Ford will ship Broncos without chips controlling non-safety critical features

[mcinfantry]

Ford dealers who attended a make meeting told Automotive News they did not expect new stock allocations until the end of May due to production cuts, although Ford spokesman Said Deep said the company continues “building for both retail and stock.”

i read that as no complete dealer stock units will be built, until may

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[Deleted member 21681]

Someone’s going to love you moduleless Bronco!! Honestly though I wonder if you refuse delivery if you have to go to the back of the line because I think they’ll just sell it with big ole adm to someone else…

I’m not scheduled, I don’t have a vin. If this ends up being an unattractive deal, I’ll 99. And if the deal doesn’t work out at all, and the next guy ends up with a different notion of bad deal and jumps on it… cool. Knowing the value of my money makes me pretty FOMO-proof. Plenty of other good options, including those in the future. I’m very happy to win by not losing.

 

[st3v]

Even with the 2022 C8 Corvette, Chevy was doing this exact same thing (remove feature and dealer installs later).

 

[Puddle Jumper]

I have no problem with this As a long as Ford and the dealership meet the following
1) they disclosed this to the purchaser
2) the vehicle is sold at a HUGE discount
3) Ford gives people the option to reorder their Bronco's if they've been sitting on dirt/snow mountain for they last year or so rotting

You have a 100% chance of #1 happening but count on a 0% of #2-#3 happening.

 

[Plala]

Ship it.
Honestly some of y’all act like you have power in this situation. You don’t. You can take delivery when it arrives or not. You’re not getting a deal on the price, you’re not getting free oil changes for life, you’re not getting free service beyond the warranty. You can take you bronco or say no and they will sell it to someone else. The dealerships don’t GAF about you. The minute you say no, they’re gonna slap an adm on that baby and sell it to someone who will happily bring it in for module install when they arrive. They will get warranty money from Ford when they install the chips. It’s a win win for ford and the dealerships. It’s non-safety related features so they’re gonna deliver them. They’re getting on a train or a truck and heading out to be sold to you or someone else. You have no power and no one at Ford cares. Period.

So much complaining. Y’all sound like a bunch of latte liberal Prius drivers. Wah wah wah Take your bronco or not. If mine comes in and it’s got an engine and driver’s seat and a steering wheel I am signing on the dotted line and driving that bitch from Dallas to Vegas where I live now. I am NOT getting back in line for this shit.

 

[adrencg]

Just wait till you get to replace your starter AND ring gear on your steed just after the precious warranty expires! You get to pull the engine or drop the trans (and most likely get a new ring gear as well) to fix all the unnecessary wear!

not to mention leaving you stranded when it fails!

Remember extended cranking wears out the electric internals of the starter motor by overheating, BUT thousands of starts causes extreme wear to the ring gear, and starter gear INSTEAD!

Hahaha this far exceeds a fuel savings you thought you were getting with your favorite eco gimmick!

How stupid of a design! The least the manufacturer could do is bathe the starter nose and ring gear in oil!

As someone who worked on engines a lot before cars became computerized, the first thought that popped into my head when seeing a car that shuts off the engine every time it stops was, "that's going to be murder on the starter. "

Now that I own a car that does that, I find it a little annoying to not be able to go instantly when stepping on the gas.

 

[30snack]

Ship it.
Honestly some of y’all act like you have power in this situation. You don’t. You can take delivery when it arrives or not. You’re not getting a deal on the price, you’re not getting free oil changes for life, you’re not getting free service beyond the warranty. You can take you bronco or say no and they will sell it to someone else. The dealerships don’t GAF about you. The minute you say no, they’re gonna slap an adm on that baby and sell it to someone who will happily bring it in for module install when they arrive. They will get warranty money from Ford when they install the chips. It’s a win win for ford and the dealerships. It’s non-safety related features so they’re gonna deliver them. They’re getting on a train or a truck and heading out to be sold to you or someone else. You have no power and no one at Ford cares. Period.

So much complaining. Y’all sound like a bunch of latte liberal Prius drivers. Wah wah wah Take your bronco or not. If mine comes in and it’s got an engine and driver’s seat and a steering wheel I am signing on the dotted line and driving that bitch from Dallas to Vegas where I live now. I am NOT getting back in line for this shit.

