Ford Snitching to the Cops

[BearPatrol]

I'm against Ford even keeping constant records of how I use my vehicle outside of what the service shops report... BUT this site is pretty ridiculous. I wouldn't take anything from there as actual news. Great example of how media literacy is failing us.

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[crenca]

I'm against Ford even keeping constant records of how I use my vehicle outside of what the service shops report... BUT this site is pretty ridiculous. I wouldn't take anything from there as actual news. Great example of how media literacy is failing us.

I agree Car and Driver ain't what it used to be, but "fake news"??

 

[raptorusmaximus]

I think it's only a matter of time before you're vehicle will track your driving and report. There's too much money to be made by the car manufacturers and insurance companies.

 

[HoosierSquatch]

I think it's only a matter of time before you're vehicle will track your driving and report. There's too much money to be made by the car manufacturers and insurance companies.

yeah, insurance companies already integrating this. When my son started driving, SF offered a discount if we put a module in his truck to measure acceleration, breaking, etc. They said it won’t increase your rates, only help if he’s a responsible. Ha, yeah right, get lost.

 

[Bikeric]

Looks like I'll have to adjust my tire circumference via FORScan back to the factory settings.

 

[DarthLincoln]

Based on that flow chart alone, talking about pursuit engagement and status, it looks very much like a potential system that could be installed on Ford police vehicles, not for use on general public vehicles.
The headline sounds like a dramatic exaggeration.

edit: yup

 

[Bruzer22]

I guess it makes for interesting, or paranoid, discussion but the article is almost a year old?

 

[dpAtlanta]

Based on that flow chart alone, talking about pursuit engagement and status, it looks very much like a potential system that could be installed on Ford police vehicles, not for use on general public vehicles.
The headline sounds like a dramatic exaggeration.

Looks like Chuck may have Forensically uncovered the "rest of the story".

Now that make sense................ the scare tactic headline was probably there for hits/likes/advertisers $$$$.
Time will tell.

Note to self............ avoid the "Blaze". It's spin!

If the headline would have read:
"Big Brother Ford awarded patent to snitch for cops when you speed" instead of "Big Brother Ford awarded patent to snitch to cops when you speed" , we would probably not have gone down this path.
I will not be reading "news" from the Blaze... because it may not be accurate!

 

[broncobase1]

There was a big to do about GM doing this a number of years ago. If one manufacture is doing it they are all doing it. From what I've heard a court order is needed to access the data. I'm all for it for accident investigating.

 

[dpAtlanta]

From what I've heard a court order is needed to access the data. I'm all for it for accident investigating.

A Court Order is required for Police to access the data. It is usually done based on the severity of the accident/injuries.
I have downloaded EDR data, and I only need permission from the vehicle owner, or Insurance co., or Counsel for the driver.

 

[userdude]

A Court Order is required for Police to access the data. It is usually done based on the severity of the accident/injuries.
I have downloaded EDR data, and I only need permission from the vehicle owner, or Insurance co., or Counsel for the driver.

Gov't agencies can purchase third party data and it's generally not considered needing a warrant. If Ford were collecting data to sell to data brokers, then it could conceivably be leveraged by the gov't or other entities we'd prefer not to.

However, I tend to agree this is being overblown. For one, it's a patent, not a product. For another, I don't honestly think most jurisdictions care if the vast majority of us speed. So I don't know there's a terrible will there. And c'mon, who truly speeds around a marked police officer?

This may end up being a pocket patent that goes nowhere. In the end, though, if it's picked up, it'll be by those jurisdictions that already push ticketing pretty hard, and this is kind've an absurd way to manage that. Maybe less so than flying planes with radar detectors, which is done but not widely.

 

[dpAtlanta]

Gov't agencies can purchase third party data and it's generally not considered needing a warrant. If Ford were collecting data to sell to data brokers, then it could conceivably be leveraged by the gov't or other entities we'd prefer not to.

Maybe I should have elaborated a bit more.
Police regularly download the EDR data from fatal crashes. They always leave the court order warrant in the passenger's floorboard after they get the data.
This is the EDR data which records speed/braking/steering/ect five seconds prior to the airbags being deployed.
It is done for Crash Reconstruction purposes.

 

[HoosierSquatch]

 

[BlueWaffle]

Ford has historically been a bit of a boot licking company.


At least it's not Nazi boots anymore though

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