronco a speedy recovery. 🫂 🤗
 

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Ah. You were in 1st? Are you certain? If you see my earlier post - I had nearly this same thing happen once - but, I was in crawler.
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