 

[North7]

The title of this thread is misleading. Unless the OP has a link that mentions Bronco, I have not seen any reference specific to Bronco for this.

Post #1 updated for those who did not read the entire article:

 

[techdisaster]

Ship it.
Honestly some of y’all act like you have power in this situation. You don’t. You can take delivery when it arrives or not. You’re not getting a deal on the price, you’re not getting free oil changes for life, you’re not getting free service beyond the warranty. You can take you bronco or say no and they will sell it to someone else. The dealerships don’t GAF about you. The minute you say no, they’re gonna slap an adm on that baby and sell it to someone who will happily bring it in for module install when they arrive. They will get warranty money from Ford when they install the chips. It’s a win win for ford and the dealerships. It’s non-safety related features so they’re gonna deliver them. They’re getting on a train or a truck and heading out to be sold to you or someone else. You have no power and no one at Ford cares. Period.

So much complaining. Y’all sound like a bunch of latte liberal Prius drivers. Wah wah wah Take your bronco or not. If mine comes in and it’s got an engine and driver’s seat and a steering wheel I am signing on the dotted line and driving that bitch from Dallas to Vegas where I live now. I am NOT getting back in line for this shit.

Walking away is power. The person I’m protecting is myself, and sometimes the only way to win is not play the game.

So what if my unfinished Bronco goes to someone else with ADM? They can make the gamble I won’t. I have a perfectly working car right now. Why would I want to trade down for a lot more money?

 

[Plala]

Walking away is power. The person I’m protecting is myself, and sometimes the only way to win is not play the game.

So what if my unfinished Bronco goes to someone else with ADM? They can make the gamble I won’t. I have a perfectly working car right now. Why would I want to trade down for a lot more money?

Walking away is your choice. That’s what I’m saying. Take it when it arrives or leave it.

 

[Bmadda]

SHIP THE DAMN THINGS!

 

[ab_slack]

There are many things I would gladly sacrifice but I suspect most would be deemed "safety critical". Auto start/stop gunner for sure. All the cell network data connectivity related and over the air updating I wouldn't miss and rather not have. GOAT modes I could do without as long as one had control to switch into the different transfer case and locker selections. I would be fine with non back-up camera. I would be absolutely fine without backup and side warning sensors. I am fine without emergency auto breaking. I am fine without nannies reminding me about seatbelts. I would also be fine without traction control and fine without any stability assist features. Heck I would go as far to say I rather not have antilock brakes. And when it comes down to it, I probably wouldn't miss air bags.

 

[Puddle Jumper]

The only plus to this might be some negotiating power with the dealer on MSRP! Maybe some ford points, anything to satisfy ford customers.

It’s not the dealers fault at all! Customer Satisfaction funds may be extended. That IS funded by Ford. But asking your dealer to make price concessions is likely not going to happen. Ford doesn’t OWN the dealership. They own the trademark. It’s still a franchise that depends on the sale of the products it stocks. No delivered units means no profit for the dealer, obviously. As someone who works for a Ford dealership, I can tell you it is just as frustrating for us to not have answers or know when the situation is going to get better. We all want our Bronco, but this has been tough, and will likely be a tougher road ahead.

 

[North7]

The title of this thread is misleading. Unless the OP has a link that mentions Bronco, I have not seen any reference specific to Bronco for this.

For those who did not read the entire article at the links I provided, here is another highlight.

The automaker has been attempting to find ways to ease the glut of unfinished vehicles piling up on lots around its manufacturing plants.

Most recently, what appeared to be hundreds if not thousands of Broncos were piling up in Michigan. Ford said the backlog was chip-related.

I believe the first quote summarizes ICE Mountain very nicely.

 

[Squatch]

All the silicon wafers for the next year are already spoken for/paid for too, so it's gonna be a minute. Also, the two Ukrainian companies that export an estimated 50% of the global high-purity Neon for chip production have halted exports.

This would be a great time to switch away from the hyper-connected vehicle electronics that will tattle on you or Ford will, and has, release the collected information to the authorities. I don't see that happening, so it's going to be at least two years before this gets better.

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