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Given the fuel dilution that most of these Ecoboost engines have, I am skeptical that longer oil life is possible even with a bypass filter system.

Anyone have UOAs to share that used gas chromatography to confirm the fuel content?
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Given the fuel dilution that most of these Ecoboost engines have, I am skeptical that longer oil life is possible even with a bypass filter system.

Anyone have UOAs to share that used gas chromatography to confirm the fuel content?

My goal is not longer oil changes since the cost of those is insignificant over the life of the engine. Oil and filter(s) change (including the bypass) is equivalent the cost of an extra tank of fuel every 5k miles.

Instead, here are my goals with the bypass:
  • cleaner/pristine oil since oil cooled turbos have higher temperatures and increased blow-by
  • remove 2-20µ wear particles

Notes:
  • Frantz claims 8-10µ particles are wear particles
  • Insane Diesel says that sub 1µ particles are wear particles
  • I have seen claims that soot particles sizes are .5µ-1.5µ and soot particulate less than 1µ is considered non-wear (this is mostly relevant for diesels)
  • Stock/factory hi-flow filters only filter down to 20µ-30µ so it's impossible to not have wear contaminants without a bypass filter - even with new oil.
If only we had the Carfax+fuelly equivalent for UOA history for a given vehicle that would provide another tier of premium vehicles on the used market. Sadly I have not found a platform that allows consolidating and anonymizing UOA reports. It seems no matter what UOA vendor you use, they provide PDFs to the requestor and there's no crowd-sourced or common platform of these that I've been able to find.

Stay tuned, I'll have an oil analysis done in another 1k miles putting me at the 2k miles on the oil.
 
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Is he Baxter worth it? Seems like there's enough residual on cam lobes etc to cover 1.5 secs....
"Worth it" is a very subjective and multi-part query. If you are looking to mitigate dry-starts, there's no UOA, testing, breakaways, wear inspections etc. that I've seen Baxter or anyone else produce that would tell us the answer to it. My intuition is the dry-start may add some extra days to the life of the engine, but it may be so insignificant that the cost outweighs the claimed benefits.

I think Baxter is wrapped around the axle on the dry-start issue and trying to promote that as their primary value proposition. In my mind that's a very remote quaternary or quinary side benefit. I have only seen claims by various people that it sounded quieter by standing next to the engine upon dry-start. There's no real test data I've seen to prove any of their claims.

I'd be more focused on the following:
  • toolless filter change
  • no need to change o-rings
  • eliminate the possible breakage of the factory plastic oil filter cap stem breaking off in the engine
  • 40% lower cost oil filter
  • visual checks to make sure the filter was changed and at what mileage (a sticker on top of the spin-on filter)

See "Baxter Data Points, Decisions, Dilemmas" from here --> https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/bypass-micron-filter-install.105156/page-2#post-2650781
 

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My goal is not longer oil changes since the cost of those is insignificant over the life of the engine. Oil and filter(s) change (including the bypass) is equivalent the cost of an extra tank of fuel every 5k miles.

Instead, here are my goals with the bypass:
  • cleaner/pristine oil since oil cooled turbos have higher temperatures and increased blow-by
  • remove 2-20µ wear particles

Notes:
  • Frantz claims 8-10µ particles are wear particles
  • Insane Diesel says that sub 1µ particles are wear particles
  • I have seen claims that soot particles .5µ-1.5µ and soot less than 1µ is considered non-wear (this is mostly relevant for diesels)
  • Stock/factory hi-flow filters only filter down to 20µ-30µ so it's impossible to not have wear contaminants without a bypass filter - even with new oil.
If only we had the Carfax+fuelly equivalent for UOA history for a given vehicle that would provide another tier of premium vehicles on the used market. Sadly I have not found a platform that allows consolidating and anonymizing UOA reports. It seems no matter what UOA vendor you use, they provide PDFs to the requestor and there's no crowd-sourced or common platform of these that I've been able to find.

Stay tuned, I'll have an oil analysis done in another 1k miles putting me at the 2k miles on the oil.
Something to note is that (as an example), if an oil filter is rated 99.9% efficient at 20 microns, it means that 99.9 % of 20 micron particles are captured on a single pass.

But... that does not mean it only filters 20 micron and larger particles. It will still capture smaller ones—just with progressively lower efficiency. For example, that same filter might capture 90% of 15 µm particles and 60% of 10 µm particles.

Below is an illustrative table showing how a high-quality full-flow oil filter (nominal 20 µm, 99.9 % @ 20 µm) might perform across particle sizes. Actual numbers vary by manufacturer, media type (cellulose, synthetic, microglass), and test standard.


