2.7 oil pump belt failed at 254,577 mi (Reddit post)

[SoDak1623]

It’s been 2 hours and nobody has suggested a coyote swap yet.

Lol, except the 5.0 also uses a wet belt. Only the 2.3 doesn't use a wet belt and instead is gear driven off the crank. (At least the old 2.3 was, I cannot speak for the new 2.3 MPC)

Not that it matters either way. A failure at over 250k isn't really big news.

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[raptorusmaximus]

I think what bothers me about something like this is that you have to pull the engine to access it. ANY belt will fail unlike a gear driven system, this should of been designed as a something that could be checked and replaced as it wears out.
This is another example of saving a dollar per engine by using a belt instead of a gear all the while while promoting planned obsolescence.

 

[Notmattwong]

Lol, except the 5.0 also uses a wet belt. Only the 2.3 doesn't use a wet belt and instead is gear driven off the crank. (At least the old 2.3 was, I cannot speak for the new 2.3 MPC)

Not that it matters either way. A failure at over 250k isn't really big news.

I was more making a jab at all the people obsessed with throwing a v8 into a bronco. I’ve personally got the mpc 2.3l so I don’t have a dog in this fight.

 

[SoDak1623]

I was more making a jab at all the people obsessed with throwing a v8 into a bronco. I’ve personally got the mpc 2.3l so I don’t have a dog in this fight.

Oh I get that, I'm usually a vocal critic in the weekly V8 obsession threads

 

[SoDak1623]

I think what bothers me about something like this is that you have to pull the engine to access it. ANY belt will fail unlike a gear driven system, this should of been designed as a something that could be checked and replaced as it wears out.
This is another example of saving a dollar per engine by using a belt instead of a gear all the while while promoting planned obsolescence.

Unfortunately that production mindset is driven by the consumer. When most buyers don't care at all about the workings of their car and just need a cool looking appliance that will get them from A-B for 3-5 years before they trade it off for the next model, then that is what the manufacturers will cater to. Those of us in the minority who plan to keep our vehicles as long as possible are not their target market so compromises are made.

 

[Ducati1098]

I think what bothers me about something like this is that you have to pull the engine to access it.

This is not necessarily true.
While it is the way Ford says to do it, the engine does not need to be removed if you know what you’re doing.

 

[Felix808]

This is not necessarily true.
While it is the way Ford says to do it, the engine does not need to be removed if you know what you’re doing.

Well this sounds promising .
At 250K+ miles I would have thought to have a timing job done and the oil pump belt replaced during that service at about 100K miles earlier as well, but says this is all he's done "One Oil pan. Spark plugs. Fourth set of tires. Lost track on windshields…Maybe 5 best guess."

 

[_lariat]

Ive got mixed emotions on this.

On one hand, i think belts on important internal components isnt something id go for.

On the other hand, this is a good show that theyre not really a large concern.

Would be a prime vehicle to install a lower mile salvage yard engine/trans into! Did something similar for a customer on his 19 f250 that the original CP4 failed on with at 430k miles. It needed a re-seal as well. 90k salvage yard engine/trans R&R was within $1k of our quote for fuel system and re-seal on the 430k unit and not touching the trans. Plus the customer got a 90 day warranty!

 

[McRightclick]

Lol, except the 5.0 also uses a wet belt. Only the 2.3 doesn't use a wet belt and instead is gear driven off the crank. (At least the old 2.3 was, I cannot speak for the new 2.3 MPC)

Not that it matters either way. A failure at over 250k isn't really big news.

The Ford parts website for the 2.3 MPC appears to show the same integral gear on the crank, so I would assume it kept that system:

 

[TrailDamage]

The Ford parts website for the 2.3 MPC appears to show the same integral gear on the crank, so I would assume it kept that system:

Correct it still uses a balance shaft assembly that also has the oil pump inside.

 

[GoHawks63]

Well this sounds promising .
At 250K+ miles I would have thought to have a timing job done and the oil pump belt replaced during that service at about 100K miles earlier as well, but says this is all he's done "One Oil pan. Spark plugs. Fourth set of tires. Lost track on windshields…Maybe 5 best guess."

Both the 2.3L and 2.7L use timing chains, not belts.

 

[Ducati1098]

Both the 2.3L and 2.7L use timing chains, not belts.

I don’t think he was implying either use timing belts

 

[crzyhawk]

If I had a 2.7, a major repair at 254k miles would not scare me away.

 

[raptorusmaximus]

This is not necessarily true.
While it is the way Ford says to do it, the engine does not need to be removed if you know what you’re doing.

Wow, I'm soooo bringing my truck to you when the time comes lol...... I'm sure most techs will go by the book though...
I've got 220k on my gen 1 raptor with no plans to ditch it, I plan on keeping my BR for the foreseeable future as well..... to be honest, it's the complexity of the computerization that scare me the most with regards to long term ownership.

 

[heavyD]

If I had a 2.7, a major repair at 254k miles would not scare me away.

A large portion of the CUV and compact segment is using CVT's that are practically throw away at 150k miles and people are worried about a small chance of oil pump belt failure at over 250k miles? People are so weird when it comes to worrying about how long their drivetrain will last like they are all ticking timebombs. Just drive your Bronco and enjoy the ride.

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