💰 Official: $2500 Order Modification Offer to Wildtrak Customers (switch trims) and Non-Wildtrak Customers (modify order to remove constraints)

[Dixie]

Ford never took bailout money...

Ford's credit arm participated in a federal program meant to free up short-term lending at a time when very few investors were spending. they absolutely took money 15.9 in a little tidbit called commercial paper. not mention and a piece of 13.9 to Fords financial arm in the way of helping creditors. so yea, they bailed them out in the past.

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[UtahLars]

The government bailed them out before and saved their arse.

Not sure what you're referring to, but if you mean the bailouts in the wake of 2008, this is not correct. Obama bailed out GM and Obama also bailed out Chrysler, but Ford did not accept any bailout support or money from the federal government. Ford was not bailed out.

 

[UtahLars]

Ford's credit arm participated in a federal program meant to free up short-term lending at a time when very few investors were spending. they absolutely took money 15.9 in a little tidbit called commercial paper. not mention and a piece of 13.9 to Fords financial arm in the way of helping creditors. so yea, they bailed them out in the past.

Then you should say that Ford participated in generally available Federal subsidies of the auto industry and companies in general, which is what those facilities were. Almost every sizable company in the US, sadly enough, has participated in such facilities, whether offered by the Fed, Treasury or another federal agency. Tesla has the shit subsidized out of it, year in and year out. So does every home builder in the country. Saying Ford was "bailed out" is a very different thing with a very specific meaning, and it is simply not true.

 

[mpmcgaughey]

I'm hoping that a BesTop TrekTop becomes an option to eliminate the MIC constraint.

Just hoping for some better news for 2 door peeps who’ve felt the struggle since Day 1 Sending y’all good vibes!

 

[Dixie]

Then you should say that Ford participated in generally available Federal subsidies of the auto industry and companies in general, which is what those facilities were. Almost every sizable company in the US, sadly enough, has participated in such facilities, whether offered by the Fed, Treasury or another federal agency. Tesla has the shit subsidized out of it, year in and year out. So does every home builder in the country. Saying Ford was "bailed out" is a very different thing with a very specific meaning, and it is simply not true.

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[mpeugeot]

So what about us that just bought a bronco and overpaid but still have an order in of what we actually want. Do we get $2500 if we cancel?

Please move on to option 3 or 4. That's the Ford way.

898 days here with me being on the cusp of having my granger 2dr basesquach built this year (around 100th in line at last check) where does that leave me. Take a chance on waiting and not be built or take the money for something else. I keep looking and there is NOTHING in that price range that I like. Ugh..

Remove sasquatch and "upgrade" to a Big Bend mid package 4 door softtop. Ford says that is as good as it gets and here's $2500 to make everything AOK.

You really didn't need the complication of locking axles, the advanced 4x4 transfer, inefficient 4.7 gears, and oversized 35" tires. Ford is just looking out for you. Remember, reservations are important to Ford, just not nearly as important as allocation.

Otherwise, please move on to option 3 or 4.

In both cases above, I would not expect Ford to make any of this right. The same applies to me, I am not going to get price protection or the MY23 transition offer. I also can pretty much guarantee that Ford will "sweep" my order away.

Speaking of which, has anyone seen @Ford Motor Company lately? I was hoping that they would come by and tell us to "stay pumped".

 

[mpeugeot]

Does anyone know if 2 door orders are screwed, can you switch to a 4 door and still keep price protection? thanks.
or even go from a base to a badlands? and still keep price protection?

I bet that it's likely that you will be able to, but I would get everything agreed in writing with regards to the price before doing so.

 

[mpeugeot]

Anyone know if this applies to canadian orders aswell, seams the rules are slightly different up here. Not a WT order, but I have SAS, MIC, and LUX and would like to keep them.

i am guessing that the only difference is that you will be offered $7,000 CAD to switch (that's about $2500 USD, right?).

 

[mpeugeot]

I’m still losing money with the $2,500 and not getting what I want, thanks but no thanks Ford! You raise the price of my Model Year conversion $4,400 to get exactly what I previously ordered just to tell me I can’t have what I originally ordered but to make me feel better you’re going to give me half of the extra money I just paid you back. I would rather you honor my original order and price, thank God I ordered a Rubicon last year when I lost faith in this order, best decision ever and Jeep delivered my Rubicon 8 weeks upon ordering plus they actually stayed in touch with me via email unlike Ford who has only emailed me credit card offers & service plans while I wait. Walking away, far far away and I’m sure many others will take this option as well.

