ADV Production Modular Hardtop!

[ramblinwreck]

This smells like a Ponzi scheme to me. As long as new orders are greater than cancellations you wil get your money back. As soon as that changes they will stop answering the phone and leave everyone empty handed. I’d cancel now while I still could.

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[mcinfantry]

Some folks REFUSE to admit they may have made a mistake, no matter what it may cost them. They have to stand behind their bad decision, which means defending their scammer.

I've been trying to shout this from the mountain top from the beginning. Them and AR, thoug AR eventually delivers, but if they say 6 weeks, it will most likely be 6+ months.

This is why legit businesses get investors to help cover the cost of development, there is a risk involved. In this situation, there was never an upside to the risk. Some "Investors" may recover zero of their investment if/when shit goes bad.
It went bad about 12 months ago.

I guess this is the "Bronco thing". Top scams.
The classic Bronco community had a soft top scammer YEARS ago.


The internet is a wonderful tool for research, just sayin'....

Google user name SaddleUp over at ClassicBroncos.com. Just seeing that name here from time to time still makes my stomach turn.

Google ADV's old business name.

Enjoy the ride!

Send it!

oh wrong thread!

I’ll say this
At least with ar if you cancel they clip you a cancellation fee then sell full price to the next guy in the que

adv missed the boat

free $$

 

[Bluewheels]

Man. Talk about losing control of the message. Yeesh.

 

[Sunday Money]

For all you sceptics or haters out there, relax!

I just received this sponsored advertisement on IG, and they have over 78,000 followers!!! What???

I immediately clicked the "shop" button, and the rest is history.

If I order it tonight I should have it the first week of June!

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[351W-Bronco]

For all you haters out there, relax!

I just received this sponsored advertisement on IG, and they have over 78,000 followers!!! What???

I immediately clicked the "shop" button, and the rest is history.

If I order it tonight I should have it the first week of June!

What could possibly go wrong?

16 weeks?Not even 16 months

 

[BroncoBoy22]

That’s where no one can say ADV isn’t doing anything wrong. They are straight up lying with that timeline lol.

 

[GroovyGeek]

That’s where no one can say ADV isn’t doing anything wrong. They are straight up lying with that timeline lol.

No way to know for sure if they are being honest or deceptive. I don't know what to think anymore... Other than the fact that if I ever need a replacement hard top it is unlikely that it will be from ADV.

 

[GotWake]

16 weeks?Not even 16 months

I imagine they are getting plenty of orders to cover us that got our money back. If they can keep the orders coming in, it's not that big of a deal for them. They got our money to fund this project and now other people just take our spots. I'm a little salty about it. It probably would keep me from buying from them again.

It's a good lesson, that I needed to learn.......again. Don't get in and fund anyone's R&D project.

 

[redone17]

It's a good lesson, that I needed to learn.......again. Don't get in and fund anyone's R&D project.

There are platforms for that. Indiegogo and Kickstarter are very successful for that type of funding. But, any project that I have backed - I always get clear and concise updates on a regular basis. Even when there are delays - you’re given explanations and at least a flippin’ apology.

 

[Granite Gorge]

I took my refund and bought a snow blower and paid for my funeral and ordered a top from another company who has been making tops since 2022.

 

[BUCKIN6VA]

No way to know for sure if they are being honest or deceptive.

What more do you need, man?!

 

[GroovyGeek]

What more do you need, man?!

We don't know if the repeatedly missed deadlines are outright lies, or just incompetent supply chain management. When stuff happens my initial goto position is to attribute it to errors of omission rather than commission. If they are lying outright then they are violating a bunch of laws in addition to screwing their customers. I will admit that it sure looks suspicious at this point.

 

[Toccoa]

I will admit that it sure looks suspicious at this point.

Very suspicious.

 

[Razorback]

Agree. 50% use of the forum is for entertainment purposes.

Exactly. I've already got my TOR hardtop, but I still will settle down and read this thread hoping to see people excited that they are actually releasing them. It's great material after ...

 

[Kjbeggs]

We don't know if the repeatedly missed deadlines are outright lies, or just incompetent supply chain management. When stuff happens my initial goto position is to attribute it to errors of omission rather than commission. If they are lying outright then they are violating a bunch of laws in addition to screwing their customers. I will admit that it sure looks suspicious at this point.

I don't think ADV set out to deliberately scam or deceive anyone, BUT they were pretty shady with some of the things they said :
-"We're just waiting for ONE MORE component to arrive" (when in truth, it doesn't seem they had ANY of the components here in the US).
-"Made in the USA" (when they really aren't, which they've now re-worded).

Not to mention the things they just won't say:
-Where are these manufactured?
-Where's the headliner content?
-Where's the install video?
-What's the effing holdup?

They're now that kid who keeps being told "If I catch you lying again, you're going to get it!"
"Guess I'll just plead the fifth, then..."

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