Let's Talk Outdoor Camping Tips, Tricks, Hacks

[Canyon Coolers]

I hadn't thought about those stoves since I was over on Expedition Portal back in the day ...$500 - $1000 for a camp stove is simply insane.

I've had mine 20 years and it has survived raft flips, the Grand canyon and everything one can throw at it. The Grand Canyon River outfitters up here are cheap, they all use these on rental fleets. one need only replace a few O rings every 7 years. It has lower BTU's then some options but you buy it once and hand it off to your kids. Amortizes to $20 a year or something.

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[Canyon Coolers]

I’ve been using two of your Clean Ice bags, one I freeze solid and the other filled with block ice. Great product. Using it as an air bladder to eat up space in the cooler is an interesting adaptation.

Also, I must say I have a Canyon Pro 45 quart cooler and it’s awesome. I use two straps & cooler tie down brackets to secure it to my drawer system.

I saw that. Great color too. We have the best clients on earth. Thanks !!

 

[Steve_In_29]

I've had mine 20 years and it has survived raft flips, the Grand canyon and everything one can throw at it. The Grand Canyon River outfitters up here are cheap, they all use these on rental fleets. one need only replace a few O rings every 7 years. It has lower BTU's then some options but you buy it once and hand it off to your kids. Amortizes to $20 a year or something.

I have 50 year old Colmans still going strong. That cost $50 TOTAL.

 

[swamp2]

I hadn't thought about those stoves since I was over on Expedition Portal back in the day ...$500 - $1000 for a camp stove is simply insane.

As @Canyon Coolers noted, these things are high end, for extremely rough outings and they are heirloom quality. Pay once, cry once.

It seems like a theme with you that everything is too expensive. You may have picked the wrong hobby...

I have 50 year old Colmans still going strong. That cost $50 TOTAL.

Come on, 50 stoves at $1 each. Hyperbole much...

 

[Steve_In_29]

As @Canyon Coolers noted, these things are high end, for extremely rough outings and they are heirloom quality. Pay once, cry once.

It seems like a theme with you that everything is too expensive. You may have picked the wrong hobby...

I've been in this hobby longer than many on here have been alive. While I will spend the money for things that really count, I learned long ago to not waste money simply trying to impress others.

And there is a BIG difference between being "too expensive" and "not worth the money" I didn't get to retire at 56 by lighting my money on fire.

The fact is that a regular Colman stove in a non-commercial application will last longer than most people will live. Spending 500-1000 dollars on a camping stove to carry around in an "overlanding" Bronco is just a, "look at me flex" to impress the poors.

I didn't realize this forum was filled with people from Sniper's Hide. Where comments such as, "unless you spent $3K+ on your AR15 you will simply die in the apocalypse" get made.

Come on, 50 stoves at $1 each. Hyperbole much...

The point...your head....right over it

You REALLY think that sentance meant I had 50 Coleman stoves that were all just a year old which I only paid a total of a dollar each for??

I guess I should type slower when posting on this forum.

 

[BaseSquatch26]

Weather? What weather?

 

[not on the rug]

Weather? What weather?

What axe is that?

 

[BaseSquatch26]

Custom hawk from Brave Hawk Forge.

 

[swamp2]

I've been in this hobby longer than many on here have been alive. While I will spend the money for things that really count, I learned long ago to not waste money simply trying to impress others.

And there is a BIG difference between being "too expensive" and "not worth the money" I didn't get to retire at 56 by lighting my money on fire.

The fact is that a regular Colman stove in a non-commercial application will last longer than most people will live. Spending 500-1000 dollars on a camping stove to carry around in an "overlanding" Bronco is just a, "look at me flex" to impress the poors.

I didn't realize this forum was filled with people from Sniper's Hide. Where comments such as, "unless you spent $3K+ on your AR15 you will simply die in the apocalypse" get made.

Personally, I try to balance buy once cry once vs. getting a high ratio of performance per dollar. But moreso than being thrifty, I focused more at increasing my income rather than reducing spending to comfortably retire (in CA) at 54. I too didn't get there by wasting my money.

Do I overland, yup. Do I car camp, yup, do I wheel the piss out of my Bronco crawling and at high speeds, yes. Do I own a Camp Partner stove, hell yes. Does one need one of these, certainly not. Am I "flexing", absolutely not.

One can certainly argue that even owning a $60k recreational vehicle is in itself, irrespective ov how much or how it is used, is in itself both unnecessary and excessive. $60k is obviously a "bit" more than $500.

As to Cook Partner, I appreciate their design, durability, reputation, materials, quality, being made in the US and simply owning and using gear that is heirloom quality. My kid will be using this stove long after my time. Maybe one of his camping buddies will say, "wow that's an interesting stove" and that might lead to a story about his long since passed away old man.

Both "too expensive" and "not worth the price" are 100% opinions and subjective. You don't get to decide those in some absolute sense (as it appears you believe you can).

I think you should stop judging both those who choose differently than you and again stop complaining that everything is too expensive. Obviously, my opinion and that is worth precisely what you paid for it.

 

[swamp2]

Custom hawk from Brave Hawk Forge.

Your a poseur, over $100 on a hatchet is absurd. That can feed a family of 6 in India for 2 weeks. I bet you haven't even been camping for 10 years in total yet. You probably also have an inflatable mattress in that tent don't you? My Ace Hardware hatchet with a steel handle works 90% as well at 15% of the cost.