Particle Size (Microns)Example Efficiency (%)Beta Ratio (β)Notes
40 µm100 %Virtually all particles ≥ 40 µm are caught
30 µm99.99 %10,000Near total capture
25 µm99.9 %1,000Rated efficiency point
20 µm99.0 %100Industry “absolute” rating
15 µm90 %10High efficiency but some passage
10 µm60 %2.5Moderate filtration
5 µm25 %1.3Some very fine particles pass
< 5 µm< 10 %≈ 1Essentially unfiltered (still possible for microglass media)

Interpretation:
  • At 20 µm, it traps virtually all particles.
  • At 15 µm, still highly effective (90 %).
  • At 10 µm, about half of the fine particles pass through.
  • Synthetic or microglass filters may extend high efficiency down to 10 µm or even 5 µm.
Additionally, with rare exceptions, such as the piston ring clearances to the cylinder walls and ball bearing type turbochargers--which I do not think is being used in the Ecoboost engines--nearly all bearing clearances are greater than 20 microns in modern engines. The exception would be the xW-16, xW-12, xW-08 engines, which have tighter clearances (but larger bearing surfaces).

So, while a bypass filter can absolutely trap the 15 micron or smaller particles, IF (and I said if) anything smaller than 20 microns does not cause wear, then it is somewhat pointless. The question would be how much longer a bypass filter system will allow an engine to last versus standard filters. Likely something, but at what point is it diminishing returns? I have read more than once that for the average engine, the ROI for a bypass system is a "negative number".

I am not against them — I ran one on a 6.7L PowerStroke that generated a ton of soot, and for that application, it made sense. I am not sure that it does for an Ecoboost, but I love seeing data.

As for the UOAs, before you could consolidate any of them, you would have to ensure that all test methods and controls are EXACTLY the same, else, it would only be a generalization of the data and not a direct comparison. The data would not be worthless, but the "drift" has to be considered.
 

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So, while a bypass filter can absolutely trap the 15 micron or smaller particles, IF (and I said if) anything smaller than 20 microns does not cause wear, then it is somewhat pointless. The question would be how much longer a bypass filter system will allow an engine to last versus standard filters. Likely something, but at what point is it diminishing returns? I have read more than once that for the average engine, the ROI for a bypass system is a "negative number".

As for the UOAs, before you could consolidate any of them, you would have to ensure that all test methods and controls are EXACTLY the same, else, it would only be a generalization of the data and not a direct comparison. The data would not be worthless, but the "drift" has to be considered.
I won't know until I see it through which costs me very little to go through the experiment. The downside is like anything detrimental to health, once you've had a diagnosis it's too late to undo it. I previously got new cars every year so I did the minimum to them. Now, with inflation, recalls, quality, used values, and unwanted tech I'm setting up to keep what I've got long term.

Edit: I suppose you could spend the most money, do the best maintenance, and just be unlucky with a lemon or a Monday/Friday build and conclude that maintenance does not matter based on empirical evidence.

This guy claims he put the Insane Diesel bypass on at 100k miles, did the maintenance, and used his truck to tow all its life.

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As for the UOAs, before you could consolidate any of them, you would have to ensure that all test methods and controls are EXACTLY the same, else, it would only be a generalization of the data and not a direct comparison. The data would not be worthless, but the "drift" has to be considered.
I was more interested in it in the way of medical records or VIN checks. You see what happened along the way to a very specific vehicle. In the general anonymized aggregate sense, like Fuelly does for MPG, you would be able to sample longevity of a specific vehicle and oil combo.
 

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I'm not gonna bother with it until there's clear evidence of added wear resulting from insufficient residual lube especially with synthetic....that ks everyone for inputs.
 

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Another way to look at installing a bypass filter or the Baxter adapter is "would the engine most likely fare better with or without it?" - Occam's razor.

Assuming paying for parts is a non-issue and also setting aside doomsday warranty denial alarmists.
 
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I won't know until I see it through which costs me very little to go through the experiment. The downside is like anything detrimental to health, once you've had a diagnosis it's too late to undo it. I previously got new cars every year so I did the minimum to them. Now, with inflation, recalls, quality, used values, and unwanted tech I'm setting up to keep what I've got long term.

Edit: I suppose you could spend the most money, do the best maintenance, and just be unlucky with a lemon or a Monday/Friday build and conclude that maintenance does not matter based on empirical evidence.

