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Well honestly they did get a top with most of the features, so they sort of made out. Aftermarket headliners can be purchased if they were missing it like the top from TC Customs
I wonder if those tops warped eventually, and they just didn't say anything?
 

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I wonder if those tops warped eventually, and they just didn't say anything?
Who knows. It would take one of them to come forward, which I seriously doubt any would now.
 

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And let's not forget that we need aftermarket hard tops because Ford's is shit.
 

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I mean their going to get sued, y'all are entitled to refunds. What a mess
Sadly wrong. No refunds in the small print.
I pointed it out a long time ago. But ADV did respond they will refund, whatever that is worth. Take a screenshot asap.
 

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People need to remember that ADV is making the claims in the lawsuit document. ADV is also the ones who took the money and been making promises.

At this point its pretty much a 1 sided story, waiting for the truth not the fake damage control.
 

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This one is going for the 1000 page mark.
I'm curious how many pages will be added by the time I leave the office and get home.

To everyone that didn't bail, I hope you can get your money back.
 

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Sadly wrong. No refunds in the small print.
I pointed it out a long time ago. But ADV did respond they will refund, whatever that is worth. Take a screenshot asap.

Yes, but at the same time, not producing the item and still taking deposits and telling everyone that they would ship, I think might open them up to a fraud case and class action.
 

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Sadly wrong. No refunds in the small print.
I pointed it out a long time ago. But ADV did respond they will refund, whatever that is worth. Take a screenshot asap.
No refunds if you got it and hated it.

Taking money, not delivering and not refunding that money is something the FTC would find particularly interesting.
 

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Best wishes for those who got stiffed :cry::mad:.
My understanding is that it was a 100% deposit required which is a can't run fast enough away condition anytime it's presented on pending product.
 

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People need to remember that ADV is making the claims in the lawsuit document. ADV is also the ones who took the money and been making promises.

At this point its pretty much a 1 sided story, waiting for the truth not the fake damage control.
Agreed, waiting to hear from APG

Man I feel for everyone who lost money.

The full amount up front requirement pushed me to Anderson and boy am I happy about that now
 

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This is why I said on day one, do not give companies like these a dime of your money before they have an actual product. I am not comfortable pre-paying for anything that is not actually in production.

When I heard ADV was charging people immediately, even though it was going to be a lengthy wait, I warned people to check their bank's charge back rules, and make sure you file a charge back before it runs out. Hopefully a lot of you did that. You absolutely cannot rely or trust on ADV to issue you a refund, especially not now. They needed your cash to finance this "operation."

I'm shocked more people didn't cancel, ask for refunds, or do charge backs, when it was pretty damn clear ADV hadn't produced any tops, besides a few influencer simps, and they don't count.

I'm sorry if some of you lost out on money, but people need to be much, much more cautious with their finances.

EDIT:

The lawsuit will read like APG is the worst company and worst people in the world, that is the whole point. It is only one side of the story. Let's wait and see how this plays out.

My guess APG quickly realized that having ADV involved was a total waste, and that they could do this 100% on their own. They probably were not in as big of a rush to go to market as ADV, since APG is a well-established company with a lot of other products, including complete vehicle builds. There is nothing worse than sales trying to push or dictate the product group's tempo. I am an automotive engineer and technical seller, I know this world and used to work in the aftermarket space.
 
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Agreed, waiting to hear from APG

Man I feel for everyone who lost money.

The full amount up front requirement pushed me to Anderson and boy am I happy about that now
APG can't make any statements! Simple fact that a statement would connect them to this financial disaster. Smartest thing is just to legal up and drag it out, by the time this is sorted ADV could be bankrupt.

$5K x 100 deposits is a half million. Lots of money if you already spent it.
 

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APG can't make any statements! Simple fact that a statement would connect them to this financial disaster. Smartest thing is just to legal up and drag it out, by the time this is sorted ADV could be bankrupt.

$5K x 100 deposits is a half million. Lots of money if you already spent it.
Ah gotcha! Makes sense
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