Porch pirate Bronco driver

[cbrenthus]

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[BluebroncoNC]

Who said a thief doesn't have a good taste in automobiles? Hopefully, he gets caught... Too bad they don't impound vehicles involved in theft, or do they?

 

[flip]

Assuming it isn't stolen and the modem is activated, Ford knows exactly who the f this is.

 

[5GENIDN]

Assuming it isn't stolen and the modem is activated, Ford knows exactly who the f this is.

Yes but will a warrant need to be served for Ford to provide the info?

 

[flip]

Yes but will a warrant need to be served for Ford to provide the info?

Yea and I don't even know how a DA would go about trying to pierce through their robust legal wall to get to it. A judge would almost certainly require a plate or VIN number which the state would know who it belonged to. The only thing they might be able to go after is location data for that VIN on a specific day and time to verify that vehicle was at that address. Doubt they would volunteer anything more than that if it even got that far.

It just suck to know you have a specific vehicle, most likely involved in property theft, probably registered in Florida, has a bunch of stickers in the lower left of the windshield, the location data for that vehicle is probably sitting on a Ford server somewhere and there's no way to get to it.

 

[userdude]

Yea and I don't even know how a DA would go about trying to pierce through their robust legal wall to get to it. A judge would almost certainly require a plate or VIN number which the state would know who it belonged to. The only thing they might be able to go after is location data for that VIN on a specific day and time to verify that vehicle was at that address. Doubt they would volunteer anything more than that if it even got that far.

It just suck to know you have a specific vehicle, most likely involved in property theft, probably registered in Florida, has a bunch of stickers in the lower left of the windshield, the location data for that vehicle is probably sitting on a Ford server somewhere and there's no way to get to it.

Ford sells it to a third party, who aggregates it to a another service, who creates a "whoopsie!" web page where those "in the know" can lookup and get just enough data to match it with other data that says "only one white Bronco fits those parameters". You might laff, but it's been done already.

Really a lot more likely the police don't care.

 

[flip]

Ford sells it to a third party, who aggregates it to a another service, who creates a "whoopsie!" web page where those "in the know" can lookup and get just enough data to match it with other data that says "only one white Bronco fits those parameters". You might laff, but it's been done already.

Really a lot more likely the police don't care.

Just thinking out loud but would a home wi-fi router be able to see the bronco modem hitting it? If so, would the bronco modem have some sort of unique MAC address that would be logged in the router? I don't know, just asking.

 

[V1Rotate]

Yea and I don't even know how a DA would go about trying to pierce through their robust legal wall to get to it. A judge would almost certainly require a plate or VIN number which the state would know who it belonged to. The only thing they might be able to go after is location data for that VIN on a specific day and time to verify that vehicle was at that address. Doubt they would volunteer anything more than that if it even got that far.

It just suck to know you have a specific vehicle, most likely involved in property theft, probably registered in Florida, has a bunch of stickers in the lower left of the windshield, the location data for that vehicle is probably sitting on a Ford server somewhere and there's no way to get to it.

I'm guessing if they were trying to solve a murder they *might* be more motivated but with a porch pirate I'm assuming they'll file it under "too much trouble/too expensive" to get the data

 

[CV428]

Our neighborhood is a porch-pirate magnet around this time of year. We had a few expensive packages nabbed a few years ago so I decided to get even.

I leave a decoy box out on my porch around this time just in case of porch-pirates. I put a turkey baking bag in a box, fill it with expired food, rotten milk, and maybe a few dog turds just for insult to injury. I use security packaging tape to force the thief to use a knife to cut the tape and very likely slice open the bag at the same time since I spray-glued the bag to the inside flaps before taping it.

I leave one out in plain sight and move it every other day. They disappear within 2 weeks. I'd do far worse but I don't need the ATF sniffing around.

 

[userdude]

Just thinking out loud but would a home wi-fi router be able to see the bronco modem hitting it? If so, would the bronco modem have some sort of unique MAC address that would be logged in the router? I don't know, just asking.

That's how cell tower triangulation works. I always set my wi-fi not to get frisky, but really I don't know if wi-fi logs things like attempts to connect (and gets identifiable info). I know the opposite used to happen (wardriving) that got Google in a big pickle when they logged all wifi routers that were open in the early days of the mapping cars and then got in trouble for doing it. So it's possible.

 

[flip]

I'm guessing if they were trying to solve a murder they *might* be more motivated but with a porch pirate I'm assuming they'll file it under "too much trouble/too expensive" to get the data

Right. This is where I'm interested in the private route assuming a victim had the time and $$ to pursue if they wanted to. If you had a MAC, you would think a private attorney could send Ford legal a letter with the information and see what comes back.

I guess moral of the story is if your driveway is oriented like this, get a good resolution camera and mount it to the mail box post looking back at the house.

 

[userdude]

I'm guessing if they were trying to solve a murder they *might* be more motivated but with a porch pirate I'm assuming they'll file it under "too much trouble/too expensive" to get the data

If it was particularly bad, there was already a lot of evidence and probably somebody important threw a fit. Then maybe they'd go arrest someone. Maybe.

We had on campus cops (state police!) who literally slammed their notebooks shut, got up and said "we will never police smoking outside of buildings" and walked out of the meeting (the president of the university was mandating it). They got their way for a while. This is kinda the same. Get back out on the highway and bring in some revenue.

 

[V1Rotate]

Right. This is where I'm interested in the private route assuming a victim had the time and $$ to pursue if they wanted to. If you had a MAC, you would think a private attorney could send Ford legal a letter with the information and see what comes back.

Yeah if it were my stuff then I'd probably just feel bad for them and assume they needed it more than I did and that life will catch up with them eventually as it does.

But deep pockets, super vendictive folks or a really valuable item might pursuade the powers that be.

In either case I'd like to see the victim do what you described above and see how it shakes out just for curiosities sake. As you stated previously all the data is there it just needs access

 

[userdude]

Right. This is where I'm interested in the private route assuming a victim had the time and $$ to pursue if they wanted to. If you had a MAC, you would think a private attorney could send Ford legal a letter with the information and see what comes back.

I guess moral of the story is if your driveway is oriented like this, get a good resolution camera and mount it to the mail box post looking back at the house.

The guy probably lives like five blocks away. These douches aren't master criminals.

 

[adam1991]

It just suck to know you have a specific vehicle, most likely involved in property theft, probably registered in Florida, has a bunch of stickers in the lower left of the windshield, the location data for that vehicle is probably sitting on a Ford server somewhere and there's no way to get to it.

no, it's great to know that the state has no access to such data.

Get a grip, people. You really, REALLY don't want that.

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