Thanks for the info. Currently saving up for these for my Black Diamond non-sas. Btw, the link says they’re for a 2-door. Did that matter at all?
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On top of that Eibachs have a lifetime warranty. The Ford kit is great to maintain a factory warranty if something else goes wrong. But really offer nothing else over the Eibachs.I’m really not trying to be a dick or a hater when I say this, but these cost more than the eibachs, aren’t adjustable and give 2” of lift? 3/36k warranty? My dealership are real sticklers about non ford performance parts, especially on the engine (intake, charge pipes, BOV and intercooler all of which I have but doesn’t void the warranty) but know I have the eibachs, zone UCA and fabtech lower rears with the core 4x4 rear track bar and haven’t said a word about it. For the record I think your bronco looks great so kuddos
They have a set for 2 door, and for 4 door. I would get the set that corresponds with your vehicle.Thanks for the info. Currently saving up for these for my Black Diamond non-sas. Btw, the link says they’re for a 2-door. Did that matter at all?
But you don't have different fenders. You have different flares. Axle centerline to fender is standard comparison. Now if you had ADV fenders or some other aftermarket fender, then the comparison wouldn't be an apple to apple.With my fenders being different I'm afraid that would affect the comparison. Is there somewhere on the frame that would be ideal to use?
Funny thing is that factory springs come in multiple different rates based on the specific vehicle, but here "Ford Performance Tuning" means one size fits all 2 door and one size fits all 4 door.They have a set for 2 door, and for 4 door. I would get the set that corresponds with your vehicle.
The 35s will finish the job.After 9+ mos of waiting on Ford, I finally was able to purchase and install the new Ford Performance Shocks for non-SAS Broncos. The shocks are marketed as "...uniquely tuned and tested by Ford Performance Engineering to optimize ride and performance both Off- and On-Road" as well as "Approximately 2" of lift results in optimal ground clearance and approach/departure angles", and finally "Direct bolt-in replacement suspension package, improving both ride quality and stance of vehicle." The 2" of lift is right about where I wanted to get to as a non-SAS OBX model.
Even thought they're bolt-on replacements, as a result of the 3 yr/36k warranty if installed by an ASE technician I took them to a local overlanding garage who did the install. Unfortunately I didn't take specific measurements on ground clearance before the install but the technician stated he measured 2". I think it's apparent from the pictures that is probably accurate, but I can take some after measurements if someone can provide a non-SAS OBX with stock Badlands wheels/tires starting measurements to compare with. Here is a before/after (the photo dimensions aren't perfect), but it should illustrate the difference in height and stance.
Takeaways after 4-5 days of driving:
I do think the information online for these shocks is lacking at this point - I'd love to understand more in terms of how much travel these have, etc. but all we seem to have is the Ford Performance marketing website info. I was going to call the Ford Performance line and ask for more details but haven't been able to yet. If anyone has more technical details they can share I'd love to see them.
- Very happy with the on-road ride quality up to this point. The shocks seemed a little stiff straight out of the garage parking lot but I think they've broken-in quickly. My understanding based on the forum is OBX had the "softest" suspension of all the models so I don't necessarily think these new Ford Performance shocks are softer but they do seem to handle bumps more confidently with the huge 2.65" mono-tube.
- Love the amount of lift and the improved stance. Seems like it's lost the stock rake but I need to get under there and measure more specifically. I think the stock Badland 17s/33s now seem a little small for the lift and 35s will be in order when I replace the tires (which I should be able to support with 4.27 gearing), but I think the look is somewhat exaggerated because I am running the Ford after-market steel fenders that don't have any lip on them so there's more visibility into the wheel-well. I'll switch back to the painted fenders in the Spring.
- I haven't been able to take it off-road but I'm confident they're going to be noticeably superior to the stock OBX along with the improved clearance/angles.
If there are additional pictures or measurements anyone would like to me to provide just let me know. I'm travelling for work over the next few days but I'm sure by the weekend I could provide some updates.
value of sas is great unless you didn't want the tires, rims, or need the front locker. for me with the 4.46/4a and rear diff i saved over 2k with badlands co takeoffs, wildpeak 33s, and rtr wheels vs sas. i do think there is a line where sas just makes more sense though.Seems like the more I see what people are spending on lift kits, bigger tires, and a needed regearing, the more I’m happy with the value the factory Sasquatch package has to offer.
Nice set up. but do you (or anyone!) know why the shock studs at bottom arent turned upside down so the smooth head of the stud is below and the threaded side points up, thus avoiding the studs protrude so far and possibly getting damaged by road obstacles? could they be pressed out and reversed?After 9+ mos of waiting on Ford, I finally was able to purchase and install the new Ford Performance Shocks for non-SAS Broncos. The shocks are marketed as "...uniquely tuned and tested by Ford Performance Engineering to optimize ride and performance both Off- and On-Road" as well as "Approximately 2" of lift results in optimal ground clearance and approach/departure angles", and finally "Direct bolt-in replacement suspension package, improving both ride quality and stance of vehicle." The 2" of lift is right about where I wanted to get to as a non-SAS OBX model.
Even thought they're bolt-on replacements, as a result of the 3 yr/36k warranty if installed by an ASE technician I took them to a local overlanding garage who did the install. Unfortunately I didn't take specific measurements on ground clearance before the install but the technician stated he measured 2". I think it's apparent from the pictures that is probably accurate, but I can take some after measurements if someone can provide a non-SAS OBX with stock Badlands wheels/tires starting measurements to compare with. Here is a before/after (the photo dimensions aren't perfect), but it should illustrate the difference in height and stance.
Takeaways after 4-5 days of driving:
I do think the information online for these shocks is lacking at this point - I'd love to understand more in terms of how much travel these have, etc. but all we seem to have is the Ford Performance marketing website info. I was going to call the Ford Performance line and ask for more details but haven't been able to yet. If anyone has more technical details they can share I'd love to see them.
- Very happy with the on-road ride quality up to this point. The shocks seemed a little stiff straight out of the garage parking lot but I think they've broken-in quickly. My understanding based on the forum is OBX had the "softest" suspension of all the models so I don't necessarily think these new Ford Performance shocks are softer but they do seem to handle bumps more confidently with the huge 2.65" mono-tube.
- Love the amount of lift and the improved stance. Seems like it's lost the stock rake but I need to get under there and measure more specifically. I think the stock Badland 17s/33s now seem a little small for the lift and 35s will be in order when I replace the tires (which I should be able to support with 4.27 gearing), but I think the look is somewhat exaggerated because I am running the Ford after-market steel fenders that don't have any lip on them so there's more visibility into the wheel-well. I'll switch back to the painted fenders in the Spring.
- I haven't been able to take it off-road but I'm confident they're going to be noticeably superior to the stock OBX along with the improved clearance/angles.
If there are additional pictures or measurements anyone would like to me to provide just let me know. I'm travelling for work over the next few days but I'm sure by the weekend I could provide some updates.