Skipping 2nd Gear

[wilbersk]

I noticed today that my Raptor with less than 900 miles on it seems to be shifting from 1st to 3rd gear in normal driving conditions around town. The shift is completely smooth, I only noticed by watching the digital gauge cluster. Is this normal or a concern?

I’ve taken it rock crawling twice since I got it. Not sure if that’s relevant to this or not though. I know the Raptor has a jerky shift from 1 to 2 in 4L/rock crawl mode, but also not sure if that’s relevant either.

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[Brian_B]

As long as it’s smooth - no problem

 

[wilbersk]

As long as it’s smooth - no problem

Not gonna wear out the gears unevenly or cause problems later? It’s definitely rough in 4L/rock crawl shift from 1 to 2, but again that seems to be a widespread thing and I’m not sure it’s related to this.

 

[Ducati1098]

1-3 is a completely normal shift strategy for the 10R

 

[wilbersk]

1-3 is a completely normal shift strategy for the 10R

Well that’s comforting to hear. Does seem weird but I’m sure there’s a reason for it.

 

[Ducati1098]

Well that’s comforting to hear. Does seem weird but I’m sure there’s a reason for it.

Just overall efficiency. It doesn’t need to hit all 10 gears for normal driving when a lot of the gear ratios are close together.

 

[Robs]

I noticed today that my Raptor with less than 900 miles on it seems to be shifting from 1st to 3rd gear in normal driving conditions around town. The shift is completely smooth, I only noticed by watching the digital gauge cluster. Is this normal or a concern?

I’ve taken it rock crawling twice since I got it. Not sure if that’s relevant to this or not though. I know the Raptor has a jerky shift from 1 to 2 in 4L/rock crawl mode, but also not sure if that’s relevant either.

I brought my black diamond into the dealership to check on what I thought was uneasy downshifting, very harsh when slowing down that would be like a clunk. The dealer test drove with me and noticed it, but said that these 10 speed transmissions will sometimes skip a gear, whether in acceleration or deceleration and said it was completely normal. It still doesn’t seem right to me as I’ve never had clunking issues in any other car even with 8 speed transmissions, so I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

 

[wilbersk]

I brought my black diamond into the dealership to check on what I thought was uneasy downshifting, very harsh when slowing down that would be like a clunk. The dealer test drove with me and noticed it, but said that these 10 speed transmissions will sometimes skip a gear, whether in acceleration or deceleration and said it was completely normal. It still doesn’t seem right to me as I’ve never had clunking issues in any other car even with 8 speed transmissions, so I guess we’ll have to wait and see.

Mine in normal drive modes is completely smooth. I’d be a little concerned about clunking too I don’t blame you.

 

[Brian_B]

These are also adaptive transmissions - they will change their shift points based on your driving behavior. There is a reset you can run in Forscan (or some ODB tools). They also used to reset if you just pulled the battery for a few minutes, not sure if the new ones do or not.

You can usually tell if someone else has drove and you come back and all of a sudden it shifts funky - takes a few miles of driving around for it to readapt.

Skipping gears totally normal - rough shifts or clunking is not, but it could be a symptom that it just hasn’t finished learning. It should ease up and get smooth after a half hour or so of driving

 

[2024Broncobadlandsasq]

1-3 is a completely normal shift strategy for the 10R

Not gonna wear out the gears unevenly or cause problems later? It’s definitely rough in 4L/rock crawl shift from 1 to 2, but again that seems to be a widespread thing and I’m not sure it’s related to this.

apparently there's a way to bring it back.... i wonder what the coding is for broncos

 

[Ducati1098]

apparently there's a way to bring it back.... i wonder what the coding is for broncos

Yikes.. this video is just full of inaccurate information. To be honest it just sounds like AI slop thrown together

To address the main reason you posted it, there is absolutely nothing you can change in forscan to eliminate the skip shifting.

When I have more time, later today or tomorrow, I’ll break down every single thing it’s completely wrong about, which is basically everything.

But for the love of god please don’t believe this stuff lol

 

[crenca]

Yikes.. this video is just full of inaccurate information. To be honest it just sounds like AI slop thrown together

To address the main reason you posted it, there is absolutely nothing you can change in forscan to eliminate the skip shifting.

When I have more time, later today or tomorrow, I’ll break down every single thing it’s completely wrong about, which is basically everything.

But for the love of god please don’t believe this stuff lol

Yea, the AI never explains the why. For example, if the line pressure is X (what it calls "low"), and it was engineered that way, why would Y pressure (a higher pressure) be easier on internals - the opposite is just as likely (from an armchair AI engineering standpoint ) . Heck, skipping gears would intuitively be easier on internals, not harder.

Apparently there has been a surge of these AI videos on car maintenance/longevity subjects lately. The Oil Geek has broken down a couple of them (on his subject of Oil maintenance). It actually takes some effort, because the AI is usually not just out right in error, but begins at a point of truth but takes it to a wrong conclusion so it takes a bit of explaining why it is wrong...

 

[Brian_B]

‘effin Skynet trying to make us break all our cars

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