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American made stuff can still be shitty sometimes. Just look at a lot of 80's autos.
Remember the Chrysler K-cars?
They were almost disposable after a certain amount of use.

The Bic® Corporation tried to compete with the disposable K cars.
The sealed gas tank was clear plastic, and you could see the fuel level.
Once depleted, just toss it away.
It didn't have a gas pedal. Instead, it had a large rolling wheel between the seats with "+" in the front, and a "-" in the rear. Just roll the wheel towards the plus sign to go faster.
Apparently if didn't meet the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) No. 301 (Fuel System Integrity).
 

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Remember the Chrysler K-cars?
They were almost disposable after a certain amount of use.

The Bic® Corporation tried to compete with the disposable K cars.
The sealed gas tank was clear plastic, and you could see the fuel level.
Once depleted, just toss it away.
It didn't have a gas pedal. Instead, it had a large rolling wheel between the seats with "+" in the front, and a "-" in the rear. Just roll the wheel towards the plus sign to go faster.
Apparently if didn't meet the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) No. 301 (Fuel System Integrity).
I guess they were at least still better than Yugos or those weird Renaults back in the day. haha.
 

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Feeling inspired about the Bronco/Filson co-brand, I decided to buy a new Filson bag for travel. Not knowing much about Filson (never purchased anything from them before), I decided it would be a good thing to try. Unfortunately, the bag strap broke LITERALLY the first time I used it during a trip last week. Super embarrassing too as I was traveling with colleagues for work and the bag suddenly fell to the ground in the airport terminal. The area where the strap attaches to the bag just simply failed. I REALLY hope this isn't a harbinger of bad news for the Bronco partnership. Bronco as a brand is synonymous with toughness and durable design. This bad is anything but that. Fingers crossed y'all



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I had never heard of Filson. The name sounds odd to me. It wouldn't attract me to purchase a new Bronco.
As for
 

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I had never heard of Filson. The name sounds odd to me. It wouldn't attract me to purchase a new Bronco.
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The new filson bronco is like the old Eddie Bauer broncos. So luxury interior, cooled seats, heated rears, and 3.0L.

But based on OPs experience I am now questioning Filsons quality… who knows maybe they will actually be true to their word and fix his bag strap.
 

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Feeling inspired about the Bronco/Filson co-brand, I decided to buy a new Filson bag for travel. Not knowing much about Filson (never purchased anything from them before), I decided it would be a good thing to try. Unfortunately, the bag strap broke LITERALLY the first time I used it during a trip last week. Super embarrassing too as I was traveling with colleagues for work and the bag suddenly fell to the ground in the airport terminal. The area where the strap attaches to the bag just simply failed. I REALLY hope this isn't a harbinger of bad news for the Bronco partnership. Bronco as a brand is synonymous with toughness and durable design. This bad is anything but that. Fingers crossed y'all



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Probably made at the same manufacturer Ford Bronco uses !
JUNK !
 

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The new filson bronco is like the old Eddie Bauer broncos. So luxury interior, cooled seats, heated rears, and 3.0L.

But based on OPs experience I am now questioning Filsons quality… who knows maybe they will actually be true to their word and fix his bag strap.
Like most Americans, I knew of the Eddie Bauer name/brand. But it never attracted me to by a Ford vehicle.
And again with Filson......I don't know the name and it's odd sounding to me.
In my view, the Bronco brand is not about being a "luxury" trimmed vehicle, no more than a Wrangler is. Bronco can be well appointed (refined), and the Outer Banks delivers to that end with the high-lux trim and color-keyed door handles.
One potential customer group that Ford is blatantly missing is the Wrangler Rubicon crowd. If I was Bronco brand manager, I would reintroduce the snorkel and winch-equipped Everglades as a 2-door (and 4-door) available with the 2.7L V6 (and 2.3L), and offer a Tremec manual transmission option for the 2.7L. The Everglades was a nice package, with its longer breather hoses, rock slide rails, distinct wheels and other. I have no doubt that my Everglades endeavor would outsell the Free Wheeling appearance package, Bill Stroppe trim and RTR trim (I would discontinue those).
 

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All kidding aside, Filson used to be the Gold Standard for outdoor gear and I own a number of the old USA made items. Unfortunately, todays market allows once premier outfitters to sell offshore sourced garbage at premium prices. I switched to Duluth Pack many years ago for back packs and duffels and have not looked back. They are spendy but my get-home bag that I always carry has been with me since 1995 and yeah the canvas has faded and the leather is scratched up a bit but my son and his son probably won't wear it out.
 

