2"-3" Coil Spacers

[Sitruc_btb]

A perch collar lift does not lengthen the strut assembly over the stock length.
A spacer lift does lengthen the strut assembly.
Using the spacers for any lift over 1" level is not the best way lift an independent front suspension.
Keeping as close as possible to the factory(engineered) halfshaft angles and tie rod angles is extremely important......you can't do that with a big spacer lift(top and or bottom of strut) on an independent front suspension. The factory shocks just aren't engineered for the larger, or actually any lift.
A 2" perch collar lift is about the max you should go without adding new upper control arms that will allow more alignment adjustment to keep your alignment in specs.
I know "people do it all the time"....but that's not a good reason.
If you're just doing it for looks....go for it, but realize that the aforementioned axle and tie rod angles are extremely important.

What is the benefit, if any, to using spacers instead of perch collars? From what I've read on here, perch collars change the static position of the shock, and may limit travel, though others have said the difference is negligible. Although the spacers lengthen the overall assembly, shock performance remains the same, right? As far as articulation goes. The spacers will give me some more tire/fender clearance, but do I gain any articulation by pushing the suspension down? Perhaps by moving the tires further away from the fenders, I have less chance of stuffing the tires in the fenders, possibly freeing up some articulation, instead of running out of space?

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[AMTRV]

I don't believe there is ever any "benefit" to using spacers over perch collars other than the fact that you don't have to disassemble the coil overs to use spacers.
I'm not a fan of either. New coil overs are the best way to lift period.
As I understand it, there's nothing wrong with a 1-1.5" lift with either spacers or perch collars if you're just going for aesthetics with regards to larger tires by means of a lift.
After lots of studying, I chose to stay with my stock non sas Badlands suspension and found true 35" tires that fit well on stock BD steelies. I have full articulation with absolutely no rub.
(I've got 2' perch collars, Zone 1" leveling kit and Rock Krawler 1" level kit for sale if anyone wants them)
Hope this helps!

 

[Sitruc_btb]

I don't believe there is ever any "benefit" to using spacers over perch collars other than the fact that you don't have to disassemble the coil overs to use spacers.
I'm not a fan of either. New coil overs are the best way to lift period.
As I understand it, there's nothing wrong with a 1-1.5" lift with either spacers or perch collars if you're just going for aesthetics with regards to larger tires by means of a lift.
After lots of studying, I chose to stay with my stock non sas Badlands suspension and found true 35" tires that fit well on stock BD steelies. I have full articulation with absolutely no rub.
(I've got 2' perch collars, Zone 1" leveling kit and Rock Krawler 1" level kit for sale if anyone wants them)
Hope this helps!

I appreciate any input. I have a non Squatch Badlands as well. Added some 315.70.r17 tires, and a winch with mount on the modular bumper. I do want a little extra clearance, belly clearance, as well as some fender clearance, but it's tough to justify replacing coilovers when it already has a good suspension setup. I did purchase the Broncbuster 1.5" suspension spacer lift for my rig. Figured 1.5" isn't going to hurt much, I hope!

 

[AMTRV]

I appreciate any input. I have a non Squatch Badlands as well. Added some 315.70.r17 tires, and a winch with mount on the modular bumper. I do want a little extra clearance, belly clearance, as well as some fender clearance, but it's tough to justify replacing coilovers when it already has a good suspension setup. I did purchase the Broncbuster 1.5" suspension spacer lift for my rig. Figured 1.5" isn't going to hurt much, I hope!

You'll be fine with the 1.5" spacer. Should work great with the weight of the winch.

 

[Teewsda]

You'll be fine with the 1.5" spacer. Should work great with the weight of the winch.

Basesquatch 2.7 . Aftermarket bumper and winch plate.
Eibach Pro lift springs.
$345 on sale
2"+ up front 1.5 in back.
A little more work to install but I consider it 10x better than a spacer lift. Rides great.

 

[Sitruc_btb]

Basesquatch 2.7 . Aftermarket bumper and winch plate.
Eibach Pro lift springs.
$345 on sale
2"+ up front 1.5 in back.
A little more work to install but I consider it 10x better than a spacer lift. Rides great.

Right about that. Spacers are cheap, budget boosts, but this one is pretty minimal, and does not level the rig like other kits. Exactly what I want. I'll try my hand at the spacer setup. An Icon kit would be ideal, but it's hard to justify dropping 5k plus on whole nee suspension, when the Badlands already gets a good setup from the factory. And the fact that I just bought a new car. Haha.

 

[da_jokker]

Yeah it's strange but after reading the reasons not to use spacers, and instead use perch collars.... I actually think that I'm going to NEED spacers.

When I get my Bronco, I have full belly skids, sliders, front bumper and a winch all to put on.... As an estimate, I believe all the extra weight is going to lower my Bronco about an inch.

Going off the information: collars vs spacers, If I use 1 inch spacers, It will actually put my geometry back to where it should be. If I use collars, the height will go back, but my geometry will still be leaning more towards a "compression" state.

If I'm thinking wrong, let me know. I'm even tossing around the idea of putting a 2-in spacer, which would theoretically put me 1 in higher than stock when I'm all done. I'm wondering if one inch higher than stock would have any ill effects.

 

[Snacktime]

Yeah it's strange but after reading the reasons not to use spacers, and instead use perch collars.... I actually think that I'm going to NEED spacers.

When I get my Bronco, I have full belly skids, sliders, front bumper and a winch all to put on.... As an estimate, I believe all the extra weight is going to lower my Bronco about an inch.

Going off the information: collars vs spacers, If I use 1 inch spacers, It will actually put my geometry back to where it should be. If I use collars, the height will go back, but my geometry will still be leaning more towards a "compression" state.

If I'm thinking wrong, let me know. I'm even tossing around the idea of putting a 2-in spacer, which would theoretically put me 1 in higher than stock when I'm all done. I'm wondering if one inch higher than stock would have any ill effects.

You want a combination of spacer and preload. Spacer gives you lift but pushes suspension more towards its max limits. The perch collar gives you lift at the expense of droop. A mild combination of both is the best solution if you want to stay with SAS Shocks. Look at the zone 2" and 3" lifts for SAS Broncos, I feel they do the best job of being middle of the road (very similar to what Icon does lift wise).

 

[mpeugeot]

You want a combination of spacer and preload. Spacer gives you lift but pushes suspension more towards its max limits. The perch collar gives you lift at the expense of droop. A mild combination of both is the best solution if you want to stay with SAS Shocks. Look at the zone 2" and 3" lifts for SAS Broncos, I feel they do the best job of being middle of the road (very similar to what Icon does lift wise).

A little of both would probably be best. However, if you are going to pick one, given he plans on loading down the vehicle some, I would go with the preload.

 

[Morrisattack]

If it's just for looks a spacer lift is fine. I've lifted 3 with 2 inch spacer lifts and 35s. No problems at all

 

[Sitruc_btb]

For what it's worth, I installed the Broncbuster 1.5" spacer lift (not preload)the other day. I aligned it back to factory specs. Rides just like it did before, just a bit taller. If anything, and it may just be in my head, but the rear end feels like it doesn't buck around as much when hitting a bump.

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