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Yeah I have the sway bar disconnect and there’s no signs of it having rubbed under full compression or droop.
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How are you at full compression? Do you have a swaybar disconnect?


A shock is a shock? You can definitely design how far down the spring cup comes. Having zero solutions for the tie rod is a serious miss.

Unfortunately I’m thinking at this point the heim joint Ones are the only option but seriously these are so close those might even be too wide.
I didn't mean to sound dismissive, my apologies if it sounded like that. I only meant that a 2.5" shock is what it is, it's pretty much set in stone, as are the dimensions of the coil spring that fits around it. The lower spring cup is located where it has to be in order to accommodate the length of spring/travel/etc. Yes its tight under there, Ford didn't leave much room for us aftermarket companies to play with. So of course there may be some incompatible combinations of aftermarket components.
 

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Yeah, the coil length is an issue with this setup as they cause quite a bit of interference with the sway bar link and the tie-rod, depending on which orientation you put the lower pin on the fronts.

I've got the JKS tie-rod sleeves installed, which I think is one of the thinnest sleeves out there, and both springs have wear from contacting the tie-rod sleeves already.

For me, putting the coilovers on opposite sides made things even worse. The sway bar link contacts the spring even more, so I'll have to live with knowing my $3500 suspension will get damaged no matter what I do. I wish I had known this before purchasing.
 

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Yeah, the coil length is an issue with this setup as they cause quite a bit of interference with the sway bar link and the tie-rod, depending on which orientation you put the lower pin on the fronts.

I've got the JKS tie-rod sleeves installed, which I think is one of the thinnest sleeves out there, and both springs have wear from contacting the tie-rod sleeves already.

For me, putting the coilovers on opposite sides made things even worse. The sway bar link contacts the spring even more, so I'll have to live with knowing my $3500 suspension will get damaged no matter what I do. I wish I had known this before purchasing.
@Dusty at ICON this is going to become an issue.

The answer of “we are not compatible with everything aftermarket”is not acceptable in this instance. Because realistically for tie rod reenforcment, you should say “we are not compatible with anything.” Those are a much needed accessory for these vehicles. The fact that this was not tested for is not a good look. These are fairly expensive set ups. Did the team not think these would be used by anyone that would want to do anything slightly aggressive for the steering?

I would suggest you talk to your team and test for a solution otherwise this will be posted as an article so icons can be properly relegated to the mall crawling crowd. And those of us that actually use them can get one of the other current Solutions that are compatible with Tie rod reinforcements
 

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So do the Kings or Fox's not have these issues? What about the icon makes the clearance an issue?
 

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I can't speak for the King or the Fox coilovers, as I have not seen those in person. But, to give you a visual of the issue with the ICONs, pictured below are a non-SAS coilover, a SAS coilover (with 2.5 in spacer), and the new ICON coilover.

Ford Bronco ICON Complete Coilover Suspension Systems (Stages 3 through 8) spring differenc


As you can see, the ICON spring is a few inches longer, putting the spring cup even lower. Because of the longer spring length, the springs are now coming into VERY close contact with either the sway bar link or tie-rods, depending on how you mount the front coilovers (there is an offset in the lower assembly of the coilover to push it to one side or the other). The non-SAS and SAS configurations don't present this problem due to their shorter spring length.

If you have a sleeve or brace for your tie-rod, it will likely make contact with the ICON spring. If you flip the coilovers to opposite sides, the sway bar links sit closer to the springs than the tie-rod on my rig.

I marked the red spots on the ICON spring in the picture to show where the tie-rod sleeves are making contact with my setup. Also, to add another cookie to the jar, I haven't taken my rig wheeling since I installed the new ICON system. The contact has come from strictly mall crawling. I have a wheeling trip on Labor Day, so we'll see how they hold up.
 

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I can't speak for the King or the Fox coilovers, as I have not seen those in person. But, to give you a visual of the issue with the ICONs, pictured below are a non-SAS coilover, a SAS coilover (with 2.5 in spacer), and the new ICON coilover.

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As you can see, the ICON spring is a few inches longer, putting the spring cup even lower. Because of the longer spring length, the springs are now coming into VERY close contact with either the sway bar link or tie-rods, depending on how you mount the front coilovers (there is an offset in the lower assembly of the coilover to push it to one side or the other). The non-SAS and SAS configurations don't present this problem due to their shorter spring length.

If you have a sleeve or brace for your tie-rod, it will likely make contact with the ICON spring. If you flip the coilovers to opposite sides, the sway bar links sit closer to the springs than the tie-rod on my rig.

