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@Snacktime and @SierraBronco, the background here. I've already got the Fox Performance 2.5 shocks that are intended to be used with HOSS 2.0 or 3.0 takeoff springs. BUT I wanted/needed a higher spring rate. I went with the Eibach HD/lift HOSS replacement springs. I was hoping to set the Fox Shocks to zero lift and let the Eibach springs do their thing . That worked out pretty well in the front, but the rear came out higher than I wanted it probably because of my total 2-door coolness. I have run out of adjustment in the rear shock and I'm still high. Also, with the very little pre-load in the back, I'm thinking it's maling for a little unbalanced feel. I'm fairly satisfied with the spring rate, but I think I need a slightly shorter rear spring. I could cut a coil out, but the Eibach springs are not a straight wound spring, being progressive at the top, and a bit tapered down in diameter to the perch diameter at the bottom.

Hence my curiosity in OEM spring rates.
 

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@Snacktime and @SierraBronco, the background here. I've already got the Fox Performance 2.5 shocks that are intended to be used with HOSS 2.0 or 3.0 takeoff springs. BUT I wanted/needed a higher spring rate. I went with the Eibach HD/lift HOSS replacement springs. I was hoping to set the Fox Shocks to zero lift and let the Eibach springs do their thing . That worked out pretty well in the front, but the rear came out higher than I wanted it probably because of my total 2-door coolness. I have run out of adjustment in the rear shock and I'm still high. Also, with the very little pre-load in the back, I'm thinking it's maling for a little unbalanced feel. I'm fairly satisfied with the spring rate, but I think I need a slightly shorter rear spring. I could cut a coil out, but the Eibach springs are not a straight wound spring, being progressive at the top, and a bit tapered down in diameter to the perch diameter at the bottom.

Hence my curiosity in OEM spring rates.
Pretty sure your are running a 3-4" over stock coil, eibach regulars are a 1-3" spring. You might want to try Dobinson springs.
 
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Pretty sure your are running a 3-4" over stock coil, eibach regulars are a 1-3" spring. You might want to try Dobinson springs.
Eibach advertises the rear as +1.2" - +1.8" lift and +500 lbs on a HOSS shock body. I'm replacing my leaking Eibach Pro Truck 2.0s. With those, I started with the standard spring on the rear and it was no bueno. Super soft and squishy, lots of bottoming out. Replaced the standard springs with the +500 lb HD Pro Truck spring and it was mucho bueno, though I had the rear shock perches two threads up from being full low with those HD springs, too. It was about 1/2" or 3/4" of rake on those, but it is like 1.5" to 2.0" of rake on these Foxes.

I believe it's my WT 2-door. A '22 4dr, V6, Auto Badlands curb weight is over 500 pounds more than my '22 WT was from the factory. I've definitely added 500 pounds to MY TRUCK, but I don't think I've added 1,000 pounds to my WT (certainly not over the rear) to also account for the model to model weight differences.

I think I need an HD spring with no lift. I can then get the lift I need from the Fox Shock perch adjustment. I may be thick, but when I checked, I didn't see Dobinson advertising that on their web page. I called and asked Eibach, and they said they offer no such animal.
 

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Eibach advertises the rear as +1.2" - +1.8" lift and +500 lbs on a HOSS shock body. I'm replacing my leaking Eibach Pro Truck 2.0s. With those, I started with the standard spring on the rear and it was no bueno. Super soft and squishy, lots of bottoming out. Replaced the standard springs with the +500 lb HD Pro Truck spring and it was mucho bueno, though I had the rear shock perches two threads up from being full low with those HD springs, too. It was about 1/2" or 3/4" of rake on those, but it is like 1.5" to 2.0" of rake on these Foxes.

I believe it's my WT 2-door. A '22 4dr, V6, Auto Badlands curb weight is over 500 pounds more than my '22 WT was from the factory. I've definitely added 500 pounds to MY TRUCK, but I don't think I've added 1,000 pounds to my WT (certainly not over the rear) to also account for the model to model weight differences.

I think I need an HD spring with no lift. I can then get the lift I need from the Fox Shock perch adjustment. I may be thick, but when I checked, I didn't see Dobinson advertising that on their web page. I called and asked Eibach, and they said they offer no such animal.
Find out the spring rate and length of the coils you currently have. You could then measure the compressed length while sitting, and from that information figure out what springs might be better suited for what you’re trying to accomplish. @87-Z28 is very helpful on those calcs
 

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Not sure it is ethical to share this but.. WTF… here is a portrait of 87-z28.

