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Ok, stupid question. I won't be rock crawling with my BD, just fire roads and general exploring in the mountains, desert, etc. I would think the M190 with 33s would hold up as long as i don't abuse it right?
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Ok, stupid question. I won't be rock crawling with my BD, just fire roads and general exploring in the mountains, desert, etc. I would think the M190 with 33s would hold up as long as i don't abuse it right?
GOOD question!
 

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The new Advantek D30 and D44 should of been given new designations.
Comparing them to the older axles is like directly comparing a G6 Bronco to a EB, because they share a name too.

That said, the M190's center differential is actually rated by Dana as being stronger than the new Jeep D44.
The M210 is significantly stronger.
The pinion teeth of the M190 and M210 engage the ring gear closer to the center of the gear.
The D44 and D30 have the pinion closer to the top, for driveshaft clearance.
This puts more deflection stress on the D30/44 pinion.

Also, the ring gears use an new convex curved tooth shape, that increases the % of ring gear and pinion tooth contact, while reducing friction.

As @Apples has said, the CV joints are going to be the weak link in the front axle.

The good news is that the Ford engineers made the Sasquatch CV size the default half shaft for all Broncos.
Also, there is only one half shaft.
It is interchangeable L/R, Base to Wildtrack.

Finally, Ford has stated that the Bronco is easily lifted. Just like the Wrangler.
Ford Dealers have watched Jeep Dealers get fat and happy putting MOPAR warrenty approved 2" lifts and 37" tires on Wranglers.
Either straight off the showroom floor, or as a used sale still under warranty.

Ford has directly stated that Bronco dealers will be able to get in on this action.
Big money is at stake.

All of this means that the Bronco hard parts will handle 37" tires.
Just add lift and rubber.

M190 Broncos will be like D30 Wranglers. 35" if you are lightfooted on the trail. 37" if it's a mall crawler.

M210 +37" will be gtg for the lightfooted.
We don't know yet if the 40" tires will be usable as a mall crawler without heavy modifications to things like the ball joints and steering.
Probably not. The 40" donuts are very heavy.
 

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Ok, stupid question. I won't be rock crawling with my BD, just fire roads and general exploring in the mountains, desert, etc. I would think the M190 with 33s would hold up as long as i don't abuse it right?
You should be completely OK with light wheeling.
Most Wranglers are running around on the weaker D30 axle and 35" tires don't make them explode in parking lots, or fly apart on the highway.

Don't drive it like it's a Sasquatch or Rubicon, or even a Black Diamond on 32" tires and you'll be fine.
 

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I agree. I tried very hard to make this work for the OBX without messing around with a Badlands....as you could see with my work and research on the 'Will 33s Fit' sticky thread.....which they do. but then we found out gearing and 4x4 were each $795 ($1590). So $795 lost...and I realized id probably want to buy 17s to get C load 33s, instead of E loads on the 18s, another $1,000+ lost...and maybe front leveling kit...plus cost of tires....but given the wonky offsets on the wheels, innacurate speedo reading, no real lift, etc. I'd be better off with a sasquatch build from the factory. It would be within $1,000 at the point. So at the end of the day, I tore off the bandaid and tacked on the sasquatch package to the OBX.
 
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OBX wheels look like they belong on the bronco sport.

Where's the option for this beast we were teased with:

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Since I'm going with the BD, 4.46s are already standard, and we don't yet know what the ford performance 2 inch lift is going to be.

For all we know, it could be the springs/shocks from the sasquach package by themselves.

If you get the OBX, just get the largest numerical axle ratio you can and we'll have to wait on the lift info. Or you can squach it. Lol.
 

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I absolutely agree. The non Sas Badlands is near perfect mechanically. But 10K more than my one locker B B.
Best we can get imo. BL on stock 33s. I know everyone seems to want the 35s but the new Bronco is already so much wider, longer and heavier than the EB's that if you go another 3 inches wider with the Sasquatch, you'll be bashing even more stuff in the tight trails. If you're always in the open, then great. I weighed the 33 vs 35 a lot! Decided on going with the stock BL which is still 7 inches wider than the original Bronco, 21 inches longer and up to 1500lbs or more heavier. Didn't want to add any more size or weight to it. Just depends on what your trails are like in the end.
 

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And honestly, I think we should be happy that Ford even offers a sasquatch on all trims. It would be greedy to expect a junior sasquatch package for all trims. Ford also did us another favor of offering the Badlands / Wildtrak with the mid package standard. Imagine if they made those two models with the high or lux package as entry level, it would cost you that much more to step into a Badlands if you wanted 33s. It's not as if we expect Jeep to offer Rubicon suspension wheels and tires across all trims. It defeats the purpose of tiered trims.
 

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It makes no sense for Ford to do this to themselves and it will not happen. other packages may be offered in later years like a cold weather package. But def not a babysquatch. Thats called badlands already...

The trim levels are carefully designed to make you move up trims as you want more features.

Its not a la carte style, there would be too many variants to make and would slow production.

Its either pony up the money for the good stuff now or later down the road buy a lesser trim used and upgrade where you want to IMO.
 

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OBX wheels look like they belong on the bronco sport.

Where's the option for this beast we were teased with:

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100% agree.

However the lack of that pretty saddle leather, warmed up to the marine vinyl and saved me few grand. I did have to cough up the $$$ for the upgraded wheels. The base wheels are terrible. Almost an exact copy of jeeps.
 

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I'd definitely go for a Squatch lite package for the Base....
All I want is V6, adv auto 4x4, some bigger 32-33" tires to fill the wheelwells, and a lsd for the rear.
Closest match is a $40k BaseSquatch (which I ordered).
Great deal for the money, but it's a little overkill for what I want. I don't see a Lite package being more than a 2k discount from a Squatch, so there isn't much incentive for Ford to offer it.

And if I were to add 'Nite' graphics to my Bronco, I'd rather it be referred to a "Squatch in the Nite', than a 'Nite Lite'.🙄
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