New OEM SAS Tire?

[rdg04578]

Doubt you'll see any dramatic change in the construction--since they are OEM tires--where ride, noise, and rolling resistance matters--- though the tread pattern may change to stock tires are still the same ole sheep in sheep's clothing

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Doubt you'll see any dramatic change in the construction--since they are OEM tires--where ride, noise, and rolling resistance matters--- though the tread pattern may change to stock tires are still the same ole sheep in sheep's clothing

Agree, OEM and aftermarket tires have very different design goals. The factory tire needs to be extremely light and low rolling resistance for MPG. It needs to be extremely soft and quiet so it doesn’t scare anyone during a test drive.

 

[Hemisfear]

Goodyear redesigned the Territory tread. Less siping than the previous version. Here's the old version, new version and another brand side by side

That would be the Wrangler Territory RT...

 

[Dodoandduck]

Not according to Goodyear.

 

[PetePerkins]

Goodyear redesigned the Territory tread. Less siping than the previous version. Here's the old version, new version and another brand side by side

If the center is the new Territory, it has way more siping than previous version

 

[Dodoandduck]

If the center is the new Territory, it has way more siping than previous version

The center is the old version. Right is new version. Left is Arturo Trail Blade xt

 

[Kevin Scarbel]

The center is the old version. Right is new version. Left is Arturo Trail Blade xt

A 2024 Tacoma owner says the RT (far right) hydroplanes. I can certainly imagine that, with the wider blocks....fewer ways for on-road water to disperse.
I wouldn't use the terms old and new version, as it appears that Goodyear is offering both the MT and RT.
I myself, with two trucks, never felt the MT's were loud to begin with.
Now, if Ford wants to add more sound deadening material for MY2025 to better compete, that's another story, a low-cost play and fine with me.

Attention Bronco Brand Manager Jason Hyde: Goodyear Territory MT versus RT, I with two Broncos prefer the Goodyear Territory MT.
Hear your customer!
I'm ordering another unit.....give me a choice!

 

[Kevin Scarbel]

The Stroppe media announcement* says it comes with the Territory RT. However look at the spare tire at 4:14......I say that's an MT.

Note the front tires at 4:24. I say they are MTs.....not RTs.

Hmm.

* https://media.ford.com/content/ford...-special-edition-honors-the-original-baj.html

 

[Kevin Scarbel]

This truck has completely different tires, alike what we see in the Freewheeling photo.

I don't care for these new tires at all. Our forum member suggested the new SAS tire is one thing, while this Stroppe Ford info shows an entirely different tread.

I myself always try to becrystal clear with my customers about car and truck spec changes, while having some proposed design/spec changes cancelled that the R&D center didn't realize that my customers don't want.

Bronco Brand Manager Jason Hyde, may I please opt for the traditional, proven and customer-satisfying Territory MTs ?
.

 

[Ducati1098]

A 2024 Tacoma owner says the RT (far right) hydroplanes. I can certainly imagine that, with the wider blocks....fewer ways for on-road water to disperse.
I wouldn't use the terms old and new version, as it appears that Goodyear is offering both the MT and RT.
I myself, with two trucks, never felt the MT's were loud to begin with.
Now, if Ford wants to add more sound deadening material for MY2025 to better compete, that's another story, a low-cost play and fine with me.

Attention Bronco Brand Manager Jason Hyde: Goodyear Territory MT versus RT, I with two Broncos prefer the Goodyear Territory MT.
Hear your customer!
I'm ordering another unit.....give me a choice!

The Stroppe media announcement* says it comes with the Territory RT. However look at the spare tire at 4:14......I say that's an MT.

Note the front tires at 4:24. I say they are MTs.....not RTs.

Hmm.

* https://media.ford.com/content/ford...-special-edition-honors-the-original-baj.html

This truck has completely different tires, alike what we see in the Freewheeling photo.

I don't care for these new tires at all. Our forum member suggested the new SAS tire is one thing, while this Stroppe Ford info shows an entirely different tread.

I myself always try to becrystal clear with my customers about car and truck spec changes, while having some proposed design/spec changes cancelled that the R&D center didn't realize that my customers don't want.

Bronco Brand Manager Jason Hyde, may I please opt for the traditional, proven and customer-satisfying Territory MTs ?
.

These are preproduction images/vehicles.
If you want accurate information on what it will be equipped with, look at the order guide.
All Sasquatch packages come with the new R/T tire, there is no option for anything else.