Exactly, any of the Ford apologists, saying "it's because muh supply chain" should ask why Jeep isn't having a problem delivering vehicles in 2 to 3 months after ordering (including the 392 Wrangler).

 

[Vbsteve]

Am wondering if there’s enough for a class action lawsuit against Ford for claiming to be able to produce something it can’t, bait and switch, and fraudulently providing a form of price protection if you switch to what they can produce (and backing out if you insist on waiting for what you ordered)

 

[mpeugeot]

So I have a 2.7 2DR WT LUX HOSS on order. Wtf do I do to make the alternative to look and feel even remotely similar?
As far as I can see, it’ll cost way over $2.5k that they’re offering.

Well, that's actually fairly easy.

Option 1.
Order a non-sasquatch Badlands High Package with Leather and Tow.

Upgrade the stereo, order a set of 35" wheels and tires you like, order the heavy duty steering rack, and buy a set of shocks and springs you find acceptable. Install and drive.

Option 2.

Order a non-sasquatch Outer Banks High Package with the advanced 4x4 transfer case and rear locker.

Upgrade the stereo, order a set of 35" wheels and tires you like, order the heavy duty steering rack, and buy a set of shocks and springs you find acceptable. Install and drive. If you want the front locker, get the Ford Performance FDU and a set of 4.7 gears for the rear axle.

Option 3.

Order a Jeep Wrangler 392 Recon package

 

[Mcb345]

I’m still waiting to even get my order placed with a dealer from last summer. This officially confirms I will put my Badlands, lux, manual, SAS, hardtop dreams on hold for another time in the future. It’s insanely silly Ford still has supply chain problems this bad on a vehicle that could net them SO much if they got their act together.

 

[stonerdoom]

Just love how some with more of actual intel just say “wait till next week for more info”. I’d rather get all the bad news at once, definitely wouldn’t want a slow and painful death.

This is just par for the course. No info when FORD knows EXACTLY what is going on.

I am putting it out there and calling BS on FORD. When they purge our early, unfulfilled orders they will reopen the order banks, price will be raised, and you will be able to order AND GET your truck. It will be a mid-MY price increase and production will flow. Mark my words. IF you choose to do nothing and leave your order as is, FORD will simply not build it and you will lose. We know this because it's what they've done from the start.

Truck builds that you want will be available at the dealerships. No question. Your order will simply not be built. It is what has happened since launch and that behavior will continue. As pointed out here in this thread, this is about money and profit. This is calculated behavior from FORD. Commodity constraints are just a cover.

Also watch, when we get public, official word of this, the wording will be "due to unprecedented demand..." Except they act like we are not watching. Our nicely appointed early reservation builds have all been built already 100s of times over and sold as dealer stock for $10's of thousands over MSRP since launch. That model is working for them very well. They just need to get rid of the rest of us.

 

[stonerdoom]

I'm wondering if it'd be possible to combine the $2500 cert with the price protection private offer on an off-the-lot purchase from another dealer. So you update order to get the cert and then go find what you want off the lot. I'd have $4900 in discounts if that works and I could find a WT MIC/LUX at decent price.

Had the same idea. My nearly exact build is on a lot 50 miles from my house. Yet they couldn't build mine after 917 days. It's all BS. Do not believe FORD. This is war. They want us gone. We served our purpose to hype their truck.

 

[Haelous]

Well, that's actually fairly easy.

Option 1.
Order a non-sasquatch Badlands High Package with Leather and Tow.

Upgrade the stereo, order a set of 35" wheels and tires you like, order the heavy duty steering rack, and buy a set of shocks and springs you find acceptable. Install and drive.

Option 2.

Order a non-sasquatch Outer Banks High Package with the advanced 4x4 transfer case and rear locker.

Upgrade the stereo, order a set of 35" wheels and tires you like, order the heavy duty steering rack, and buy a set of shocks and springs you find acceptable. Install and drive. If you want the front locker, get the Ford Performance FDU and a set of 4.7 gears for the rear axle.

Option 3.

Order a Jeep Wrangler 392 Recon package

People should either do Option 1 or start hunting for exactly what they want on lots. The reality is that there are some loaded configs sitting on lots from people's cancelled order. Tons of Broncos for sale out there with the green window sticker.

There's no more 392 recons unless you buy off the lot. It's either constrained or done for MY23.

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