74Weld Bronco Portals now available!

[userdude]

I'm not able to spend on these, but with the new prices and changes for 2024 the closest build to my 2 door base Sasquatch manual is now $20k more than the $37K I spent. A BL with no Sasquatch is $16k more, but still need wheels and tires, which you would upgrade to the 40" -42", so this upgrade would be comparable price wise to buying a 2024.

From that point of view, it's a deal... if you have a PP bronco.

Hmmm.

Yeah, I think the additional cost is eye-popping until you look at the Raptor and WildTrak price points, especially in 2024. If I do the triplet (portals, stage 3 rack and 37's on Icon pros), that's $87k if we include ttl. IMO opinion, it's a poor man's 2dr Raptor (even though I have the 2.3L w/procal , and it's not like that's cheap).

I wonder if they'll come down over time (at least some), or go up? I suspect they'll get more expensive, since there's a big constraint on production volume (time on the machines and the gears/bearing packs). If they produce the 100 in spring Quinn's talked about, and they sell out in a few months, interesting to see what he does from that point. I suspect they could be $25k in a year or two, but maybe they'll get cheaper...

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[5GENIDN]

Yeah, I think the additional cost is eye-popping until you look at the Raptor and WildTrak price points, especially in 2024. If I do the triplet (portals, stage 3 rack and 37's on Icon pros), that's $87k if we include ttl. IMO opinion, it's a poor man's 2dr Raptor (even though I have the 2.3L w/procal , and it's not like that's cheap).

I wonder if they'll come down over time (at least some), or go up? I suspect they'll get more expensive, since there's a big constraint on production volume (time on the machines and the gears/bearing packs). If they produce the 100 in spring Quinn's talked about, and they sell out in a few months, interesting to see what he does from that point. I suspect they could be $25k in a year or two, but maybe they'll get cheaper...

I disagree with the "poor mans Rapter".... They are set up entirely differently. the Rapter is set up for high speed desert running. Not this. This set up is for the rocks and trails. While each would be decent at what the other is doing, each one has its specialty and is better for its specific use.

 

[5GENIDN]

Yeah, I think the additional cost is eye-popping until you look at the Raptor and WildTrak price points, especially in 2024. If I do the triplet (portals, stage 3 rack and 37's on Icon pros), that's $87k if we include ttl. IMO opinion, it's a poor man's 2dr Raptor (even though I have the 2.3L w/procal , and it's not like that's cheap).

I wonder if they'll come down over time (at least some), or go up? I suspect they'll get more expensive, since there's a big constraint on production volume (time on the machines and the gears/bearing packs). If they produce the 100 in spring Quinn's talked about, and they sell out in a few months, interesting to see what he does from that point. I suspect they could be $25k in a year or two, but maybe they'll get cheaper...

Werewolf portals are $16,000.00... they are cast iron and DO NOT replace the knuckle. They also add about 5 inches per side as opposed to 3.5 and they provide 5.1 inches lift as opposed to 3.88. Also their gear reduction is a little over 1.3 as opposed to 74 Welds 1.22. Matrix in Bend OR is a new US distributer.

BB is offering the Tibus at $25,000.00... They are running a helical 3 gear set up. I personally prefer the straight cut 4 gear that Weld and Werewolf are running. There are options.... I was leaning toward the Werewolf until 74 Weld was offered. For the little bit more (16000 to 20000) I much prefer the 74 weld product.

 

[userdude]

I disagree with the "poor mans Rapter".... They are set up entirely differently. the Rapter is set up for high speed desert running. Not this. This set up is for the rocks and trails. While each would be decent at what the other is doing, each one has its specialty and is better for its specific use.

Yes, I realize that's sounds kinda harebrained considering I have a Badlands. Poor man's Tremor? (I don't know that much about that model truck...) What I meant was with the price point all-in, it's similarly capable in the sense that I can do a lot more than the stock Badlands Sas, and it has a similar stance (7" wider). I have never wanted a desert racer, so never wanted a Raptor.

If you did want a "poor man's 2dr Raptor", you could do worse than a WildTrak with portals and 37's. Since there will never be a 2dr Raptor, I would guess this is the closest you could get to a stock 2dr Raptor build and would come in very similar in price. Again, not a desert racer guy, so maybe this is just too much for someone as ignorant as I am on what this statement means.

Moving on, rather not go off on a tangent about this.

 

[Tor148]

Maybe...I don't remember, but either way I wouldn't count on a 16" wheel fitting. I'm just a tad concerned that the stock sas wheel may be a little too tight. I never did ask if they tried it, but since their test mule is a Wildtrak I assumed they did. I just asked if I can use my stock squatch wheels and he said "ya should work fine". I'm gonna mock up 1 assy...or 1 front and 1 rear to check before I do the full install. If it wont work I will have to go a different direction

If you get your order first, please let us know. My plan was to keep my stock FE rims, Quinn told me it would be no problem. If not, i am going to have to scramble for rims. Just not a fan of what is out there. Definitely leaning towards bead locks.

 

[5GENIDN]

If you get your order first, please let us know. My plan was to keep my stock FE rims, Quinn told me it would be no problem. If not, i am going to have to scramble for rims. Just not a fan of what is out there. Definitely leaning towards bead locks.

Please correct me if I am wrong... but all the stock SAS wheels are 17 x 8.5.... Which works with the weld portals. 16" will not work because they have to replace the rotors with ever so slightly larger rotors because of the caliper needing to be pushed out just slightly to mount on the portal.

