Make My V8 Bronco Raptor, Ford!!! Things Done Changed!

[Valhalla]

To do it right I think you'd be in the 105~110 range. Just my thoughts after some pricing I've done. Could you slap a 20k dollar motor in a 40k gen1 with used 5k tons yourself that you refurbed and suspended for 2k. Another 2k in steering and 2k in interior and roll bars. Another 3 k for wheels and tires. Sure.
But to do all the labor and have 75k in and still not be perfect as the 115k new one??
I ask what your time is worth. For me that is a five year project. Few hundred hours....

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[vrtical]

To do it right I think you'd be in the 105~110 range. Just my thoughts after some pricing I've done. Could you slap a 20k dollar motor in a 40k gen1 with used 5k tons yourself that you refurbed and suspended for 2k. Another 2k in steering and 2k in interior and roll bars. Another 3 k for wheels and tires. Sure.
But to do all the labor and have 75k in and still not be perfect as the 115k new one??
I ask what your time is worth. For me that is a five year project. Few hundred hours....

This is why I have a Gen6 not getting any younger lol

 

[MadMan4BamaNATL]

This is why I have a Gen6 not getting any younger lol

Yeah, and @Valhalla, I do love the Gen 1, but wouldn't daily drive it and I don't have either the time, space, or money to invest in and house it right now. Maybe once I retire and move up y'alls way in the Tenn or NC mountains, sure.

For now, I want perhaps an overpriced Gen 6 with a V8 and could see them doing it in a Bronco Raptor R and calling it a day at $110K. Would love a 2 Dr of course, but even if I don't get a V8 moor door myself, want to see others enjoy it.

I'm also not looking for more power, the 2.7 is already too much and enough to break some things on the trail, including the trail!

I can go down on power and torque a bit for more grunt and grumble, plus the added simplicity of a NA V8.

Personally think it would sell very well, and with the newly relaxed rules, if Ford drops the price of that Raptor R by $12K or so, they'd sell that thing a ton.

What I don't want is all of these over leveraged manufacturers who went too far down the tech rabbit holes to now have too much pride to change course. Dodge did it, but they've had no choice. Ford feels they can wait it out and we'll still buy based on the numbers. That arrogant exec who recently said "customers don't care about the engines" was a loaded statement. I want his ass gone yesterday and his entire team of flunkies can walk out with him and not let the door slam hard enough in any of their faces. That's that general public bullshit. I don't like it, don't accept it, won't overlook it.

Taking car guys and the get out there crowd for granted is what turns you into Jaguar and I don't feel the need to say any further about that....

 

[jon]

Just give us V8 base model please

 

[Sherminiator]

For all of you getting giddy over this, it won't really happen. If the administration changes in 2029, those rules will come back and not to mention that given the leadtime of doing stuff like this, it wouldn't make it out to market for at least another 24-36 months.

 

[crenca]

For all of you getting giddy over this, it won't really happen. If the administration changes in 2029, those rules will come back and not to mention that given the leadtime of doing stuff like this, it wouldn't make it out to market for at least another 24-36 months.

This is THE problem. We need the current administration to get congress to pass a revised/updated Clean Air Act to prevent future administrations backdooring EV mandates through unrealistic ICE efficiency requirements, allowing California to mandate the rest of the country through CARB, etc.

I don't think this is in the cards for now, but it could be in the future at some point

 

[CarmeloS]

This is THE problem. We need the current administration to get congress to pass a revised/updated Clean Air Act to prevent future administrations backdooring EV mandates through unrealistic ICE efficiency requirements, allowing California to mandate the rest of the country through CARB, etc.

I don't think this is in the cards for now, but it could be in the future at some point

Facts.

Gotta make this is all locked in. Also feel it'd be more after '37 rather than '29

 

[MadMan4BamaNATL]

Recently read that the Wrangler 392 ain't dead after all. Jeep is also so desperate, they're putting one in the Gladiator. Not sure how much it will help in that thing, but maybe and I can't wait to see.

In the meantime, Ford last week announced another EV thingy; just why?

Come on Ford, since there doesn't seem to be much of a Bronco refresh beyond further softening, how about something for those of us who prefer something a little harder.

V8 Braptor, 3.0 Badlands and Stroppe, yes in the 2 Door as well! Let's move up to 37s for Sqatch and maybe limit to Badlands and Black Diamond. Give a lighter interior MGV and leather. Keep the manual in the 2 Doors as well.

Don't think the above is unreasonable.

