Another cam phaser failure, horrible Ford quality issue

[samdogg87]

i was 12/22/22 build, delivered 1/4/23 so yea could be a batch issue but theres been a bunch of older broncos having the same issues as us so seems like it hasnt been figured out yet. Just curious if they released a revised part for this fix or is it just the same part and hoping for a better batch? gotta imagine the invoices ford is receiving for these monster repairs from dealers is going to get noticed soon if it hasnt already

as far as part availability i will keep you all posted if i was lied to or they really do have the parts available, funny thing was that dealer told me ford only approves loaner/rental for 10 days so they hope to get it done by then otherwise they got to ask for approval to extend but that sure as shit isnt going to be my problem, they arent getting theyre loaner back until i have my bronco and its put back together correctly

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[Imonamoose]

i was 12/22/22 build, delivered 1/4/23 so yea could be a batch issue but theres been a bunch of older broncos having the same issues as us so seems like it hasnt been figured out yet. Just curious if they released a revised part for this fix or is it just the same part and hoping for a better batch? gotta imagine the invoices ford is receiving for these monster repairs from dealers is going to get noticed soon if it hasnt already

as far as part availability i will keep you all posted if i was lied to or they really do have the parts available, funny thing was that dealer told me ford only approves loaner/rental for 10 days so they hope to get it done by then otherwise they got to ask for approval to extend but that sure as shit isnt going to be my problem, they arent getting theyre loaner back until i have my bronco and its put back together correctly

I dug into the 2.7 part iteration question a little bit on the f150 forums and it looks like of the front and rear parts for the cam phasers there have been 2 and 3 iterations respectively.

It does not appear to me that the problem has been engineered out of the parts and instead ford is counting these as acceptable losses and is just reinstalling the same model of part that just failed.


I would love if someone could correct me on this information.

 

[shervin]

Same thing started happening to my 22 Wildtrack at 8K a couple of days ago. Anyone knows how long a repair for this takes these days?

 

[Charles Miller]

NEED HELP! I live in the Bay Area and have the cam phaser issue. Very loud on cold starts, and you can now hear it even after an hour of sitting. Frontier Ford and Capital Ford tell me they hear a noise, but it is normal. That’s ridiculous; it wasn’t there before it started. I’m trying Morgan Hill next. Can I get a recommendation anywhere in the Bay Area that might have experience with this issue? See video.

 

[Mpali]

Same thing started happening to my 22 Wildtrack at 8K a couple of days ago. Anyone knows how long a repair for this takes these days?

Depends on availability of all gaskets parts and bolts. 9 weeks for me

NEED HELP! I live in the Bay Area and have the cam phaser issue. Very loud on cold starts, and you can now hear it even after an hour of sitting. Frontier Ford and Capital Ford tell me they hear a noise, but it is normal. That’s ridiculous; it wasn’t there before it started. I’m trying Morgan Hill next. Can I get a recommendation anywhere in the Bay Area that might have experience with this issue? See video.

100 % cam phasers. Had the same noise and problem. There are more and more people getting this issue. Took dealer 9 weeks to get fixed due to parts. Take it to a different dealer or contact Ford directly.

 

[samdogg87]

UPDATE: dealer called and said they have all the parts in EXCEPT a $2 gasket thats backordered until 8/23! so i wont have my bronco till at least end of august, i guess the only good news is they are extending my loaner until its done

 

[Ducati1098]

UPDATE: dealer called and said they have all the parts in EXCEPT a $2 gasket thats backordered until 8/23! so i wont have my bronco till at least end of august, i guess the only good news is they are extending my loaner until its done

Did they say which gasket it is?

 

[samdogg87]

Did they say which gasket it is?

no and i didnt ask, im sure i could source it myself faster but its the principle of it, shouldnt have to do it for them

on the bright side i have a 23 F150 to put miles on for a month and can knock out some projects that i wont have to borrow a truck for to get done, gas mileage is a little better than my sas badlands anyway

 

[shervin]

Mine has been with Galpin for 3 days. Still they haven’t confirmed the issue. I had to complain directly to Ford to get a loaner after 3 days. And that’s only for 10 days. This is horrible.

 

[Imonamoose]

How’s your Bronco doing? Any new news?

Hey, hope you have had some traction on your warranty work and are back behind the wheel by now!

Just got an update on my end, received word from service tech today that all the parts are confirmed to be in and they are ready to go with all that stuff. (Two month wait.)

Now I am waiting for a service window. Service tech informed me there are 15 vehicles waiting for work currently and since my rig is still driving and otherwise operating fine he wants me to wait until these other vehicles have been completed before schedualing mine... the saga of the phaser failure continues.

 

[56huck]

My cam phaser also failed. December ‘21 build, Badlands, 2.7l, SAS, lux, 25k miles. The dealership identified the problem a few weeks ago, but the mechanic that does this kind of work was booked for quite a while. I understand the engine has to be removed. The dealership said it was ok to drive, even though it rattles like crazy on start up. I’m glad it will be fixed under warranty, but am disappointed that it already needs such a major repair.

 

[Lksamm]

Hi there, Mike. This cam phaser concern doesn’t sound like something we want you to experience with your Bronco. Could you please send us a PM with your VIN and the name and location of your Ford dealer? I'd be happy to look into how I can assist you on my end.

I was told today that my 2023 Braptor needs it engine replaced after only 3 month and 5,000 miles. Same rattle cam phaser timing chain. Pretty frustrated.

 

[Min_Ahn]

2DR 2.7 Badlands Non-SAS, problem started at 800 miles.. I'm scheduled for next week


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[MNRiderTTU]

9/26 build week, 4dr wildtrack. After receiving my bronco at the end of October we drove it till middle of January before the cam phasers started to rattle. It was at the dealership until the first of May. During that time they had to pull the engine twice because it jumped timing on their first attempt to repair. Finally get the vehicle and has been fine, until today when it started flashing engine light and lossed all power. Left us stranded on the side of the interstate. Had it towed to the nearest dealership and rented a hotel. I’ll talk to them tomorrow about pursuing the lemon law.

 

[Imonamoose]

9/26 build week, 4dr wildtrack. After receiving my bronco at the end of October we drove it till middle of January before the cam phasers started to rattle. It was at the dealership until the first of May. During that time they had to pull the engine twice because it jumped timing on their first attempt to repair. Finally get the vehicle and has been fine, until today when it started flashing engine light and lossed all power. Left us stranded on the side of the interstate. Had it towed to the nearest dealership and rented a hotel. I’ll talk to them tomorrow about pursuing the lemon law.

What was your milage at the initial cam failure?

You are in the same build window as a few of us on this thread.

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