Ford will ship Broncos without chips controlling non-safety critical features

[vrtical]

I will find it interesting how this works with missing components on the canbus.

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[Bronc 1]

So let’s say the chip that your vehicle is missing is the chip that controls heated seats (or auto start or something else non essential). Would Ford allow the dealers to release the vehicles to us? Or would the dealers hold onto our Broncos until the part comes in?

Sounds like sellable vehicle yes you take it home.

 

[BriscoGun]

There are multiple issues to consider here, the first of which is that each state has their own laws regarding car sales. Some states will NOT let a partially assembled vehicle be delivered. Some will. This issue about shipping partially completed cars is NOT about getting them delivered to customers...

There are some other points that this is addressing at this time: storage (and costs) and insurance/liability (and costs). First, Ford is paying a LOT of money to store these vehicles. And were not just talking about Broncos, there are lots of other models this is affecting. Ford is paying daily fees to store these vehicle anywhere they can find. Second, they are having to pay the insurance to cover those vehicles while in storage.

Now here comes the fun part: transportation. With rising gas prices and an already thinly stretched supply chain, Ford is worried about how to get all these cars out without paying too much as costs go up. So, they will be shipping the cars now (the dealers have to sign agreements to accept the cars "as is" and then the dealers bear the insurance costs). This will hopefully save them time and money over the coming months and ease the pain of shipping.

Keep in mind, these cars are delivered by independent truckers and trucking companies. Ford does NOT own their own transports. So Trucker A can show up and say "Who's gonna pay me the most to move their cars?" and hold them all at gun point to get the highest fees right now. That's just gonna get worse.

In most cases, your partially assembled Bronco will be sitting at the dealership, where they will be unable to sell it, but you can go by and visit it. In the event that they ARE able to sell the vehicle and you take delivery, there will be no credits. You will be paying for every item listed on the window sticker and will be issued a "we owe" for any missing components. Just like if your car listed "floor mats" and they were missing at delivery, they would issue you a "we owe", but this time it might be a radio or power windows. Who knows? Could there be a rebate for some folks to offset the inconvenience? Sure. But I wouldn't count on it or even hope for it.

All this really does is move the vehicles and the liability to the dealerships from Ford. Maybe a few get delivered in some key states with lax laws.

 

[Bronc 1]

HA, you think It's all fun and games until the entire info-tainment center is bricked!!! LOL

Then everybody will be here, "Ma fuckin' radio don't work!!! Fuck you Ford!"

I will just get a Bluetooth speaker then Build and send my bronco please. I had a 74 bronco I was just happy to have heat. I’ll be fine.

 

[Roofus]

This is a TERRIBLE idea. Dealerships are short handed, have full work loads, and getting modules installed is going to be unrealistic and severely slow.

Not to mention if a vehicle owner has to trade or sell their vehicle what then? Who would buy or accept a vehicle that isn't even complete?!?!

This is bad on top of bad, following bad.

Maybe, but this take is assuming all the chips come into dealers at once, all appointments are scheduled in the same time frame, and labor shortages are still a concern by the time they arrive. Hell, if Ford was smart (cough) they’d make the chip that needs to be installed a module the customer could plug in very easily and offer a “customer installation kit” as an option to cut down on the potential problem you’re addressing.

 

[sirvegetable]

There are multiple issues to consider here, the first of which is that each state has their own laws regarding car sales. Some states will NOT let a partially assembled vehicle be delivered. Some will. This issue about shipping partially completed cars is NOT about getting them delivered to customers...

There are some other points that this is addressing at this time: storage (and costs) and insurance/liability (and costs). First, Ford is paying a LOT of money to store these vehicles. And were not just talking about Broncos, there are lots of other models this is affecting. Ford is paying daily fees to store these vehicle anywhere they can find. Second, they are having to pay the insurance to cover those vehicles while in storage.

Now here comes the fun part: transportation. With rising gas prices and an already thinly stretched supply chain, Ford is worried about how to get all these cars out without paying too much as costs go up. So, they will be shipping the cars now (the dealers have to sign agreements to accept the cars "as is" and then the dealers bear the insurance costs). This will hopefully save them time and money over the coming months and ease the pain of shipping.

Keep in mind, these cars are delivered by independent truckers and trucking companies. Ford does NOT own their own transports. So Trucker A can show up and say "Who's gonna pay me the most to move their cars?" and hold them all at gun point to get the highest fees right now. That's just gonna get worse.

In most cases, your partially assembled Bronco will be sitting at the dealership, where they will be unable to sell it, but you can go by and visit it. In the event that they ARE able to sell the vehicle and you take delivery, there will be no credits. You will be paying for every item listed on the window sticker and will be issued a "we owe" for any missing components. Just like if your car listed "floor mats" and they were missing at delivery, they would issue you a "we owe", but this time it might be a radio or power windows. Who knows? Could there be a rebate for some folks to offset the inconvenience? Sure. But I wouldn't count on it or even hope for it.

All this really does is move the vehicles and the liability to the dealerships from Ford. Maybe a few get delivered in some key states with lax laws.

>. So, they will be shipping the cars now (the dealers have to sign agreements to accept the cars "as is" and then the dealers bear the insurance costs). This will hopefully save them time and money over the coming months and ease the pain of shipping.

So have dealers been contacted? Mine hasn't and I haven't seen one post where someone has confirmed that dealers know anything about this plan. I'm not disregarding what you're saying I just want to have some confirmation on it.

