OEM suspension swap??? Worth it???

[Syphon]

While I'm sure the answer is somewhere in the vast threads of bronco6g, Im going to ask while I continue my search. I have a 4 door 21 black diamond no SAS with standard suspension. I recently came across a person selling his non SAS badlands suspension off of his 22 2door, alone with leveling perch collar. Will that be an upgrade and will it even work on my 4 door? I'm not sure and neither is the seller. Would anyone know such answers???

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[Lak34ers]

While I'm sure the answer is somewhere in the vast threads of bronco6g, Im going to ask while I continue my search. I have a 4 door 21 black diamond no SAS with standard suspension. I recently came across a person selling his non SAS badlands suspension off of his 22 2door, alone with leveling perch collar. Will that be an upgrade and will it even work on my 4 door? I'm not sure and neither is the seller. Would anyone know such answers???

No. Buy the yellow hoss 2.0s used or better yet Bilstein 6112s that are adjustable and ride much better than OEMs.

 

[Bronc6g22]

Correcting note above. Badlands non-sas are a nearly identical variant of the yellow HOSS 2.0 and are vast improvement when compared to trims non-SAS or non-Badlands. With that being said:
1. Do not put 2-door suspension on 4-door Bronco, or 2.3L on 2.7L, etc. Unique spring rates are used on each combo.
2. If you can find a used set for sale matching your doors and engine, go for it. Otherwise reccomend aftermarket.

 

[RustysBronco]

Correcting note above. Badlands non-sas are a nearly identical variant of the yellow HOSS 2.0 and are vast improvement when compared to trims non-SAS or non-Badlands. With that being said:
1. Do not put 2-door suspension on 4-door Bronco, or 2.3L on 2.7L, etc. Unique spring rates are used on each combo.
2. If you can find a used set for sale matching your doors and engine, go for it. Otherwise reccomend aftermarket.

What he said. And keep in mind that you'll still have a smaller steering rack and the less robust differential.

 

[Syphon]

Yup. Look like I should wait a bit longer and get an aftermarket lift. Thanks for the replys!

 

[GI_Jo_Nathan]

For me it depends on the cost.
I installed non-SAS Badlands Suspension on my Black Diamond. Everything matched up as far as engine and number of doors, even had similar low miles, and only paid $300.

Definitely a win for me. Rides great and enjoy the little bit of extra hight.

I wouldn't pay more than about $500 before just doing aftermarket.

 

[RustysBronco]

What he said. And keep in mind that you'll still have a smaller steering rack and the less robust differential.

Expanding on this a little further, your steering wheel will feel a little like jelly and you'll feel every bump and vibration from adding larger tires.

 

[mpeugeot]

Correcting note above. Badlands non-sas are a nearly identical variant of the yellow HOSS 2.0 and are vast improvement when compared to trims non-SAS or non-Badlands. With that being said:
1. Do not put 2-door suspension on 4-door Bronco, or 2.3L on 2.7L, etc. Unique spring rates are used on each combo.
2. If you can find a used set for sale matching your doors and engine, go for it. Otherwise reccomend aftermarket.

Well, it really depends on many more factors regarding 2d vs 4d suspension. Optimal is matching doors, engine displacement, trim and tow package. It does not mean that it won't work and depending on how much weight you are putting on the front and rear of the vehicle it could be the right answer.

The non-sasquatch Badlands suspension is definitely an upgrade and one of the first modifications I did on my OBX.

 

[GroovyGeek]

No. Buy the yellow hoss 2.0s used or better yet Bilstein 6112s that are adjustable and ride much better than OEMs.

The install labor on a set of shocks is $700-ish. It is weird to spend $700 on labor for a $400 part. If you can swing it go for the Bilstein 6112s. They will cost you $1500-ish though. I also have a BD non SAS and was lucky enough to get the 6112s for free after loaning my Bronco to Bilstein for a week to test fit the as of yet unreleased 8112s. The 6112s are a major upgrade to the Hitachis especially off road.

 

[Lak34ers]

The install labor on a set of shocks is $700-ish. It is weird to spend $700 on labor for a $400 part. If you can swing it go for the Bilstein 6112s. They will cost you $1500-ish though. I also have a BD non SAS and was lucky enough to get the 6112s for free after loaning my Bronco to Bilstein for a week to test fit the as of yet unreleased 8112s. The 6112s are a major upgrade to the Hitachis especially off road.

Are you saying they are coming out with 8112s soon? $1360 is the best price I could find on 6112s at jeepandtruckparts.com

 

[Aonarch]

Don't waste your time on the Sasquatch shocks, they are based on the entry level 4600s and are built to a price point, aka cheap.

5100s are budget IMO, great for someone who just wants to stick close to OEM, or a small bump in performance.
6100/6112 are perfect for most people
8112s (Unavailable for now) are great for enthusiasts.

 

[Felix808]

@Syphon,
if you can get them cheap enough it would be worth it. The perch collar pre-load helps them a lot at least in my case with SVC collars. Like @Bronc6g22 said, make sure you match you doors & even engine from what they came off of.

The install labor on a set of shocks is $700-ish. It is weird to spend $700 on labor for a $400 part. If you can swing it go for the Bilstein 6112s. They will cost you $1500-ish though. I also have a BD non SAS and was lucky enough to get the 6112s for free after loaning my Bronco to Bilstein for a week to test fit the as of yet unreleased 8112s. The 6112s are a major upgrade to the Hitachis especially off road.

So you are saying they are working on 8112's Nice. I might eventually end up here but for now I or I should say @popo_patty picked up a clean set of 4-door Wildtrack shocks & springs for me for spares as I'm really happy with the way it works.

YMMV

 

[Felix808]

Don't waste your time on the Sasquatch shocks, they are based on the entry level 4600s and are built to a price point, aka cheap.

How do you figure this? It may be the same tube diameter but the internals are completely different. You know the part that actually makes the shock function .

 

[Aonarch]

How do you figure this? It may be the same tube diameter but the internals are completely different. You know the part that actually makes the shock function .

Tons of threads here of the reservoirs falling off, shocks leaking prematurely, etc.

 

[Felix808]

Tons of threads here of the reservoirs falling off, shocks leaking prematurely, etc.

Yes that has happened, but still trying to see your point that it's based off the 4600's that have no external reservoir nor ESVC tech in it.

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