Unrepairable recalls piling up.

[Blackcat]

My JL has been flawless 2.5 years in. Not one trip to the dealer, zero recalls to date. Knock on wood.

I really wanted a Bronco, but Ford made it real easy to pick Jeep again at the time. Unless the JL turns into a flaming bag of poo before the 5/60 is up, Ford might never get my money in this segment of the market.

Same for my wife's JL, it's held up fine for the past 4 years. It just rides like a POS compared to my Bronco....

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[CV428]

This will be the last Ford I ever buy. I will go back to Jeep next time.

Having had both, I would caution you against that. Jeepers are the furries of the automotive world.

But I understand where you are coming from. Modern automotive engineering has departed from "efficient and groundbreaking" and gone full "unnecessary, poorly-implemented crap prone to catastrophic and unrepairable failure resulting in overpriced design-to-be-disposable junk." I dealt with automotive OEM engineering for years and it is soul-suckingly terrible. Honestly, I'm shocked anything rolls off a production line and functions. They stick kids right out of college in front of Catia (often times, they have never held a wrench), have them create engineering abominations, plunger that sewage down the pipe to Tier 1-3 suppliers, and then hope it all fits together, fueled by aggressive emails from project management that takes 53 weeks of vacation a year, and lobotomized goombas that couldn't solve a toddler's "match the shape" toy. I have stories but can't share them due to NDAs and C&Ds (God forbid anyone knows how accurate Dilbert is was...).

The best course of action is this: Don't buy anything new anymore. Don't fall into the "everyone needs a $1300/mo car payment, it's just normal now" mentality. In their pursuit of bluetooth butt-massagers, mogwai-leather seats with glow in the dark stitching, and other unnecessary options for marketing appeal, they lost sight of who their customer base truly was- people needing a reliable vehicle they can repair themselves and keep in the family for years and years.

I'll buy an old F100, drop a modern drivetrain in it with a standalone ECU. Property taxes will be as much as a cup of coffee (which is $14 these days), insurance will be next to nothing for top-tier coverage, and it won't lose value.

Or, find an OBS Ford for $3000, clean it up, give it a fresh coat of paint, and run it for another decade or two. They still exist for a reason. I could buy 20 Ford Rangers and F150s off Marketplace for the same cost as a new mid-tier F150 (which gets totaled out if a shopping cart bumps into it in a light breeze), and have enough parts between them all to carry me through to retirement.

Thank you for attending my insomnia-fueled rant, I hope you got a few laughs
I do like my Bronco, but I am done with new vehicles.
*Shakes fist loudly at cloud*

 

[BroncoChallenger]

I had zero recalls the first year too. Now I have about 5 or 6 pending. Some over a year old

It was a brand-new vehicle design with a LOT of combinations available. The first year there weren't likely to be many, if any, recalls. As time has gone on and they accumulated miles, that's when the issues would show up. And it took more time with Broncos because, let's face it, aside from on here most of them aren't daily drivers, so the miles and issues didn't rack up very quickly. We've had our '24 BD SAS for almost a year and it only has 6600 miles on it...because I drove it for two months waiting on my new truck to arrive. My truck I took delivery of a month ago and it already has 5k on it. Oh, and I just got a recall on that a week ago.

This is different from most other vehicle lines, where the majority of them are PRIMARY vehicles and are driven daily and rack up miles, and thus issues, quickly.

 

[HotdogThud]

This is literally nothing new. Recalls are always announced in advanced before parts are available, the same as any other brand lol

If you can’t or don’t want to wait, sell it

Best part is, selling a car with an open recall lowers the value. This is somehow Mike Levine's fault.

 

[Imaginary Friend]

Except it still drives like a Jeep lol

Same for my wife's JL, it's held up fine for the past 4 years. It just rides like a POS compared to my Bronco....

Absolutely, but I'll take a buckboard ride and a little twitchiness over endless problems any day.

I hope Ford gets their ducks in a row for those affected.

 

[Ducati1098]

Best part is, selling a car with an open recall lowers the value. This is somehow Mike Levine's fault.

I'd be very surprised it that was accurate. I don't see reason a free fix to a problem that just hasn't been completed yet would make the vehicle worth less.
I guess maybe it's possible for some recalls depending on what it is though

 

[CV428]

It was a brand-new vehicle design with a LOT of combinations available.

Quote me on this... The next phase of shrinkflation will be the reduction of choice/options. OEMs have gotten away with the expenses for options by shoving that downward onto consumers, but they cannot afford it anymore. I've done sprawling PTL systems with more recipes than a 1980's Betty Crocker cookbook. They aren't cheap, there's a cost to quality and logistics, and they add more failure modes and issues to chase.

I am currently seeing a trend where OEMs and tier suppliers are struggling to fill employment requests (one former client had 250+ open job orders they couldn't fill and their facility was a ghost town), and they cannot afford automating, so the only logical choice left is to reduce product diversity.

