Bronco auto lock

[adam1991]

It would be stupid to unlock in a park situation.

I put my VW into park, and all the doors unlock.

It's a choice they gave me, and it's a choice I (strongly) prefer.

It's OK if it's a choice you wouldn't use. But please don't have Ford force YOUR way of doing things, and ONLY your way of doing things, onto the world simply because it's YOUR way of doing things.

For example, you arive early for something, find a parking spot and it's snowing outside or hotter than hell. You park, doors unlock, and you are sitting there with the car running with the heat/ac running. You got 10 minutes so you start reading your favorite forum, start looking at IG or just sit back and enjoy your music. All of a sudden your door opens and some crackhead with a knife is telling you to get out of the car.

So let me ask you this: why, when you parked and had ten minutes to spare sitting there, wouldn't you simply re-lock the doors?

It's the other side of the same knife. Either put it into park and I have to press the unlock button to let the kids into the car, or I put it into park and I have to press the lock button to keep the crackhead out.

Me, I would say that I want the behavior that serves me best--and that's the behavior that I use most frequently. Let the kids in the car? Every day. Sit in a random parking lot with ten minutes to spare? Hardly ever if at all.

I'd rather go through the hassle of unlocking the door in all the inconvenient situations than having someone just come up to my parked car with me or anyone inside and opening a door and doing whatever to me or my occupants.

I'd rather go through the hassle of locking the door in all the rare and inconvient situations.

Two sides of the same knife, but with one of them happening daily and the other one happening rarely if ever.

I mean, we can always come up with bizarre outlier "yeah, well, what if" situations. George Carlin talked about screwing with the priest that way in Sunday school; he made a very good living off that bit, for a reason:

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[orion]

I put my VW into park, and all the doors unlock.

It's a choice they gave me, and it's a choice I (strongly) prefer.

It's OK if it's a choice you wouldn't use. But please don't have Ford force YOUR way of doing things, and ONLY your way of doing things, onto the world simply because it's YOUR way of doing things.

It's not MY way, it's FORD's way and a sensible way at that!

I mean, we can always come up with bizarre outlier "yeah, well, what if" situations.

It's that bizarre outlier that will get ya! It's the out of sight out of mind like situation. I'm not going to remember to lock my door when I'm sitting in a parking lot waiting for something. I also have only driven Ford's all my life, except for two, and maybe that's why I wouldn't think to lock in that situation like you would. It's already done for me...

In the END, we all have opinions. But what we are talking about are choices, not opinions. Ford gives you these choices. I gave a good example of why I choose to have my car auto lock and the inconveniences of that, pushing the un-lock button. The other way, choosing not to auto lock, is a possible bizarre outlier situation happening, who knows what kind of outcome is involved with that, death, stolen and totaled car, but you didn't have to hit that un-lock button.

 

[adam1991]

It's not MY way, it's FORD's way and a sensible way at that!

I don't care if Ford does it; what I care is that Ford ALSO doesn't do the common sense way that will get WAY WAY more use from its customers.

It's that bizarre outlier that will get ya!

So understand how the car works and work the controls properly once in a blue moon for that outlier, instead of forcing everyone to do something stupid EVERY DAY simply because ONE GUY ONE TIME had his wife driving in a sketchy area and she sat in the car for ten minutes and a meth head came up and opened the door and raped her and beheaded her afterwards.

But don't engineer solely for the outlier at the expense of the day to day. That makes NO sense.

Ford gives you these choices

And Ford gives bad choices.

 

[RIDE]

There is no auto lock. Nothing will automatically lock after a period of time. You have to physically lock it with the fob or door lock switch.
The only auto lock the Bronco is capable of, is automatically locking the doors after you start driving.

@Ducati1098 Do you know is there a Forescan setting for it? Don’t typically park in areas I need to lock doors but there’s occasions I should but forget out of habit. Between the app, FOB and keypad, I don’t see it ever locking me out.

 

[Bronco4Joe]

So what I'm talking about is being able to open the doors from the outside.

When you come to a stop and put the vehicle in park with the engine running, the doors stay locked from the outside (even though I never locked them in the first place, the car did that). So when my kids walk up to the car and try to open the door, it's locked and I have to unlock it manually. Then, since I normally drive my truck, I have to remember where the hell the lock switches are. It gets me every time. I only drive the Bronco occasionally because it's my wife's DD, so even though both of our vehicles are Fords, and only 4 model years apart, everything is completely different from one to the other.

I would prefer a setting that if you put the thing in park, the doors will automatically unlock themselves, just as they locked themselves when I started moving...

unlock of all the doors is triggered by the drivers door opening, I think only in park. So you can crack the drivers door or hit the unlock.

 

[orion]

I don't care if Ford does it; what I care is that Ford ALSO doesn't do the common sense way that will get WAY WAY more use from its customers.




So understand how the car works and work the controls properly once in a blue moon for that outlier, instead of forcing everyone to do something stupid EVERY DAY simply because ONE GUY ONE TIME had his wife driving in a sketchy area and she sat in the car for ten minutes and a meth head came up and opened the door and raped her and beheaded her afterwards.

But don't engineer solely for the outlier at the expense of the day to day. That makes NO sense.


And Ford gives bad choices.

So that outlier, YOU are going to know when that happens??? You are going to predict the future and know when someone is going to car jack you???

I do understand how the car works and use it the way it was intended, to keep me and others in my car safe without having to think about it!!!

All you have to do is "understand how the car works" and turn off auto lock and lock the doors when you want it locked.

 

[adam1991]

So that outlier, YOU are going to know when that happens???

Notice I never said "don't design for the outlier," whereas what I'm hearing here is "don't bother with the day to day use, make them deal with it, instead design ONLY for the outlier".

