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I'm with you. If only the moar door is the option, that opens up competition for me to every other brand.I wouldn't even own a Bronco if it was only available as a 4dr.
You do know this is Ford we are talking about. They are known for doing things like canceling something ecause only enthusiast want it.The 2 door with the 2.7 is a combination for the enthusiast. It's a limited market and has basically already been satisfied in the first couple of years.
Who knows maybe Ford will bring the 2.7 back to the 2 door in limited release.
The 2 door is part of the Bronco DNA and Ford would have a falling out with its core base if they got rid of it.
Good god, talk about a boomer take lol. You do realize that some of Ford's most reliable engines were inline 4s like the duratec, the zeta, and Lima engine series used in all manner of long living Ford vehicles, right?There is no replacement for displacement. Remember when Ford replaced the 7.3 L diesel with a 6.0L, then a 6.4L, then a 6.7L. Looks like 2027 will produce a new engine between 7.3 and 8.0 L. A big deal is the number engine revolutions to produce the power since that is a big factor in determining life expectancy of an engine. Four cylinder engines simply have to spin more to produce equivalent power. Lets see how many 4 cylinders are on the road in 200K miles. Ford is pushing buyers to 6 cylinder Wranglers! 3.6L V6. The market place will solve this problem for Ford.
I don't believe so as it sounds like that when my wife leaves our house and I'm in the yard. We have the "base" sound system in ours, not sure if the higher end stereo does it.Are the speakers enhancing the engine sound?
You may be onto something here. I will say the vast majority of 4 door Broncos I see around here are all being driven by a woman by herself in the car. Now, I'm retired and tend to be out in the middle of the day so maybe they all have kids in school and are using this time to run errands?Sadly, take rate tends to be driven by the 'gotta have it today' buyer, which means dealerships create their own self-fulfilling prophecy, just as with manual transmissions.
With the manual, so many models have been the absolute base, often saddled with the puniest of engines. If you HAVE a choice, the buyer is then stuck ordering and waiting. But since so many won't wait, the manufacturer declares nobody wants the manual.
Same thing with poorly optioned 2dr offerings. The stealership then guides to the profit center of moardoor even though that isn't what the customer WANTED!
If a 2dr manual had not been available to order, Ford would NOT have me as a Bronco customer just as Jaguar lost me when they quit selling a manual-equipped vehicle. If they still sold them, I would likely have gotten a new F-Type to replace the one i lost on Labor Day. It's also why Jeep lost me as a Gladiator purchaser and Nissan lost me on the Frontier.
Most reliable and longest life are two different things. By most measures, Ford inline 6 "300" is considered the most "legendary" engine. Great history there and reasons for success. Maybe the best four cylinder - "Offenhauser" is another great lesson in engines, but even those engines were based on displacement - outputs per cubic inch. Couple that with fewer part (reliability) and design to withstand extreme compression ratio they became an Icon. So after all the great engines the common success factor is DISPLACEMENT ! Modern technology is keeping small engines alive, but that does not mean they have a lot of potential.Good god, talk about a boomer take lol. You do realize that some of Ford's most reliable engines were inline 4s like the duratec, the zeta, and Lima engine series used in all manor of long living Ford vehicles, right?
Don't forget the king, 200-300 straight Six!Good god, talk about a boomer take lol. You do realize that some of Ford's most reliable engines were inline 4s like the duratec, the zeta, and Lima engine series used in all manor of long living Ford vehicles, right?
Three time winner of BDon't forget the king, 200-300 straight Six!
3 time winner of Baja 1000 !Don't forget the king, 200-300 straight Six!
The answer is simple, the take rate for the 2-door is small so its not worth it for them to offer a lot of options.Probably this boils down to money, but how does offering no 2-door V6 earn Ford more money? Typically auto makers are always making upgrades available to get people to pay more, but not in this case with no engine upgrade offering.
Does the V6 cost so much more to manufacture, install and warranty in a 2-door Bronco, that Ford loses money even when up-charging? Or is it another option ploy to make V6 buyers buy a more expensive 4-door? Or is Ford short on V6 availability, and wanting the V6 for other vehicles? Inquiring minds want know.
2.3L is a good engine with plenty of power, but the new for 2025 does not have more power (both HP and torque) and it does not get better MPG. That said dual injection is a good thing.Have you driven the new-for-2025 port-direct injection 2.3L?
I've driven both the manual and auto, and it performs great with the best sound (growl/snarl?) that I've heard in years. More power and enhanced MPG.
(I own both 2024 and 2025 2.3L's)
If it makes 300 HP and 330 torque, why not?Pretty soon, we’ll be down to 1.2L single-cylinder engines with 4 turbos.