 

[stampede1]

Recently read that the Wrangler 392 ain't dead after all. Jeep is also so desperate, they're putting one in the Gladiator. Not sure how much it will help in that thing, but maybe and I can't wait to see.

In the meantime, Ford last week announced another EV thingy; just why?

Come on Ford, since there doesn't seem to be much of a Bronco refresh beyond further softening, how about something for those of us who prefer something a little harder.

V8 Braptor, 3.0 Badlands and Stroppe, yes in the 2 Door as well! Let's move up to 37s for Sqatch and maybe limit to Badlands and Black Diamond. Give a lighter interior MGV and leather. Keep the manual in the 2 Doors as well.

Don't think the above is unreasonable.

You need to be the president of Ford Motor Company like right now!

 

[Valhalla]

Recently read that the Wrangler 392 ain't dead after all. Jeep is also so desperate, they're putting one in the Gladiator. Not sure how much it will help in that thing, but maybe and I can't wait to see.

In the meantime, Ford last week announced another EV thingy; just why?

Come on Ford, since there doesn't seem to be much of a Bronco refresh beyond further softening, how about something for those of us who prefer something a little harder.

V8 Braptor, 3.0 Badlands and Stroppe, yes in the 2 Door as well! Let's move up to 37s for Sqatch and maybe limit to Badlands and Black Diamond. Give a lighter interior MGV and leather. Keep the manual in the 2 Doors as well.

Don't think the above is unreasonable.

I takes years for our plant to get where we could change something like this. Gladiators enginerreing was easy since there already was a 392 JL...just my $.02

 

[MadMan4BamaNATL]

I takes years for our plant to get where we could change something like this. Gladiators enginerreing was easy since there already was a 392 JL...just my $.02

Starting today means you'll be ready tomorrow.

my/our lust for a V8 in the Bronco won't die, not today nor 5 years from now. Ford's competitors are about to jump ahead.

The real test is to learn what Toyota will plan to do. They need to pivot from those 4 bangers with hybrids; they are not selling to anyone besides the "first on trend" guys who wanted to be first on YouTube or in the neighborhood, but are now putting up bitching posts and trading in.

Toyota needs to go back to the V6 and go ahead and make a real Land Cruiser. I know the Sequoia is basically the LC, but it doesn't say it and names matter, so they should fix that thing too while at it.

I also want to see the Everest stateside from Australia; it'll sell a ton.

 

[EasternSierra]

Starting today means you'll be ready tomorrow.

At this point we have no idea what internal deliberations are going on in the executive suites of auto companies. Nobody is going to announce anything until it's well enough along that they're sure they'll actually be building it not too far in the future.

This isn't the first time an auto company has been criticized for issuing a product seen by some as no longer appropriate. It wasn't like Ford was going to cancel that EV project just before it went to production after years of development. The same thing happened to GM in 2005 when they issued a pickup body Hummer H2 gas guzzler right as gas prices were spiking.

EVs are an evolving technology. In the very long term most people will gradually transition to them as they and their supporting infrastructure continue to improve, but like other relatively new* technologies there are growing pains and plateaus along the way. They're still going to be somewhat niche for some time to come.

*I know EVs of some sort go back 120 years or so, but I mean the modern incarnation that people love or hate.

 

[The Pope]

Certain governmental regulations have/are being removed..... just saying......
Hopefully FoMoCo will take that into account for 2026 and beyond.

 

[TeocaliMG]

Certain governmental regulations have/are being removed..... just saying......
Hopefully FoMoCo will take that into account for 2026 and beyond.

A man can dream, but I think most folks would be depressed to find out how far out a model is considered fully locked in. Any kind of significant change, like a powertrain addition couldn't be closer than 3 years out if they agreed to do it today. Unless they want to circumvent the whole process and risk major warranty issues or worse.

 

[EasternSierra]

A man can dream, but I think most folks would be depressed to find out how far out a model is considered fully locked in. Any kind of significant change, like a powertrain addition couldn't be closer than 3 years out if they agreed to do it today. Unless they want to circumvent the whole process and risk major warranty issues or worse.

I had to laugh a few decades ago during the controversy over the alleged stability issues with the Suzuki Samarai. A few months after the issue exploded in the news, Suzuki introduced the Sidekick as a replacement. One newspaper claimed this introduction was a response to the Samarai controversy but the company denied that. I wonder how many people (understandably) cynical about corporate honesty thought that Suzuki was lying on that issue.

Well, I knew they weren't. First, I'd seen a shot of the Sidekick a year earlier in its final testing phase in a magazine. Second, there is no way you can design and bring to production a whole new vehicle in three months!

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