If Ford can program one choice in, it's free for them to program other choices in. But they don't. And that's ridiculous.

All you have to do is "understand how the car works" and turn off auto lock and lock the doors when you want it locked.

Why are you insistent that Ford does NOT bother to offer an alternative that's useful to everyone, including you, on a daily basis but instead focuses SOLELY on this extreme case that, frankly, will never happen?

Do you continually focus on the most extreme horrible things that MIGHT happen to you every moment of the day?

 

[mikec426]

Let’s keep this going!

 

[Ducati1098]

@Ducati1098 Do you know is there a Forescan setting for it? Don’t typically park in areas I need to lock doors but there’s occasions I should but forget out of habit. Between the app, FOB and keypad, I don’t see it ever locking me out.

Not that I’ve ever seen. I can’t say I’ve ever looked for this specific setting in forscan though.

 

[indio22]

The whole point of the auto lock is to prevent car jacking. If you come to a stop, whether in park or drive, stop light or parking lot, your doors are locked without having to think about it. It would be stupid to unlock in a park situation. It takes away the whole point of locking your car automatically. For example, you arive early for something, find a parking spot and it's snowing outside or hotter than hell. You park, doors unlock, and you are sitting there with the car running with the heat/ac running. You got 10 minutes so you start reading your favorite forum, start looking at IG or just sit back and enjoy your music. All of a sudden your door opens and some crackhead with a knife is telling you to get out of the car. What do you do??? The auto lock is there to keep your doors locked until YOU unlock them. Keeping you somewhat safe, keeping that barrier between you and that crackhead with the knife. I'd rather go through the hassle of unlocking the door in all the inconvenient situations than having someone just come up to my parked car with me or anyone inside and opening a door and doing whatever to me or my occupants.

Either turn off the auto lock feature or deal with the inconveniences of unlocking when someone needs in. It makes no sense to unlock in park. It defeats the whole purpose of it...

Agreed in that the reason I lock my doors is generally to keep other humans out of the vehicle - which is mainly only going to occur when the vehicle is not in motion. Locking the doors only when travelling over 7mph or whatever seems kind of pointless, as no humans will be able to enter my vehicle at that or higher speeds. When in a situation where other humans can actually try and enter my vehicle, I'd rather not have my doors auto unlock until I actively decide to unlock them.

I can think of some more limited use cases for unlocking at stoppage or when in park, it would be good to have the user option, but I would not activate that setting.

 

[adam1991]

the reason I lock my doors is generally to keep other humans out of the vehicle - which is mainly only going to occur when the vehicle is not in motion.

...at a stop light, with your foot on the brake. Yes, people will come at you in traffic. Absolutely.

Locking the doors only when travelling over 7mph or whatever seems kind of pointless, as no humans will be able to enter my vehicle at that or higher speeds.

...until you stop at a light or a stop sign.

Options are good, and not to program an option like "unlock when put into park" is a stupid oversight at best, malicious decision making at worst.

 

[Moto26]

The whole point of the auto lock is to prevent car jacking. If you come to a stop, whether in park or drive, stop light or parking lot, your doors are locked without having to think about it. It would be stupid to unlock in a park situation. It takes away the whole point of locking your car automatically. For example, you arive early for something, find a parking spot and it's snowing outside or hotter than hell. You park, doors unlock, and you are sitting there with the car running with the heat/ac running. You got 10 minutes so you start reading your favorite forum, start looking at IG or just sit back and enjoy your music. All of a sudden your door opens and some crackhead with a knife is telling you to get out of the car. What do you do??? The auto lock is there to keep your doors locked until YOU unlock them. Keeping you somewhat safe, keeping that barrier between you and that crackhead with the knife. I'd rather go through the hassle of unlocking the door in all the inconvenient situations than having someone just come up to my parked car with me or anyone inside and opening a door and doing whatever to me or my occupants.

Either turn off the auto lock feature or deal with the inconveniences of unlocking when someone needs in. It makes no sense to unlock in park. It defeats the whole purpose of it...

Wow.

 

[GroovyGeek]

So what I'm talking about is being able to open the doors from the outside.

When you come to a stop and put the vehicle in park with the engine running, the doors stay locked from the outside (even though I never locked them in the first place, the car did that). So when my kids walk up to the car and try to open the door, it's locked and I have to unlock it manually. Then, since I normally drive my truck, I have to remember where the hell the lock switches are. It gets me every time. I only drive the Bronco occasionally because it's my wife's DD, so even though both of our vehicles are Fords, and only 4 model years apart, everything is completely different from one to the other.

I would prefer a setting that if you put the thing in park, the doors will automatically unlock themselves, just as they locked themselves when I started moving...

Your wife probably appreciates the fact that the doors can't be open from the outside. And someday, when your kids start driving, you will appreciate it too

 

[Moto26]

Your wife probably appreciates the fact that the doors can't be open from the outside. And someday, when your kids start driving, you will appreciate it too

Yeah. I mentioned that.

Unfortunately, my wife (like Jawaburger above) likes having the doors lock themselves while she's driving. She does agree, however, that you should be able to tell the truck to unlock the doors when you put it in park. If you want to.

 

[RIDE]

Not that I’ve ever seen. I can’t say I’ve ever looked for this specific setting in forscan though.

Gotcha. Couple years back had a college kid work for me with a newer F150 and he’d always just leave his fob in the console and as I recall his doors auto locked on exit and he’d always just use his keypad for entry. I’d myself never trust that for any/all the numerous obvious reasons, but gotta admit the freedom aspect was appealing. I occasionally still forget where I put my FOB.

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