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I don't know it has to do with the last mile limitations (can you get updates over mobile networks?). The modality problem is more a symptom of the complication of vehicles that, for a hundred years, were not networked and now have to be.

You've got wired, plugging your vehicle into a local ethernet; you've got wireless, connecting it to a wireless network; you've got mobile network (which you, not Ford, will pay for), and you've got maybe some near-field connections like Bluetooth (using a wired network for connectivity). That's all pretty complicated, and it's only made worse when the technology isn't well integrated, as my Bronco's seems to be.

My bigger concern is Ford not supporting the OS in five or ten years and getting no updates, and being unable to upgrade. Forced obsolescence by technology fiat. Maybe that's why there's a physical speed gauge on the dash, but I doubt it.
How is the owner paying for the wireless connection? Agree on the support for older vehicles. Ten years is overly optimistic. Likely the chipset(s) won’t be supported in 10 years by the carriers. 3G does quickly and N-2 support window is narrowing.
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How is the owner paying for the wireless connection? Agree on the support for older vehicles. Ten years is overly optimistic. Likely the chipset(s) won’t be supported in 10 years by the carriers. 3G does quickly and N-2 support window is narrowing.
If it uses a mobile 4G/5G network, you pay for that. By that I mean, Ford's not going to give your vehicle a phone number without charging you (a la OnStar) and wanting to make money off that arrangement.
 

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If it uses a mobile 4G/5G network, you pay for that.
I don’t pay the vehicle wireless…on any of my cars. Are you saying you pay a separate monthly bill for the truck’s cellular link?
 

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I don’t pay the vehicle wireless…on any of my cars. Are you saying you pay a separate monthly bill for the truck’s cellular link?
It's probably using your phone. If you drive away from your wifi networks and turn off your cell phone, do you still have it? If it does, you'd have to have a phone number, and maybe you're getting a free intro, but eventually that will be a charge. It doesn't make any sense otherwise, Ford isn't a mobile carrier and would have to partner with a carrier to access their 4G/5G network somehow. Which means they'd want to charge you.

To wit: OnStar is a satellite phone carrier system. hence the high per-minute cost and vast coverage area. Highly, highly doubt GM will ever use that for update distribution.
 

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It's probably using your phone. If you drive away from your wifi networks and turn off your cell phone, do you still have it? If it does, you'd have to have a phone number, and maybe you're getting a free intro, but eventually that will be a charge. It doesn't make any sense otherwise, Ford isn't a mobile carrier and would have to partner with a carrier to access their 4G/5G network somehow. Which means they'd want to charge you.

To wit: OnStar is a satellite phone carrier system. hence the high per-minute cost and vast coverage area. Highly, highly doubt GM will ever use that for update distribution.
It’s not using your phone cellular for updates. Think about it. It has a cellular chipset in the vehicle. It does updates when you’re not in the vehicle - even when not connected to Wi-Fi. They partner with carriers to access the vehicle.

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How Do OTA Updates Work?
To enable OTA updates, cars must be equipped with a telematics control unit (TCU), which is a piece of hardware that contains a mobile communication interface (e.g., LTE, 5G) and a memory to store driving and vehicle data. The TCU must also be able to recover data in case if an update needs to be removed. Whenever an update is available, the OEM delivers the software package to its vehicles from a cloud-based server.
 

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It’s not using your phone cellular for updates. Think about it. It has a cellular chipset in the vehicle. It does updates when you’re not in the vehicle - even when not connected to Wi-Fi. They partner with carriers to access the vehicle.

Basic overview:


How Do OTA Updates Work?
To enable OTA updates, cars must be equipped with a telematics control unit (TCU), which is a piece of hardware that contains a mobile communication interface (e.g., LTE, 5G) and a memory to store driving and vehicle data. The TCU must also be able to recover data in case if an update needs to be removed. Whenever an update is available, the OEM delivers the software package to its vehicles from a cloud-based server.
Well, since I only got one update while connected to my local Wifi, I had reason to think otherwise, and nothing since, but perhaps there is one. Interesting. I suspect the reference to driving and vehicle data out-of-band is probably the bigger incentive for Ford, data wise.
 

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It’s not using your phone cellular for updates. Think about it. It has a cellular chipset in the vehicle. It does updates when you’re not in the vehicle - even when not connected to Wi-Fi. They partner with carriers to access the vehicle.

Basic overview:


How Do OTA Updates Work?
To enable OTA updates, cars must be equipped with a telematics control unit (TCU), which is a piece of hardware that contains a mobile communication interface (e.g., LTE, 5G) and a memory to store driving and vehicle data. The TCU must also be able to recover data in case if an update needs to be removed. Whenever an update is available, the OEM delivers the software package to its vehicles from a cloud-based server.
Ok, ran out real quick to try to see if it sees the 4.2.2.2 update (đź‘€) and it told me I had to plug in my phone. Then it told me my 4.2.1.2. is the latest and greatest, no update available. Don't know what's going on with that, but that's what happened.
 

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Unless this makes apple carplay start up within 10 seconds of starting the vehicle like in my brand new Chevy work truck, no one gives a shit. I can damn near drive a mile down the road leaving my neighborhood before it figures out my phone is in the bronco and connect to CarPlay.
Or realizing my husband's phone is not in the car and hasn't been for several days (and it's not even his car) 🤬
 

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That’s odd. My 2 2021
Ok, ran out real quick to try to see if it sees the 4.2.2.2 update (đź‘€) and it told me I had to plug in my phone. Then it told me my 4.2.1.2. is the latest and greatest, no update available. Don't know what's going on with that, but that's what happened.
Just tested mine with no phones or Wi-Fi connected and the truck checked with Ford for the update. No message about not having a phone connected. Not sure what your system is doing.
 

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That’s odd. My 2 2021

Just tested mine with no phones or Wi-Fi connected and the truck checked with Ford for the update. No message about not having a phone connected. Not sure what your system is doing.
The truck absolutely has a cellular modem in it. The tin-foil crowd early on were looking for ways to disable it. It's a pre-paid arrangement with Ford and I think AT&T. That same modem can become a paid thing if you choose to light up the cellular hot-spot feature, though it is only 4G so the speeds are just okay. A mechanic friend of mine was able to ping my truck with just my VIN number through Ford's tools and retrieve a bunch of live data from it.
 

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Anyone else get this notice or know what’s included besides “easy listening updates”. What’s really odd is that 4.2.2.1 was the same version of the last update from months ago.

Hopefully my bronco plays more than smooth jazz now.
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The truck absolutely has a cellular modem in it. The tin-foil crowd early on were looking for ways to disable it. It's a pre-paid arrangement with Ford and I think AT&T. That same modem can become a paid thing if you choose to light up the cellular hot-spot feature, though it is only 4G so the speeds are just okay. A mechanic friend of mine was able to ping my truck with just my VIN number through Ford's tools and retrieve a bunch of live data from it.
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Came to read about the update, saw a bunch of arguing back and forth about fords roll out of the update smh.

Just got this Aug 26th - the update isn't really clear besides CarPlay? But haven't had an issue with CarPlay yet and it is used everyday.
 

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Just got the 4.2.2.1 update this morning on my way to breakfast
 
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Yeah. Not really sure why people get upset at updates. Seems a little silly to be mad about more features.

Ironically I already got 4.2.2 as well.
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