Sponsored

Manual transmission scraping noise / grinding sound

SPITmadFIRE

Badlands
Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Threads
15
Messages
1,169
Reaction score
2,377
Location
CA
Vehicle(s)
—
Your Bronco Model
Badlands
Clubs
 
Yeah I'm more concerned about the window of the actual repair. After my rock fiasco last year I have no confidence in the dealer to make a repair quickly. What if they find something else once it's cracked open and I have to wait months because it's on back order.

So do I risk driving all over the country like it is and have them crack it open next fall, or do I roll the dice that they'll get it done quickly before summer?
If it were me, and this was your only issue to note at the moment, I’d say go for it. Long stints of mileage at operating temp would seem to be a way to ensure the lowest wear on the grinding components. I’ve put many thousands of miles on mine since it started making this noise last winter and I haven’t noticed much increase in frequency or volume, other than when I take it to the mountains and the weather gets extremely cold overnight.
Sponsored

 

Genjuro

Badlands
Active Member
Joined
Oct 13, 2022
Threads
2
Messages
41
Reaction score
30
Location
Central Virginia
Vehicle(s)
22 4dr Bronco BL
Your Bronco Model
Badlands
3:30 eastern time. Started the bronco today while it had been off for over 24 hours. Temp, 39 degrees at start.

The sound is back, it's mild, but it's there for sure. Went away after idle of 5 min. Mileage at pickup after transmission replacement: 2663
2, mileage at this moment, 2783.6.

Same ability to move towards 6th gear and make the sound go away.
 

Butzy

Base
Well-Known Member
First Name
Butzy
Joined
Jan 23, 2021
Threads
26
Messages
1,281
Reaction score
2,329
Location
Brookfield, Ohio
Vehicle(s)
f150 & bronco
Your Bronco Model
Base
Clubs
 
I think having the issue on paper is questionable if it isn't affecting the functionality of the transmission. Everything I have heard in videos thus far has sounded like a typical manual transmission to me and putting it on paper then driving it before it can be addressed could give you warranty headaches. Just a thought and how I will proceed once this thing gets through PDI.
 

SPITmadFIRE

Badlands
Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Threads
15
Messages
1,169
Reaction score
2,377
Location
CA
Vehicle(s)
—
Your Bronco Model
Badlands
Clubs
 
I think having the issue on paper is questionable if it isn't affecting the functionality of the transmission. Everything I have heard in videos thus far has sounded like a typical manual transmission to me and putting it on paper then driving it before it can be addressed could give you warranty headaches. Just a thought and how I will proceed once this thing gets through PDI.
I’ve owned a handful of manuals now, at least one other with a Getrag box, and I’ve never heard grinding like this. I assure you, if you heard the volume of this noise in person on a cold morning, you’d immediately change your mind. It’s very clear those synchros are grinding away faster than a high school dance with no supervision.
 
Last edited:

Bmadda

Badlands
Well-Known Member
First Name
Brian
Joined
Jul 18, 2020
Threads
20
Messages
2,902
Reaction score
6,830
Location
Wisconsin USA
Vehicle(s)
1990 Bronco eddie bauer
Your Bronco Model
Badlands
Clubs
 
I think having the issue on paper is questionable if it isn't affecting the functionality of the transmission. Everything I have heard in videos thus far has sounded like a typical manual transmission to me and putting it on paper then driving it before it can be addressed could give you warranty headaches. Just a thought and how I will proceed once this thing gets through PDI.
Trust me on this: IF yours makes the noise we are talking about, you WILL recognize it as an abnormal noise immediately. Yes, all transmissions make some noise if you listen closely enough, the "noise" we are hearing is not that. I also work on cars for a living, and can't imagine any customer I have ever dealt with accepting that this particular noise is "normal". What is curious is that (at least on mine), when the noise is there, it is obnoxious...sounds like the trans is grinding itself to bits, and when its gone, its gone...trans is perfect! Very strange!
 

Sponsored

I3lackRose

Banned
Big Bend
Banned
Banned
First Name
Justin
Joined
Jan 28, 2021
Threads
4
Messages
627
Reaction score
566
Location
Ohio
Vehicle(s)
Bronco
Your Bronco Model
Big Bend
Clubs
 
I think having the issue on paper is questionable if it isn't affecting the functionality of the transmission. Everything I have heard in videos thus far has sounded like a typical manual transmission to me and putting it on paper then driving it before it can be addressed could give you warranty headaches. Just a thought and how I will proceed once this thing gets through PDI.
IDK what a typical manual transmission sounds like to you but i've driven several over the last 20 years and not a single one sounded like these broncos.
 
Last edited:

I3lackRose

Banned
Big Bend
Banned
Banned
First Name
Justin
Joined
Jan 28, 2021
Threads
4
Messages
627
Reaction score
566
Location
Ohio
Vehicle(s)
Bronco
Your Bronco Model
Big Bend
Clubs
 
Can someone without the issue please share a video? I would like to add it to the the central thread I created that links to all these. It would probably be helpful for comparison
 

djp

Banned
Badlands
Banned
Banned
First Name
djp
Joined
Jan 7, 2021
Threads
17
Messages
439
Reaction score
619
Location
Idaho
Vehicle(s)
'22 Badlands 4dr || '21 Bronco Sport BigBend
Your Bronco Model
Badlands
Clubs
 
Here is an EXCELLENT video of the sound heard very well, this is on my rig.