 

[Big Guy]

I wonder what finally made them go this route. Running out of room for storing partially built vehicles? Logistical nightmare finishing those vehicles? Regardless, it's good news, we just have to hope it applies to Broncos since the article doesn't specify.

It's probably hard to send customers their 2-3 year old vehicle and present it as new. Ford Parts suppliers will likely only warranty their parts for 3 years from the time of purchase regardless what year Ford starts their vehicle warranty.

 

[TheDoctor]

>. So, they will be shipping the cars now (the dealers have to sign agreements to accept the cars "as is" and then the dealers bear the insurance costs). This will hopefully save them time and money over the coming months and ease the pain of shipping.

So have dealers been contacted? Mine hasn't and I haven't seen one post where someone has confirmed that dealers know anything about this plan. I'm not disregarding what you're saying I just want to have some confirmation on it.

This has nothing to do with Bronco. Only Explorer‘s have been confirmed.

 

[techdisaster]

There are multiple issues to consider here, the first of which is that each state has their own laws regarding car sales. Some states will NOT let a partially assembled vehicle be delivered. Some will. This issue about shipping partially completed cars is NOT about getting them delivered to customers...

There are some other points that this is addressing at this time: storage (and costs) and insurance/liability (and costs). First, Ford is paying a LOT of money to store these vehicles. And were not just talking about Broncos, there are lots of other models this is affecting. Ford is paying daily fees to store these vehicle anywhere they can find. Second, they are having to pay the insurance to cover those vehicles while in storage.

Now here comes the fun part: transportation. With rising gas prices and an already thinly stretched supply chain, Ford is worried about how to get all these cars out without paying too much as costs go up. So, they will be shipping the cars now (the dealers have to sign agreements to accept the cars "as is" and then the dealers bear the insurance costs). This will hopefully save them time and money over the coming months and ease the pain of shipping.

Keep in mind, these cars are delivered by independent truckers and trucking companies. Ford does NOT own their own transports. So Trucker A can show up and say "Who's gonna pay me the most to move their cars?" and hold them all at gun point to get the highest fees right now. That's just gonna get worse.

In most cases, your partially assembled Bronco will be sitting at the dealership, where they will be unable to sell it, but you can go by and visit it. In the event that they ARE able to sell the vehicle and you take delivery, there will be no credits. You will be paying for every item listed on the window sticker and will be issued a "we owe" for any missing components. Just like if your car listed "floor mats" and they were missing at delivery, they would issue you a "we owe", but this time it might be a radio or power windows. Who knows? Could there be a rebate for some folks to offset the inconvenience? Sure. But I wouldn't count on it or even hope for it.

All this really does is move the vehicles and the liability to the dealerships from Ford. Maybe a few get delivered in some key states with lax laws.

If the dealer has a fleet of unfinished Broncos, what’s preventing them from using them as donors and stripping them for parts to Frankenstein complete units?

If the dealer has three Broncos on the lot that are each missing parts one of the other two have. Might as well strip the parts from Bronco A and B in order to deliver Bronco C.

 

[Rkgzx9leftcoast]

I don't think Ford had contacted the dealers yet. According to the article Farley just told the meeting over the weekend.

I'm guessing thier will be more agreements sent out stating specific details.

These can be considered fully built , in that only some features, creature comforts may be missing. The wording....will get the missing parts within a year...makes me think they are going to put a delivery system in place. No way anyone involved wants a car sitting on a lot for a year.

Other manufacturers are doing this. We have never been in this position before, supply chain wise. Supplier shortages are impacting everything. I think Ford and other car manufacturers are saying....if you want to sell cars and stay in buisness...this is a part of doing so in current circumstances. Goes well beyond just the bronco.

 

[bigedizzle]

So let’s say the chip that your vehicle is missing is the chip that controls heated seats (or auto start or something else non essential). Would Ford allow the dealers to release the vehicles to us? Or would the dealers hold onto our Broncos until the part comes in?

ford rep for my zone told us today that any vehicles that are not missing any safety related items can be delivered.

 

[zjc26138]

ford rep for my zone told us today that any vehicles that are not missing any safety related items can be delivered.

I mean if all it would be missing is heated seats/ auto start-stop I would gladly take delivery of my Bronco.

 

[bigedizzle]

I was building a Super Duty for work yesterday to order and lot of options like auxiliary (upfitter) switches, cab lights etc aren’t even available. Basically no options are available.

This pops up...

Your dealership can get all the options you cn't on ford.com
I have done several super duty orders today. Also it will take 27 weeks to schedule a super duty if it has a bedliner, 5th wheel prep package or tonneau cover. leave those off for much faster scheduling. Also those who are ordering a black appearance package you are going to have to wait since the bedliner is included. My ford rep told us this morning

 

[Mean Red GT]

This has nothing to do with Bronco. Only Explorer‘s have been confirmed.

Yeah saw this article naming Explorers and mentioned F-150's without ASS
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/14/business/ford-gm-eliminate-options-chip-shortage/index.html

 

[Cornbred]

Your dealership can get all the options you cn't on ford.com
I have done several super duty orders today. Also it will take 27 weeks to schedule a super duty if it has a bedliner, 5th wheel prep package or tonneau cover. leave those off for much faster scheduling. Also those who are ordering a black appearance package you are going to have to wait since the bedliner is included. My ford rep told us this morning

thanks for the info

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