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Weren't you on Pee Wee's Playhouse!?!
 

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Not sure it is ethical to share this but.. WTF… here is a portrait of 87-z28. There is something seriously wrong with that dude.

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…always ready to “spring” into action…

I’m so sorry
 
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So I finally got my typical trail load out, filled it up with gas, and went to the gravel supply place across from Costco to weigh ol' Buck. Turns out he's 6280 pounds all trail ready and me and the wife in it. Dogs would add another 100 pounds. Now mine is a 2-door...but @SierraBronco, you got the Pure Pork Award being 6250 with just you in it....and I'm willing to wager you'd spend a whole lot of time with your feet off the ground if we were to teater totter together! Of coarse most of your Bronco pork is custom bad assedness instead of bolt on crap like mine. So, mega style points with that!

At any rate, 5740 pounds is GVWR for a '22 2-door WT. So I'm 540 pounds over my trucks max, but only 70 pounds over max of a V6, 10-sp, 4-door Badlands. I'm not sure what that means for Eibachs "+500 pound" spring, but I'm guessing it's part of my rear ride height challenge. It does ride and handle better with the load out. It sits a tiny bit closer to level as well (unloaded and loaded pic below). I'm thinking I'll put a 1,000 or so miles on it and see where it all settles out. Im thinking adjustable rear links may help the unladen condition, maybe. I may be able to bring the front up a wee bit too if the springs settle a front and rear. I suppose I could replace my current steel rear bumper with one built like an M1 Abrams and having a spare swing out, then I can strap four or five fuel cans on it. The fuel wouldn't hurt with my tiny 2-door tank.

It's good, but I think it can be better with some tweaks. I'd love to see how these Fox shocks work on a stock Bronco using the OEM springs. I suspect the damping would be better than in my case. I'm pretty sure they would be far better than the HOSS 2.0 Bilstiens. Maybe I can talk my buddy into swapping his out on his pristine '22 4-door HOSS 2.0 WT. I'll try to put a pressure sell on him....but he's a tight wad, except when it comes to wine and whiskey. :)

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So I finally got my typical trail load out, filled it up with gas, and went to the gravel supply place across from Costco to weigh ol' Buck. Turns out he's 6280 pounds all trail ready and me and the wife in it. Dogs would add another 100 pounds. Now mine is a 2-door...but @SierraBronco, you got the Pure Pork Award being 6250 with just you in it....and I'm willing to wager you'd spend a whole lot of time with your feet off the ground if we were to teater totter together! Of coarse most of your Bronco pork is custom bad assedness instead of bolt on crap like mine. So, mega style points with that!

At any rate, 5740 pounds is GVWR for a '22 2-door WT. So I'm 540 pounds over my trucks max, but only 70 pounds over max of a V6, 10-sp, 4-door Badlands. I'm not sure what that means for Eibachs "+500 pound" spring, but I'm guessing it's part of my rear ride height challenge. It does ride and handle better with the load out. It sits a tiny bit closer to level as well (unloaded and loaded pic below). I'm thinking I'll put a 1,000 or so miles on it and see where it all settles out. Im thinking adjustable rear links may help the unladen condition, maybe. I may be able to bring the front up a wee bit too if the springs settle a front and rear. I suppose I could replace my current steel rear bumper with one built like an M1 Abrams and having a spare swing out, then I can strap four or five fuel cans on it. The fuel wouldn't hurt with my tiny 2-door tank.

It's good, but I think it can be better with some tweaks. I'd love to see how these Fox shocks work on a stock Bronco using the OEM springs. I suspect the damping would be better than in my case. I'm pretty sure they would be far better than the HOSS 2.0 Bilstiens. Maybe I can talk my buddy into swapping his out on his pristine '22 4-door HOSS 2.0 WT. I'll try to put a pressure sell on him....but he's a tight wad, except when it comes to wine and whiskey. :)

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Three shocks per corner does seem to add up…😬

Are your springs not broke in then?
 
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Are your springs not broke in then?
No. Only have a few hundred miles on them and I haven't gotten off road yet to really flex it all a bit, either. My rear pinion angle isn't GREAT, but I think it will.be tolerable for a while. I'm very curious how the hydraulic top outs work.
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