Turn your volume UP when you watch.

@Butzy for your pleasure, listen below to mine :)
@Bmadda video to back up your notation of "abnormal noise" , yes it is...very!

A note on mine, noise never goes away. Not when warm, not when driving for an hour.
I drove mine 30min to dealer for a ride-along, the shop foreman heard the noise in first 5 seconds. They looked at it for 2 days and said "normal." They contacted ford and ford said "normal characteristic" .. Then 3 weeks later the TSB came out.

Currently my Bronco is at dealer for TSB. It was dropped off on Jan-4. They have all the parts, however 2 of the spacer rings showed extra wear, which are not included int he TSB specs, so they are waiting for the spacer rings to arrive, which should be Jan16/17. Then button it up, test drive and give it back to me.

==== UPDATE =====
My car has been at the dealer since Jan 4 and they've had all of the TSB parts, however when taking apart they saw excessive wear on the spacer rings and ordered. Ford showed "in stock" however that's not the case, they just called me today (Jan 16) saying spacer rings are backordered.... They have requested expedite from ford and mfgr.. however now I am in limbo... no expected day to have vehicle back..... This is really terrible as my vehicle has been with ford for a total of 5 weeks since ownership in August, and i only have 4k miles on it.... so Sad. But not as bad as my wife's Bronco Sport which as been in 3 times for at total of 8 weeks, 6 weeks of that was to replace failed water pump

 
Last edited:

RobBob22

Base
Well-Known Member
First Name
Rob
Joined
Feb 20, 2022
Threads
8
Messages
314
Reaction score
592
Location
Georgia
Vehicle(s)
2018 F250 SuperDuty
Your Bronco Model
Base
Clubs
 
Here is an EXCELLENT video of the sound heard very well, this is on my rig.

Turn your volume UP when you watch.

@Butzy for your pleasure, listen below to mine :)
That is a good clip, same status, mine does it all the time, I do feel like yours is louder just based on the clip. Mine does get a little "better" when it's warmer, but by no means gone.

Regardless, I took mine in today. Service advisor confirmed sound. Technician will take a look at it in the next day or so and then I will get my Bronco back. They will order the parts. Advisor said realistically it will probably be 3 months before I can get on the schedule, and I believe him. The place was absolutely packed when we got there this morning.
 
Last edited:

Sponsored

UTultimate

Badlands
Well-Known Member
First Name
UltimateBronco
Joined
Sep 13, 2020
Threads
15
Messages
222
Reaction score
418
Location
Charleston, SC
Vehicle(s)
Volvo
Your Bronco Model
Badlands
My dealer told me they would have to open the transmission and confirm the problem before they could even order the parts, seems backwards. Either leaving a transmission torn down to get all sorts of crap in it, or reassembling to then have to tear it down again once the parts arrive.
 

SPITmadFIRE

Badlands
Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Threads
15
Messages
1,169
Reaction score
2,377
Location
CA
Vehicle(s)
—
Your Bronco Model
Badlands
Clubs
 
My dealer told me they would have to open the transmission and confirm the problem before they could even order the parts, seems backwards. Either leaving a transmission torn down to get all sorts of crap in it, or reassembling to then have to tear it down again once the parts arrive.
there are many, many one time use bolts involved in just removing the transmission from the vehicle. There’s no way they need to do that before ordering parts for the TSB. Your truck will be disassembled for weeks while they wait for parts to come in if they do so.
 

Tricky Dick

Badlands
Well-Known Member
First Name
Dick
Joined
Apr 12, 2021
Threads
88
Messages
7,497
Reaction score
25,645
Location
PNW
Website
www.TD-Distributing.com
Vehicle(s)
21 Bronco, 88 Bronco II, 03 Ford F250
Your Bronco Model
Badlands
Clubs
 

SPITmadFIRE

Badlands
Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 8, 2021
Threads
15
Messages
1,169
Reaction score
2,377
Location
CA
Vehicle(s)
—
Your Bronco Model
Badlands
Clubs
 
It seems entirely unnecessary too. Did they really spec TTY bolts for some of this stuff?
I thought the same when I read through that section of the WSM — it seems like every driveline bolt that’s removed is replaced, but a lot of them are lower torque specs like 35 lb. ft.
 

UTultimate

Badlands
Well-Known Member
First Name
UltimateBronco
Joined
Sep 13, 2020
Threads
15
Messages
222
Reaction score
418
Location
Charleston, SC
Vehicle(s)
Volvo
Your Bronco Model
Badlands
there are many, many one time use bolts involved in just removing the transmission from the vehicle. There’s no way they need to do that before ordering parts for the TSB. Your truck will be disassembled for weeks while they wait for parts to come in if they do so.
I’m going to talk to the service manager.
Sponsored

 
 





Top