 

[Kevin Scarbel]

These are preproduction images/vehicles.
If you want accurate information on what it will be equipped with, look at the order guide.
All Sasquatch packages come with the new R/T tire, there is no option for anything else.

A. I humbly suggest that the paying (and loyal) customer should be able to choose between MT and RT.
B. I read the order guide. I see RT. But Ford sales marketing should have its act together when they write RT but show MT (the video). Many customers are observant enough to note the conflict.
C. In no uncertain terms, the RT shown above is a drastically different tread from the MT. Thus, both tire types should be offered, the mild RT and more aggressive MT (Again, few ever complained of tire noise). It is not abnormal for Ford to offer tire options.
D. The Freewheeling photo shows the "RT" and tread rather vividly. The tread is drastically different from the popular MT.

I can only assume that, alike the superb Territory MT, the LT315/70R17 will be specially designed for the Bronco, lightweight (52lb) for reduced wheel-end weight to achieve enhanced fuel economy. But who knows? Goodyear has yet to publish data.

 

[Ducati1098]

A. I humbly suggest that the paying (and loyal) customer should be able to choose between MT and RT.
B. I read the order guide. I see RT. But Ford sales marketing should have its act together when they write RT but show MT (the video). Many customers are observant enough to note the conflict.
C. In no uncertain terms, the RT shown above is a drastically different tread from the MT. Thus, both tire types should be offered, the mild RT and more aggressive MT (Again, few ever complained of tire noise). It is not abnormal for Ford to offer tire options.
D. The Freewheeling photo shows the "RT" and tread rather vividly. The tread is drastically different from the popular MT.

I can only assume that, alike the superb Territory MT, the LT315/70R17 will be specially designed for the Bronco, lightweight (52lb) for reduced wheel-end weight to achieve enhanced fuel economy. But who knows? Goodyear has yet to publish data.

You certainly have the right to believe any of the points above, but unfortunately that’s just not how things work

The good news is you can always install the tires you’d rather have when they only offer the R/T’s

 

[Kevin Scarbel]

You certainly have the right to believe any of the points above, but unfortunately that’s just not how things work

The good news is you can always install the tires you’d rather have when they only offer the R/T’s

Please consider my thoughts to be both constructive and humble in nature.
Alike yourself, though we don't work for Ford, we care deeply about the Bronco brand's successful development.
You say that's not how things work. I beg to differ. I've worked several decades for a global car, commercial truck and bus manufacturer. Things can work as I've suggested.

 

[Ducati1098]

Please consider my thoughts to be both constructive and humble in nature.
Alike yourself, though we don't work for Ford, we care deeply about the Bronco brand's successful development.
You say that's not how things work. I beg to differ. I've worked several decades for a global car, commercial truck and bus manufacturer. Things can work as I've suggested.

I did consider your thoughts. Which is why I recommended an alternative method to get the tires you want.

I fail to see how I’m not being constructive or humble. All I did was try to help you understand that preproduction images and vehicles don’t necessarily show what the vehicle will actually be equipped with.

Like I said you’re more than welcome to your own thoughts on what the Bronco should be equipped with. And more power to you for trying to get it.
But I’m just being realistic in saying you aren’t going to get everything you want.
Lots of people would like small changes to get exactly what they want, but it isn’t going to happen.

If you find a way, please tell Ford that I’d like a Stroppe edition with a regular paint job and for ~$10k less than they’re asking.

 

[Kevin Scarbel]

Please consider my thoughts to be both constructive and humble in nature.
Alike yourself, though we don't work for Ford, we care deeply about the Bronco brand's successful development.

I did consider your thoughts. Which is why I recommended an alternative method to get the tires you want.

I fail to see how I’m not being constructive or humble. All I did was try to help you understand that preproduction images and vehicles don’t necessarily show what the vehicle will actually be equipped with.

Like I said you’re more than welcome to your own thoughts on what the Bronco should be equipped with. And more power to you for trying to get it.
But I’m just being realistic in saying you aren’t going to get everything you want.
Lots of people would like small changes to get exactly what they want, but it isn’t going to happen.

If you find a way, please tell Ford that I’d like a Stroppe edition with a regular paint job and for ~$10k less than they’re asking.

I did not mean to project that you were not being constructive and humble.
Please forgive me for somehow unintentionally conveying that.
You are a gentleman and a scholar.

Generally, pre-production models "shown to the public" are as they will be built. Otherwise, we don't show them, to avoid any confusion.

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