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Like most Americans, I knew of the Eddie Bauer name/brand. But it never attracted me to by a Ford vehicle.
And again with Filson......I don't know the name and it's odd sounding to me.
In my view, the Bronco brand is not about being a "luxury" trimmed vehicle, no more than a Wrangler is. Bronco can be well appointed (refined), and the Outer Banks delivers to that end with the high-lux trim and color-keyed door handles.
One potential customer group that Ford is blatantly missing is the Wrangler Rubicon crowd. If I was Bronco brand manager, I would reintroduce the snorkel and winch-equipped Everglades as a 2-door (and 4-door) available with the 2.7L V6 (and 2.3L), and offer a Tremec manual transmission option for the 2.7L. The Everglades was a nice package, with its longer breather hoses, rock slide rails, distinct wheels and other. I have no doubt that my Everglades endeavor would outsell the Free Wheeling appearance package, Bill Stroppe trim and RTR trim (I would discontinue those).
If you were a Bronco brand manager you’d be looking for a new job fast. ;-) See the stats: less than 15% of buyers ever take the vehicles off-road, and only 15% of sales are manual transmission. I get your wants, but they’re for the enthusiast, not the broader market. Which is cool. Be glad you got an Everglades when you did.
 

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The problem is that name brands are buying the same crap from the same factory-I’ve seen goretex ski gloves that where sold by LL Bean and the North Face that where identical to one another outside of the name on them. Seen the same thing with black fleece jackets too.
 

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Filson has the same problem Eddie Bauer had. They're owned by private equity. They're at a different stage of enshittification as Eddie Bauer, which recently closed all their brick and mortar stores. Eddie Bauer has arrived at the asset stripping and flipping stage. Filson is at the value extraction phase.

LL Bean is still family owned. Duluth is publicly traded but is run by a normal board of directors like any other public company. Quality is generally going to be better at any company that isn't run by people who are just trying to derive whatever value they can from it and then dump it.

Eddie Bauer and Filson both used to be really amazing. That's in the past, though. I still have Eddie Bauer clothes I bought before private equity and they are still holding up. I went into a store a year or so ago and just didn't see anything I thought would hold up to real world use and switched over to Duluth since there's a store close by.

As far as the name on the Bronco, though, it is just a licensed name. Could just call it the "fancy pants edition" but it probably doesn't sound as cool
 

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The problem is that name brands are buying the same crap from the same factory-I’ve seen goretex ski gloves that where sold by LL Bean and the North Face that where identical to one another outside of the name on them. Seen the same thing with black fleece jackets too.
I remember when the air compressor companies were all like, "hey we have this great air compressor THAT WE DID OURSELVES!!!" and they'd get all snippy with each other when one really similar came out (like the Napa) that sorta looked like a rip off of one or the other.

Then we find out there's a guy going around who takes orders for these compressors, because they almost all come from the same manufacturing facility. The "special updates" that one brand had was from this guy offering it, since the manufacturer could now do X or Y. And then it slowly started to come out they were just ordering from a catalog too.

Not that it isn't a risk or difficult to "make" and sell these things, but it was pretty funny to see all the cattyness was at least somewhat vapid and based on nonsense. :LOL:
 

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I remember when the air compressor companies were all like, "hey we have this great air compressor THAT WE DID OURSELVES!!!" and they'd get all snippy with each other when one really similar came out (like the Napa) that sorta looked like a rip off of one or the other.

Then we find out there's a guy going around who takes orders for these compressors, because they almost all come from the same manufacturing facility. The "special updates" that one brand had was from this guy offering it, since the manufacturer could now do X or Y. And then it slowly started to come out they were just ordering from a catalog too.

Not that it isn't a risk or difficult to "make" and sell these things, but it was pretty funny to see all the cattyness was at least somewhat vapid and based on nonsense. :LOL:
My father worked his whole life for Radio Flyer (the company that makes the little red wagons). When I was a late teen, I was contemplating dropping out of school to work in my uncle's auto repair shop. My immigrant father was having none of that. They were hiring summer help at the factory and he had me come work there.

We often were filling orders for Sears, Ace and True Value hardware stores. Same wagons and wheelbarrows, we were just stenciling their respective names on them instead of Radio Flyer.

Working in that factory got my head straight. I quickly realized what it is life to have limited options. The work was mind numbingly boring and it was HOT in that plant.

After that summer, I applied at different colleges, was accepted and transferred out of the junior college I was attending and eventually got a computer science degree. I will forever be grateful for that lesson my dad taught me.

I'm just sad that he never got a chance to see where my career took me.
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