 

[5GENIDN]

Yes, I realize that's sounds kinda harebrained considering I have a Badlands. Poor man's Tremor? (I don't know that much about that model truck...) What I meant was with the price point all-in, it's similarly capable in the sense that I can do a lot more than the stock Badlands Sas, and it has a similar stance (7" wider). I have never wanted a desert racer, so never wanted a Raptor.

If you did want a "poor man's 2dr Raptor", you could do worse than a WildTrak with portals and 37's. Since there will never be a 2dr Raptor, I would guess this is the closest you could get to a stock 2dr Raptor build and would come in very similar in price. Again, not a desert racer guy, so maybe this is just too much for someone as ignorant as I am on what this statement means.

Moving on, rather not go off on a tangent about this.

Personally, for my type of wheeling, I think the end result will be better than a Raptor. The fact that that the end result will cost a little less means nothing to me. If they were both sitting on the lot at the exact same price this is the one I would choose... Just fits what I want to do with it.

 

[Bmadda]

If you get your order first, please let us know. My plan was to keep my stock FE rims, Quinn told me it would be no problem. If not, i am going to have to scramble for rims. Just not a fan of what is out there. Definitely leaning towards bead locks.

Most definitely will! I also prefer the squatch wheels to virtually all aftermarket offerings, and ABSOLUTELY will not give up the beadlocks! W/so many lightly used takeoffs available out there, its easy to keep multiple sizes mounted/balanced and ready to go! I am relatively sure the wheel itself will fit fine, but balancing a 40 is gonna take some serious stacks of lead...thats where I think I may have issues. Pretty sure I can make it work somehow tho! Not to hijack this thread any further, but I got shipping confirmation on my bumper/swingaway combo also...I had assumed they have to build them, but they must have had a few ready to go!

 

[Tor148]

Most definitely will! I also prefer the squatch wheels to virtually all aftermarket offerings, and ABSOLUTELY will not give up the beadlocks! W/so many lightly used takeoffs available out there, its easy to keep multiple sizes mounted/balanced and ready to go! I am relatively sure the wheel itself will fit fine, but balancing a 40 is gonna take some serious stacks of lead...thats where I think I may have issues. Pretty sure I can make it work somehow tho! Not to hijack this thread any further, but I got shipping confirmation on my bumper/swingaway combo also...I had assumed they have to build them, but they must have had a few ready to go!

Have you seen this?
https://www.centramatic.com/wheel-balance.rhtml?type=Light-Duty
They have it for small planes propellers, motorcycle, trucks and big rigs.
For 250.00 i would think it would be worth a shot.
The labeled for a Jeep 6x 5.5 should fit then no worries on balancing!
But it does seam to good to be true.

 

[Bmadda]

Have you seen this?
https://www.centramatic.com/wheel-balance.rhtml?type=Light-Duty
They have it for small planes propellers, motorcycle, trucks and big rigs.
For 250.00 i would think it would be worth a shot.
The labeled for a Jeep 6x 5.5 should fit then no worries on balancing!
But it does seam to good to be true.

Snake oil.

 

[Arrowbear Rider]

Most definitely will! I also prefer the squatch wheels to virtually all aftermarket offerings, and ABSOLUTELY will not give up the beadlocks! W/so many lightly used takeoffs available out there, its easy to keep multiple sizes mounted/balanced and ready to go! I am relatively sure the wheel itself will fit fine, but balancing a 40 is gonna take some serious stacks of lead...thats where I think I may have issues. Pretty sure I can make it work somehow tho! Not to hijack this thread any further, but I got shipping confirmation on my bumper/swingaway combo also...I had assumed they have to build them, but they must have had a few ready to go!

I look forward to seeing the new parts, especially the portals and tires at the next Safari. As far off as it is, you better get cracken because it'll come faster than we think, especially for you since you have to wait on parts. It always seems to go that way, you have months and then wham it's here.

 

[BAUS67]

More portal action from Quinn.

 

[LanceIto]

$20K then I have buy 40s. Come on!!! drop the price for us mere mortals.

 

[Snacktime]

$20K then I have buy 40s. Come on!!! drop the price for us mere mortals.

Portals where never going to be a main stream product, very much a high end option. It's in the same realm as going solid axles and full custom suspension. Even spicer has set the price for aftermarket front differential in the out of reach for normal people.

If you're looking at portals you should already have tires, billet steering rack and full coilovers. This is at least another $10k on top of the $20-25k for portals.

 

[userdude]

Portals where never going to be a main stream product, very much a high end option. It's in the same realm as going solid axles and full custom suspension. Even spicer has set the price for aftermarket front differential in the out of reach for normal people.

If you're looking at portals you should already have tires, billet steering rack and full coilovers. This is at least another $10k on top of the $20-25k for portals.

Now Quinn has said repeatedly "bone stock" is all you need. I for one won't have the cash to go that route until probably 18m after I can afford to buy them. And for that I was planning on 37's (Wildpeaks or Baja Bosses), 74Weld stage 3 and the upgraded Bilsteins. In that order, I think?

The only question I have is, do you think the billet steering rack is that crucial to running them at all (i.e. stresses on the steering) if you run stock Sas 35s and maybe don't get too rough off road until the steering is upgraded?

I get why I'd want stage 3 off road, since you get them to go into more difficult terrain where tire binds are more likely. Just checking there isn't something else there.

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