I marked the red spots on the ICON spring in the picture to show where the tie-rod sleeves are making contact with my setup. Also, to add another cookie to the jar, I haven't taken my rig wheeling since I installed the new ICON system. The contact has come from strictly mall crawling. I have a wheeling trip on Labor Day, so we'll see how they hold up.
Thank you. I have the icons on but I'm still stock tie rod setup. I have some sleeves to go on but might hold off now.
 

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Just got the Icons on tonight and did a quick dirt road test ride. Very smooth. A little more lift than I wanted, so I hope they settle a bit, but I’m also running about as light as a Bronco can be.
How about rear brake lines? It sure looked like they were about maxed out when I was installing them. I’ll definitely be checking at full droop to make sure I don’t need longer lines or a relocation bracket.

26.5 inches front, 27.5 inches rear center hub to fender. Will probably be more level with top and doors on.
Looks like RCVs may be in my future. I’ll run it as it until it breaks, but the angles don’t look great.

Ford Bronco ICON Complete Coilover Suspension Systems (Stages 3 through 8) AB2D5345-2D9E-4636-9D16-BCE9CF80AABF
 
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Just got the Icons on tonight and did a quick dirt road test ride. Very smooth. A little more lift than I wanted, so I hope they settle a bit, but I’m also running about as light as a Bronco can be.
How about rear brake lines? It sure looked like they were about maxed out when I was installing them. I’ll definitely be checking at full droop to make sure I don’t need longer lines or a relocation bracket.

27 inches center hub to fender.
Looks like RCVs may be in my future. I’ll run it as it until it breaks, but the angles don’t look great.

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Stock UCAs and no alignment? Yikes…
 

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Stock UCAs and no alignment? Yikes…
The stock UCAs are actually quite good and have as much or more range of motion than most aftermarket UCAs. I did verify they would go well beyond full droop. They don't come close to contact with the Icons, so no interference issues to worry about either. Only issue may be getting it into alignment specs. I'm sure they will work as well, but if not then I will replace them.
This isn't the first alignment I've done at home either, so don't worry about that. It currently tracks straight. I will be taking it in for a professional alignment, but the speed limit doesn't get over 45mph between there and my house, so I think I'll be just fine.
 

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Well installed stage 8 on my bronco and I’m not comfortable with how close the tie rod is to the coil. It really seems like a design flaw by Icon. I’ve since driven about 700 miles and you can see they make contact on the picture below. Not sure I could get a sleeve on them if I even wanted to. I’m super frustrated by this. Totally unacceptable design. Cup should have been raised about 3/4 inch.
Ford Bronco ICON Complete Coilover Suspension Systems (Stages 3 through 8) ACFEBD9F-647B-4580-96EC-472F2C03D8B9

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I wonder how they'll fit with the WT HOSS 3 Ford Performance heavy duty rack and tie rods?

Super disappointed in the fit, and the FP rack and tie rods is a definite upgrade for me (if they ever release it). Glad I didn't spend the $10k on the cockpit adjustable version.

Sorry you guys are having this issue. :(
I imagine there is a no-refund policy. I'd be super pissed.

Continuing to watch this thread for resolution, but ICONs are no longer #1 on my list. Between this and the suspect location of the rear reservoirs getting damaged by rocks, well, it doesn't look like the kit for me. :(
 

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I am at minimal lift and appear to have adequate clearance. I wonder if it becomes more of an issue the more lift you have. Most people will have them set 1-2 inches more than I am.

Ford Bronco ICON Complete Coilover Suspension Systems (Stages 3 through 8) EBD3151E-0593-436E-8F5A-100A9BC9BD69
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I wonder how they'll fit with the WT HOSS 3 Ford Performance heavy duty rack and tie rods?

Super disappointed in the fit, and the FP rack and tie rods is a definite upgrade for me (if they ever release it). Glad I didn't spend the $10k on the cockpit adjustable version.

Sorry you guys are having this issue. :(
I imagine there is a no-refund policy. I'd be super pissed.

Continuing to watch this thread for resolution, but ICONs are no longer #1 on my list. Between this and the suspect location of the rear reservoirs getting damaged by rocks, well, it doesn't look like the kit for me. :(
Yeah I’m super pissed! I would avoid these until Icon addresses these issues.
 

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I am at minimal lift and appear to have adequate clearance. I wonder if it becomes more of an issue the more lift you have. Most people will have them set 1-2 inches more than I am.

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Are those photos taken with wheel turned fully out?
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