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What sort of testing/validation was done to ensure this product isn't going to put undue stress on the stock rack & pinion and cause a much more expensive failure?
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As others have shared its not too hard to do. Like most upgraded wearable parts (brake lines, tie rods, belts etc.) install the new stuff at home on your own. Learn how its done and the tools needed to do to it. That is the best time to discover you need to buy a 32mm open ended wrench etc. (just an example) Then when your done your OEM take offs become your trail spares. Bag them up, roll in cardboard and wrap with duct tap. Write with large letters on the outside with a sharpie "OEM TIE ROD, 21 Bronco". Toss them in with your trail spares. Most likely you will never need them but you will save the day for another person on the trail with them.
Sounds good - I've surprisingly accumulated a decent amount of tools, ratchet/socket sets, wrenches, and all that good stuff - ended up getting a huge pegboard to store them all instead of a toolbox. I might even have a 32mm wrench... (nope, just checked, 19mm is the largest I currently own... damn, have to order more tools ;))

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Hopefully I remember to buy these when they come out, so I can share how my installation progress went.
Would I be good to drive it a couple miles to my local tire shop afterwards to the do the alignment, or would that risk damaging things if I don't have it done within a few feet of installation?
 

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Would I be good to drive it a couple miles to my local tire shop afterwards to the do the alignment, or would that risk damaging things if I don't have it done within a few feet of installation?
Measure your OEM ones before you remove them. Pivot point to pivot point. Install the replacement unit, but adjust the new unit to match the same length as the OEM one. You might be surprised just how well it drives, with no alinement. I would still go get one, but if you set them up to match the sock units, it will drive just fine.
 

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What sort of testing/validation was done to ensure this product isn't going to put undue stress on the stock rack & pinion and cause a much more expensive failure?
There sure seems to be a lot of speculation that strengthening the tie rods will move the point of failure to the rack. Where's the proof? I don't believe it.
 
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Do these offer more articulation angle than OEM? The angles the tie rods get into is what is causing them to snap from my understanding. Any worry that just making the rods stronger it damages the steering rack?
The operating angles are about the same as stock. We still don't advocate having too much droop as it can compromise the CV's. That's why our coilovers and spacer lifts are designed to keep the steering and drivetrain components within the safe operating range at full droop. Some lift kits allow more droop than is safe, in our opinion. For example spacer lifts that get all of their lift from the top-hat spacer. That said, yes, the stock steering rack has also been a known weakness, which these tie rods do not address. BroncBuster has some good upgrades for the steering rack and we think there will be more upgrades from the aftermarket soon.
 

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Hey guys I thought I'd post a few spy pics of something we've been working on here at ICON that we've hinted at elsewhere. This is our Extreme Duty Forged Tie Rod, shown in these photos next to a stock Bronco tie rod.

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The adjustment threads, where we've seen most of the failures happen on stock tie rods, is 18mm versus 14mm on stock Bronco tie rods.

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The outer tie rod is forged steel and has the same bend as factory tie rods for fitting all of the stock factory wheel diameters and offsets, along with just about any aftermarket wheel.

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The tie rod end joint is beefier, metal on metal and greasable. It has the same operating range of angle as the stock unit.

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The inner ball stud is machined from 4140 chromoly.

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Not shown but the tie rods will come with a boot and other associated bits. These photos are of our first prototypes, which we will be displayed at the SEMA show in a couple of weeks. If you're going to be at SEMA, look for them in the ICON booth or in the New Products Showcase if you'd like to check them out in person. We're thinking the first production run will be done and ready to ship sometime in January. Pricing should end up somewhere in the $350 range for the complete kit (both sides). These will work with all HOSS 1.0 and HOSS 2.0 equipped Broncos (basically everything except Bronco Raptor and HOSS 3.0-equipped Wildtrak).

Please note that this is a sneak peek at a product that has not yet been released or announced to our dealers so if you inquire they won't know anything about it yet other than what they may have seen here. They'll get the official info and announcement when the time is right but we wanted to give you guys an early look since these are going to be at SEMA anyhow, and they have some relevance to the discussions that have been going on over in our Coilovers thread.
Possibly stupid question incoming...

Are both ends able to be rebuilt? I'm assuming TRE side, press out, press new in, but the rack side?
 

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Hey guys I thought I'd post a few spy pics of something we've been working on here at ICON that we've hinted at elsewhere. This is our Extreme Duty Forged Tie Rod, shown in these photos next to a stock Bronco tie rod.

IMG_4213.JPEG


The adjustment threads, where we've seen most of the failures happen on stock tie rods, is 18mm versus 14mm on stock Bronco tie rods.

IMG_4215.JPEG


The outer tie rod is forged steel and has the same bend as factory tie rods for fitting all of the stock factory wheel diameters and offsets, along with just about any aftermarket wheel.

IMG_4219.JPEG


The tie rod end joint is beefier, metal on metal and greasable. It has the same operating range of angle as the stock unit.

IMG_4218.JPEG


The inner ball stud is machined from 4140 chromoly.

IMG_4216.JPEG


Not shown but the tie rods will come with a boot and other associated bits. These photos are of our first prototypes, which we will be displayed at the SEMA show in a couple of weeks. If you're going to be at SEMA, look for them in the ICON booth or in the New Products Showcase if you'd like to check them out in person. We're thinking the first production run will be done and ready to ship sometime in January. Pricing should end up somewhere in the $350 range for the complete kit (both sides). These will work with all HOSS 1.0 and HOSS 2.0 equipped Broncos (basically everything except Bronco Raptor and HOSS 3.0-equipped Wildtrak).

Please note that this is a sneak peek at a product that has not yet been released or announced to our dealers so if you inquire they won't know anything about it yet other than what they may have seen here. They'll get the official info and announcement when the time is right but we wanted to give you guys an early look since these are going to be at SEMA anyhow, and they have some relevance to the discussions that have been going on over in our Coilovers thread.
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Very cool, looking forward to these hitting the market and getting them in our warehouse!

And of course we'll be installing a set on the Northridge4x4 Bronco.... :cool:
 

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The operating angles are about the same as stock. We still don't advocate having too much droop as it can compromise the CV's. That's why our coilovers and spacer lifts are designed to keep the steering and drivetrain components within the safe operating range at full droop. Some lift kits allow more droop than is safe, in our opinion. For example spacer lifts that get all of their lift from the top-hat spacer. That said, yes, the stock steering rack has also been a known weakness, which these tie rods do not address. BroncBuster has some good upgrades for the steering rack and we think there will be more upgrades from the aftermarket soon.
Im running your stg 4 coilovers and snapped my passenger inner tie rod on an pretty basic climb. That is why I was asking about angles. So even with the droop on your coilovers it's still enough to snap them. I am running 37's and I'm not upset, just looking for an actual solution to prevent more damage.
 

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Where's the proof?
Look no further than Ford. HOSS 3.0 upgrades both the rack and the tie rods. If Ford could've gotten away with upgrading just the tie rods then they probably would've done so to save $$$ on steering racks.
 

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YES! Been waiting for a beefed up, stock type (not heim) TRE. Even emailed a few mfgs that I now of that make them for other vehicles. As long as it isn't insanely priced I'm all over this.
 

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no matter who installs them (you or a shop), you will need to get an alignment afterwards

I'm not mechanically inclined, but am technologically inclined, I do computer stuff all day long (hardware/software). Curious how difficult it'll be to swap these out in my garage. I only have the jack that came with the Bronco, will I need to order a proper jack to put the truck in the air to do this? Would it be easier to just take it to a shop or dealership to install these?

Thank you for making these, looking forward to some upgrades.
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