What is long-term? Definitely not trying to downplay what you are doing/want to do, but you do not need a bypass filtering system to roll several hundred thousand miles on a vehicle these days--solely considering oil, oil quality, and the like--barring buying high-quality supplies, but overusing them (e.g., extended oil changes). There are plenty of other things to take out a vehicle that have nothing to do with the engine's oil supply or quality.

I was more interested in it in the way of medical records or VIN checks. You see what happened along the way to a very specific vehicle. In the general anonymized aggregate sense, like Fuelly does for MPG, you would be able to sample longevity of a specific vehicle and oil combo.
UOAs give a "version" of the story, but it is not all-inclusive, and there are plenty of things that a UOA cannot do--namely, be used as a wear measurement tool. Now, if you are suggesting using them to see something "catastrophic" that is within the realm of reason, such as a blown head gasket or a cracked block showing a coolant leak, or a massive spike in wear metals, but it will not typically show you the quality of the maintenance--ergo the absence of something "obvious" does not mean the vehicle was well maintained--primarily if the UOAs are randomly performed or in insufficient quantities to perform trending.
 
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Everybody has preferences and opinions on how to treat their engines. I am installing an Insane Diesel bypass filter system on my Bronco. I don't do it to please anyone but myself. Doing that and filling with a good quality synthetic oil makes me feel I am doing the best thing I can for the engine.

I don't see how it can hurt anything and from my experience with using them it does prolong the life of an engine related to anything affected by oil lubrication. My 02 Ranger has had a bypass filter since near new with now over 311K miles on it that has towed my race car all over the country, spent many hours off-road in severe conditions and has seen many trips to redline. It has been and will continue to be a workhorse for me.
 

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Particle Size (Microns)Example Efficiency (%)Beta Ratio (β)Notes
40 µm100 %Virtually all particles ≥ 40 µm are caught
30 µm99.99 %10,000Near total capture
25 µm99.9 %1,000Rated efficiency point
20 µm99.0 %100Industry “absolute” rating
15 µm90 %10High efficiency but some passage
10 µm60 %2.5Moderate filtration
5 µm25 %1.3Some very fine particles pass
< 5 µm< 10 %≈ 1Essentially unfiltered (still possible for microglass media)
That table looks suspiciously like something AI generated. Unicode, hyphens, and asterisks are generally a strong indicator.​
Is your data/table design guidance for the Motorcraft Engine Oil Filter FL2062A for the 2.7L?​
 

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My 02 Ranger has had a bypass filter since near new with now over 311K miles on it...
Out of curiosity, have you done a UOA, compression test, or bore scope on that rig to glean any insights?

Whose bypass filter did you install/use and are you doing regular or extended oil changes?
 
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But... that does not mean it only filters 20 micron and larger particles...
This reminded me of the screens in the oil supply lines of the turbos. I have not pulled mine to see if there is anything in them. That was one additional benefit of the bypass filter to help prevent those mesh screens from clogging up causing collateral damage to the turbos.

Do you know the largest particulate size, in micons, that can fit through those screens?


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Out of curiosity, have you done a UOA, compression test, or bore scope on that rig to glean any insights?

Whose bypass filter did you install/use and are you doing regular or extended oil changes?
I had oil analysis done on it in its younger years to determine when to change oil. That ended up being 20K miles. That is the point when the viscosity of the oil began to increase. I have not done compression tests because there is no indication it needs it. After building my own engines and racing them in SCCA for 32 years, I can tell the health of an engine by the sound of it.

If there was any problem in the cylinders that a bore scope could detect, it would show up in higher oil consumption. It has not used any more oil throughout its life so far. I have used borescopes in other engines to confirm problems.

I used Harvard bypass oil filters. They are getting harder to obtain and am switching to a new source. Extended oil changes was the main reason I started using bypass oil filters. Cleaner oil was the second reason. With the Bronco, cleaner oil is the main reason. I will go with Ford recommended oil change interval for the most part for the Bronco. I may do some oil analysis to see if I can extend it a little but it for sure will not be 20K miles. I want to be very cautious with turbos.
 

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That table looks suspiciously like something AI generated. Unicode, hyphens, and asterisks are generally a strong indicator.​
Is your data/table design guidance for the Motorcraft Engine Oil Filter FL2062A for the 2.7L?​
Not AI generated and it is for a filter that is capable of 20 microns @ 99.9% efficiency like a FRAM Endurance that has full synthetic media. A Motorcraft filter is cellulose based and not capable of 20 microns at 99.9% efficiency.
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