Do you even Bushcraft bro???

Just kidding, looks like a great hatchet at a very reasonable cost and made in TX!

I picked up a Hults Bruk Almike 16" hatchet a year or so ago and it was such a nice upgrade to my prior "junker".

 

[BaseSquatch26]

I think they were on forged in fire. Not sure if he won. That’s just winter camp. Black powder guy.

The new Bronco will get me into the backcountry in all seasons.

 

[Steve_In_29]

Personally, I try to balance buy once cry once vs. getting a high ratio of performance per dollar. But moreso than being thrifty, I focused more at increasing my income rather than reducing spending to comfortably retire (in CA) at 54. I too didn't get there by wasting my money.

Do I overland, yup. Do I car camp, yup, do I wheel the piss out of my Bronco crawling and at high speeds, yes. Do I own a Camp Partner stove, hell yes. Does one need one of these, certainly not. Am I "flexing", absolutely not.

One can certainly argue that even owning a $60k recreational vehicle is in itself, irrespective ov how much or how it is used, is in itself both unnecessary and excessive. $60k is obviously a "bit" more than $500.

As to Cook Partner, I appreciate their design, durability, reputation, materials, quality, being made in the US and simply owning and using gear that is heirloom quality. My kid will be using this stove long after my time. Maybe one of his camping buddies will say, "wow that's an interesting stove" and that might lead to a story about his long since passed away old man.

Both "too expensive" and "not worth the price" are 100% opinions and subjective. You don't get to decide those in some absolute sense (as it appears you believe you can).

I think you should stop judging both those who choose differently than you and again stop complaining that everything is too expensive. Obviously, my opinion and that is worth precisely what you paid for it.

I too retired in California (I'm a native). We just didn't want to live there any more and prefer our place in AZ (log house on 72 acres in the country). And 56 was simply the minimum age for me to retire from my job or I would have gone out sooner.

The cost of a Bronco is what it is and there aren't any vehicles that cost less on the market today which can do what it does. So paying that cost is in no way a flex. Though in my case I did let the first owner take that $15k depreciation hit on his $64K vehicle so I could then buy a 23 Wildtrak with just 10K miles for $49K

Though you are kind of correct about it being unnecessary as I only have about $20K in my 73 Bronco (including buying it) and it will wheel just fine

It's nice you want to pass the stove onto your kid but my grandson is already using one of my old Colemans and $500 would buy a lot of propane for it

As you say "too expensive" and "not worth the cost" are subjective and opinions. And I am free to express my opinion on this forum. Last time I looked this wasn't a "yes man" only forum.

Not sure why you placed an onus on "thrifty" and getting actual value for the money. I prefer thrifty over more money then sense. Hell my brother is an actual multi-millionaire and while his family lives quite well, even he is "thrifty" about how he spends his money. He finally replaced his bought new 2005 Jeep Liberty as his daily driver for work this year after putting almost 400K miles on it... with a used 2022 Frontier

It seems you are irritated that someone simply pointed out "the king has no clothes" concerning that stove.

 

[Ramble_Offroad]

Weather? What weather?

No such thing as bad weather, only bad clothing.

 

[swamp2]

As you say "too expensive" and "not worth the cost" are subjective and opinions. And I am free to express my opinion on this forum. Last time I looked this wasn't a "yes man" only forum.

Just a recurring theme from you, again in a quite expensive leisure activity and 100% subjective. Criticizing or borderline insulting others choices when you drive a $49k recreational vehicle - that's rich.

It seems you are irritated that someone simply pointed out "the king has no clothes" concerning that stove.

Slightly irritated, yes. The "Emporer has no clothes" (i.e. the correct idiom) - Nope. Sorry, again, 100% subjective. A poor value to you is not a poor value to all. You can't seem to let go of the fact that your opinion isn't gospel as to cost and value.

 

[Steve_In_29]

Just a recurring theme from you, again in a quite expensive leisure activity and 100% subjective. Criticizing or borderline insulting others choices when you drive a $49k recreational vehicle - that's rich.

Not sure where you get the whole "recreational vehicle" nonsense you keep harping on, as mine is simply a daily driver that can also go off-road. In fact none of the 4x4s I have ever owned have ever been dedicated trailer queen, off road rigs. They ALL were the vehicle that got me back and forth to work during the week. With one (73 Bronco) still able to run the Hammer Trails on the weekend.

Neither activity (camping or off-roading) is in and of themselves "quite expensive" unless one is trying to show off for their "overlanding" buddies or impress others with the size of their wallet. Those activities are only as expensive as a person wants to make them. There is no requirement to spend stupid amounts of money to get out and wheel or camp.

Slightly irritated, yes. The "Emporer has no clothes" (i.e. the correct idiom) - Nope. Sorry, again, 100% subjective. A poor value to you is not a poor value to all. You can't seem to let go of the fact that your opinion isn't gospel as to cost and value.

As yours and others opinions aren't gospel to me.

And mine doesn't change despite others attempts at shouting it down.

This is a discussion forum not a sit around and stroke each others egos forum.

An honest reply would have been, "because I want it and have the money to burn"...end of discussion. But there is no way to make a valid case that buying that $500-1000 stove is in any way a "good value" or "will outlast" the tried and true Coleman.

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