This is the first I’m hearing about that one. Got any screenshots?
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It's not worth it. This whole thread now is hot takes, or the call it what it is, male gossip.
Occam's razor would say APG partnered with ADV to produce a "top of the line" top, neither knew what they were getting into, APG and/or ADV didn't design the first top for delivery, scrapped it, starting designing another one offshore (which is an order of magnitude more complex), all the while ADV was funding the invoices they were getting with presales that couldn't be fulfilled, oversold everything from where to what was being produced and when to keep sales juiced, APG kept pushing out production dates to "get it right" (from 10k miles away), and eventually ADV got bit by the presales and refunds and decided to bring down APG for their tardiness vis a vis the deliveries.
How close or far away from accurate that is doesn't really matter to many on this thread, which is a pile-on, because everyone loves a car wreck. Speaking reason to a mob.
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This is the first time I have heard of LB but they are not coming off as someone I want to do business with. I stubbled upon panda before finding this forum and bought a few things because of their great install videos and honestly that positive attitude comes across in their post (at least to me).
I am continuing to watch this thread because I wanted the ADV too and even shared the link on Reddit as something I was waiting for since the ford OEM top was just as expensive and not as feature rich.luckily I just saved the bookmark rather than spending the money. Looking at other tops folks have suggested here, I still see some that are “shipping soon” so still have my doubts. I hope folks can get all or most of their money back and tbh I don’t see myself supporting APG, ADV, or any affiliated companies. That’s only me and I know my one decision won’t impact them, but that’s the choice I get to make.
I am continuing to watch this thread because I wanted the ADV too and even shared the link on Reddit as something I was waiting for since the ford OEM top was just as expensive and not as feature rich.luckily I just saved the bookmark rather than spending the money. Looking at other tops folks have suggested here, I still see some that are “shipping soon” so still have my doubts. I hope folks can get all or most of their money back and tbh I don’t see myself supporting APG, ADV, or any affiliated companies. That’s only me and I know my one decision won’t impact them, but that’s the choice I get to make.
Of course they have a relationship with APG there's multiple videos of Liite Brite promoting their Bronco build. That didn't happen without a contract. It's why we won't see Lite Brite say anything bad about APG. Lite Brite has been the spokespeople for lots of companies like Nitto, and Bilstein, that doesn't mean they are responsible for the cooperate decisions of those companies.
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Not near as active as the forum or this thread but I did see a Reddit thread and one person stated that they went there to talk to ADV in person last week. Not really an update though unfortuntely.
Last night's "live" All Terrain Nation youtube. The dude said he had an uncomfortable conversation with Kev-bo.
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Correct. But LiteBrite has a choice on how it conducts itself in this fiasco. And I'm not impressed.
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what in my statement says the brains was him and not her?
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$8M to make tools out of everyone who sent money. I think that statement is true!Millions of dollars in tooling……
Either that makes sense, or you’re new here.
Agreed.
But that doesn't make them responsible for the hard tops or the money.
As of yesterday they are still promoting APG, sending customers their way for various products, including hardtops. Do you see that as a problem?
Zero people have said that. Zero.
Of course, but again I'm betting they have a deal in place, that's how contracts work, or you are in violation of the contract.
I just Googled celebrity endorsements, turns out Rhianna is the spokesperson for Louis Vuitton. Now image if a news release came out that Luise Vuitton was breaking child labor laws to make their cloths. Do you think Rhianna can stop the advertising from happening?
No, she signed a contract, if she broke the contract there would absolutely be legal repercussions.
I think LiteBrite should run as fast as they can from this, as soon as they can, but contractually I bet they can't.
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