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The 3.0lL being detuned from Braptor/Rraptor was explained during its release. A Ford PT should take care of most of the shortfall!
I personally saw the link on ford.com stating that the Filson would have 418 hp (same as Raptor). Although, I doubted it would come to be. It also doesn't seem to be there any more. Odd.

There are multiple links/screenshots showing (showed) 418 in the main Filson thread.

We'll see. If I were a betting man I'd bet against 418.
 

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It’s definitely a tempting upgrade for me. I want to see what the ’27 BRaptor changes are though. I suspect it will get cooled seats and maybe a few of the Filson upgrades as well. I do wish they had put more adjustable seats in the Filson, an extending thigh support would have me in line at the dealer asap.
 

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It’s definitely a tempting upgrade for me. I want to see what the ’27 BRaptor changes are though. I suspect it will get cooled seats and maybe a few of the Filson upgrades as well. I do wish they had put more adjustable seats in the Filson, an extending thigh support would have me in line at the dealer asap.
I would think if plush seats are one’s #1 issue, perhaps a Bronco is the wrong vehicle? If one is willing to spend Braptor or Filson trim dollars and fancy seats are what get you into a dealership, aren’t there better lux options out there than an expensive Ford? Just asking, as this point comes up over and over and leaves me consistently confused!
 

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I would think if plush seats are one’s #1 issue, perhaps a Bronco is the wrong vehicle? If one is willing to spend Braptor or Filson trim dollars and fancy seats are what get you into a dealership, aren’t there better lux options out there than an expensive Ford? Just asking, as this point comes up over and over and leaves me consistently confused!
Plush seats is a pretty dismissive framing. I have long legs so if I don’t get enough thigh support my lower back starts aching really bad on long trips. My old Tacoma was so brutal I had to sell it. Sure maybe comfortable seats don’t matter if all you’re doing is short trail rides or going to the mall but for those of us that live out West multi-hour drives to the trails are just the reality.
 

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Plush seats is a pretty dismissive framing. I have long legs so if I don’t get enough thigh support my lower back starts aching really bad on long trips. My old Tacoma was so brutal I had to sell it. Sure maybe comfortable seats don’t matter if all you’re doing is short trail rides or going to the mall but for those of us that live out West multi-hour drives to the trails are just the reality.
Well, I’d say comfortable seats matter to everyone, but like most of the owners on this site, I’ve owned a bunch of different vehicles and I find the default Bronco seats fine. But they’re not cooled, they’re not infinitely adjustable, and there’s no memory settings (which seems to drive people batty). They’re not up to the standards of most 6-figure vehicles. But like the rest of the Bronco, they’re functional first and lux second. That just seems like what you’re getting when you buy a Bronco.

PS: I‘m an older guy, I live out West and I’m over 6’ tall. I’ll confess the trails are mostly at my doorstep and not multi-hour drives, but I did do a big 2000-mile loop this Spring.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/tips-n-arizona-nm-co-road-trip.130080/

Was driving 6-7 hours a day tiring? Yes. Were the seats a problem? No.
 

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Well, I’d say comfortable seats matter to everyone, but like most of the owners on this site, I’ve owned a bunch of different vehicles and I find the default Bronco seats fine. But they’re not cooled, they’re not infinitely adjustable, and there’s no memory settings (which seems to drive people batty). They’re not up to the standards of most 6-figure vehicles. But like the rest of the Bronco, they’re functional first and lux second. That just seems like what you’re getting when you buy a Bronco.

PS: I‘m an older guy, I live out West and I’m over 6’ tall. I’ll confess the trails are mostly at my doorstep and not multi-hour drives, but I did do a big 2000-mile loop this Spring.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/threads/tips-n-arizona-nm-co-road-trip.130080/

Was driving 6-7 hours a day tiring? Yes. Were the seats a problem? No.
I mean that’s cool that they work for you but more adjustability just means they work for a wider range of people. I don’t find the Bronco seats to be terrible by any means but the Raptors are definitely more comfortable and if they are doing to add a luxury variant I think adding more seat adjustments is a reasonable ask. Frankly I’m guessing people like me are the target audience for the Filson and people like you less so.

It’s not just height it’s the leg to arms proportion. A lot of the problems from the Taco came from lack of adjustment range on the steering wheel which either meant I was too far away and had to hunch forward a bit to grab the wheel or too close and my thighs were up in the air. The Bronco is much better but I don’t think have some extra thigh support is a crazy ask for an $80k luxury version of it.
 

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Frankly I’m guessing people like me are the target audience for the Filson and people like you less so.
Fair enough. Hey, I’m hoping the Filson trim satisfies all the lux feature needs of everyone! And that it gets some Jackson Holers out on the trails. I can remember when it wasn’t possible to spend $80K on a truck! $60K for a loaded Badlands felt nuts!
 
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In the end, it's still based off a $28k Base Bronco (21 pricing), not a G-Wagon.
G-Wagons start at twice the price of a Filson. There is a lot of market space between those two.
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