 

[Fordified1]

I'd be very surprised it that was accurate. I don't see reason a free fix to a problem that just hasn't been completed yet would make the vehicle worth less.
I guess maybe it's possible for some recalls depending on what it is though

Maybe on the Carfax report somehow. We are not a people of common logic anymore lol

 

[Ninjak]

I have a 21 Badlands, and the only recall I need to have looked at is the engine. I have had zero issues, also Lincon/Ford has offered to come to my house and check my engine. I doubt that I have the issue, I been running up and down Florida now since I bought it, and yeah I left the stock station a loooooooong time ago.

Not going to worry and just enjoy. As for Jeeps, my bud had a Jeep. Key word HAD. He had so many other issues with it, and his was a mall crawler. The biggest issue? Ride quality. He got to the point where he could not drive it with his growing family anymore, because the ride was harsh, had the death wobble, and just other issues. He drives a Caddy CT4 now. Says when he gets back into the off-road game, It will be a Bronco.

 

[Beggsie]

Got another recall in the mail today. Boy they sure are piling up. I have about five of them now that cannot be repaired. Trying to get into my phone app to see exactly how many I have piled up but now it has me blocked out, but I was in it yesterday just fine and now it just has a Ford logo when I sign in and I can’t get past it. Tell me how you can have a couple of recalls for over a year and they still don’t have a fix for it. Engine failure, shock failure back up camera failure among other things, but I can’t get in there to see them all right now. That’s pretty convenient that it’s blocking me out of the app.
i’ve decided that Ford has the shittiest customer service of any car manufacturer around. They don’t give a shit about those of us that have already bought Broncos. They don’t have the parts to fix them, but they’re still making new Broncos to sell. It’s really too bad that someone from Ford does not monitor this form and try to help those of us who bought their products. They just leave us out in the cold and wait for us to break down and then what?
and then when you do take them in to be fixed, they take a week to fix a 30 minute repair and don’t have a loaner car for you so you’re paying for insurance car payments and everything else while they have your vehicle stuck in their shop. This will be the last Ford I ever buy. I will go back to Jeep next time.

Just came from Jeep. Trust me, they have all kinds of issues. I will say though, they fixed every recall and problems under warranty. All in all, Bronco drives so much better and has way more torque.

 

[Sandy56]

Go get them done? How? I've tried for over a year on some.

Reading comprehension skills, nonexistent

 

[Valhalla]

For every guy who says this, there's another guy who is never buying a Jeep again. Dude, even Toyota's engines are failing. This isn't just a Ford issue.

To the OP, as stated here over and over... We get it, get over it or get to selling it. With all the can busses and computers talking to each other screen interfaces doohickies and gadgets available on this it was bound to have recalls. I think it was 4 years ago I received a recall on my 1996 bronco for them catching on fire and burning to the ground. (It was a brake sensor wire at the master cylinder.) 5-minute fix. When there is a recall, they are going to make you whole. And to say it again, YOU CAN GO GET YOUR ENGINE TESTED NOW. That recall is available.

 

[GoHawks63]

My 2016 Roush Mustang has an outstanding rear view camera recall for over two years.

When I first got it, I called the dealership where I purchased it about it. They told me that the recall was to "assess" if the camera was working. If the camera was working (which it was and still is), there was nothing more to do, but I had to drop off the car for the day.

I had no desire to drop off the car for the day, arrange for transportation (they didn't have loaners) and risk having a 17-year-old porter decide to take a 730hp car for a joy ride only to have a tech drive start the car, put it in reverse and say, "yep, camera works" and close the recall.

A good friend of mine is a service manager at a different dealership told me to swing by there one day so that can do the verification while I wait.

 

[JT58Bronc]

I just got the fuel pump one yesterday- 2022 Bronco Sas 2.7. I have had others- windshield, rear camera, wipers rear shocks, etc. I have not bothered with the camera or the wipers. The shocks- well that does not bother me either, I live in a salt free state, so I do not expect them to rot out anytime soon.

But the fuel pump one scares me. Especially it states NO REMEDY. What does this mean- fuel pump could suddenly lose pressure and vehicle dies at any speed, anywhere? No remedy means no parts or no fix? is it a re-design and wait for parts? What if this happens- park the Bronco for weeks, months and wait?

For the first time the recalls have me worried. And I am out of warranty. My wife wants me to get rid of it now and get a crew cab pick up- which we really do need- but it seems almost every vehicle today has issues..........and I still love this damn Bronco

 

[Roger123]

Mine is a 2021 First Edition. I have recalls that are over a year old that they still say they don't have parts for. Shocks for instance. Rearview camera is another. The main one is the engine recall.

And you're still driving it right? How do any of those things really affect you? What are your "damages"?

In full disclosure, the valve issue would bug me but if it hasn't blown up yet, it probably won't.

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