PPE & Mishimoto Transmission Pan Comparison

[CarbonSteel]

I received two 10R80/10R60 transmissions pans for Christmas gifts and while I had both I wanted to do a small comparison video between the two.

Happy to answer any questions you may have. Enjoy!



@hotrodtim

I wanted to add a note to this. For the PPE deep pan (this could be why Mishimoto includes new studs with their pan), you have to replace the rear studs with bolts.

On the rear of the PPE deep pan, the stud heads will dig into the body of the pan before they contact the flange which will lead to leaks. I bought new bolts from Ford and used them everywhere (e.g. I did not use any studs). As near as I can tell, on the Bronco, the studs serve no purpose anyway.

Note the images below that clearly show how the stud heads dig into the pan body and never come into contact with the pan flange. Given the tight quarters--you WILL NOT know this unless you remove the pan, mine leaked, but it took a while and that is how I discovered the issue. The studs tighten normally, but they do not contact the pan flange.

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[redone17]

Thanks for putting this together. You should share it on the Ranger forums - or I will if you don’t mind. It’s a hot topic over there.

I personally went with the PPE shallow version myself. Which I think that’s what yours is too.

I should get around to installing it in the next few weeks. I’m at about 36k right now.

 

[CarbonSteel]

Thanks for putting this together. You should share it on the Ranger forums - or I will if you don’t mind. It’s a hot topic over there.

I personally went with the PPE shallow version myself. Which I think that’s what yours is too.

I should get around to installing it in the next few weeks. I’m at about 36k right now.

Please do, happy to help.

Both the pans I reviewed are the deep versions (+1.75QTs for the PPE and +2.0QTs for the Mishimoto).

I have the Mishimoto for sale in the forum here.

 

[redone17]

Ah, right. Shallow is only about 3/4 qt more than stock.

 

[Kevin Scarbel]

I like the PPE overall, but like the Mishimoto's o-ring mounting design.

 

[swamp2]

PPE was wonderful to work with on my Raptor pan fitment, as I was the first. Mishi wouldn't bother returning calls or emails, despite having a special program for freebies when bed fitments are verified.

 

[Kevin Scarbel]

PPE was wonderful to work with on my Raptor pan fitment, as I was the first. Mishi wouldn't bother returning calls or emails, despite having a special program for freebies when bed fitments are verified.

Does PPE include a gasket ?

 

[swamp2]

Does PPE include a gasket ?

No. Gasket is reusable, though.

 

[CarbonSteel]

I like the PPE overall, but like the Mishimoto's o-ring mounting design.

I am the opposite. Nothing wrong with the Mishimoto pan, but you are "bound to them" for o-ring replacements, whereas the PPE pan uses the OEM gasket (which is not only reusable, but readily available).

 

[Kevin Scarbel]

I am the opposite. Nothing wrong with the Mishimoto pan, but you are "bound to them" for o-ring replacements, whereas the PPE pan uses the OEM gasket (which is not only reusable, but readily available).

I'm a commercial truck engineer. I myself have had good experience with o-ring covers on transmissions, carriers and engines. But you have good points.

 

[swamp2]

I'm a commercial truck engineer.

Cool. What do you do? I'm a (recovering) Mechanical Engineer, but also changed professions long ago.

 

[Kevin Scarbel]

Cool. What do you do? I'm a (recovering) Mechanical Engineer, but also changed professions long ago.

Light, medium but principally heavy trucks.

 

[swamp2]

Light, medium but principally heavy trucks.

A specialty, engine, chassis, suspension, NVH, etc.?

 

[Kevin Scarbel]

A specialty, engine, chassis, suspension, NVH, etc.?

Bumper to taillights. Involved from concept to production, because of my broad background. It was a unique situation. I traveled the world and attended the IAA show in Hanover, Germany held every 2 years. It takes you 3 days minimum to see everything. Huge show.

 

[swamp2]

Bumper to taillights. Involved from concept to production, because of my broad background.

Very cool! Thanks for sharing.

I did Mountain Bike design, testing and manufacturing engineering then later high accuracy force and pressure transducer design. Freightliner was a good customer of mine when I moved to software and we provided them with predictive NVH modeling tools. A cool company.

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