Windows without Doors!

[mattrb87]

I have wondered this for sometime now with the Jeep Wrangler and now the Bronco. Wasn’t able to find any discussions about this in the search history of the site so forgive me if this has been discussed or obvious.

Why are the window controls below the radio on the Jeep Wrangler and on the center control arm rest on the Bronco? Why are they not still located on the door, which would free up some extra real estate on the center interface? If both vehicles already have door handles and lock/unlock buttons on their removable doors, what is the harm in putting the window controls on there and using that extra space for something else?

On the 4 door bronco, do the back seats have their own window controls and if so where are they located?

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[frinesi2]

So the driver can control any window from driver's position regardless of which doors are and aren't present.

If the driver's door is off, and the passenger door is on - are you expecting the driver to lean across the truck to wind down the passenger window?

And before you ask "why would you have the driver's door off and the passenger door one" - it doesn't matter. It can happen, so why not account for it.

And since there is a 4 door, there are even more allowable permutations, and it doesn't make sense from a manufacturing standpoint to have door switches on the doors for the 2 door and in the center console for the 4 door.

4 door rear window controls are on the back of the center console.

 

[mattrb87]

So the driver can control any window from driver's position regardless of which doors are and aren't present.

If the driver's door is off, and the passenger door is on - are you expecting the driver to lean across the truck to wind down the passenger window?

And before you ask "why would you have the driver's door off and the passenger door one" - it doesn't matter. It can happen, so why not account for it.

And since there is a 4 door, there are even more allowable permutations, and it doesn't make sense from a manufacturing standpoint to have door switches on the doors for the 2 door and in the center console for the 4 door.

4 door rear window controls are on the back of the center console.

Thank you, that makes sense and the reason I was looking for. Never considered that but I’m sure someone would drive that way.

 

[frinesi2]

And here's some fun math. For n quantity of doors you have 2^n possible combinations, so the 2-door bronco has 2^2 = 4 possible door combinations and the 4-door has 2^4 = 16 possible door combinations.

 

[frinesi2]

Right hand drive.

left hand nope

 

[frinesi2]

I have a Pontiac G8 GXP and had a GTO. The controls are in the center in order to accommodate building right & left hand drive, and to save in re-engineering. I don't have time to explain it. Google it.

ooohhhhh I can Google it!?

 

[Rivers90]

On the 4 door I can see a lot of people just taking off the front 2 doors.
My brother had a Wrangler and so did some friends. Going doorless was fun. If you have the back seats folded down and camping gear back there having the back doors on cold keep stuff from falling out on the trail. Also most of the time it was just 2 people in each vehicle.

I had a Mazda mx5 and it had the window control in the center too. So it is not that unusual.

 

[BlazinGTO]

I did briefly wonder why the controls were in the middle but it makes since now.

Oddly, this will be my 4th vehicle with center window controls. 2 berettas, a gto and now the bronco.

 

[Virtual-Chris]

It also reduces the wiring harness running to the drivers door on a 4 door... which makes disconnecting it easier.

 

[1979]

It’s not like they’re deleting features to make space for the buttons anyway.

What would you prefer they use that extra space for?

 

[Coldsmoke]

I would submit that it may have something to do with the connection point requiring an active power connection if the controls were on the door. With the switches mounted elsewhere then power is only active when the switches are activated and they might want to reduce the likelihood of potential problems when installing/removing the door. I don't know....just a thought.

 

[mattrb87]

It’s not like they’re deleting features to make space for the buttons anyway.

What would you prefer they use that extra space for?

perhaps AC cooled seats buttons...an extra cup holder lol jk. Idk, just wondering what they were there

 

[tracythemighty]

perhaps AC cooled seats buttons...an extra cup holder lol jk. Idk, just wondering what they were there

I thought it was a good question. My Mini Cooper has the buttons in the center too, so it won't be anything unusual for me....Now the size of the Bronco compared to my Mini, that's something I'll have to get used to... lol

 

[negativezero]

And before you ask "why would you have the driver's door off and the passenger door one" - it doesn't matter. It can happen, so why not account for it.

If that's as worst-case-silly as you were prepared to pre-answer for, boy have I got something that'll shake you!

My initial question (just reading the thread title alone) was "why the HELL would someone want to take the doors off, but leave the windows on the Bronco?"

 

[MaverickMan]

I did briefly wonder why the controls were in the middle but it makes since now.

Oddly, this will be my 4th vehicle with center window controls. 2 berettas, a gto and now the bronco.

I used to have a Beretta! 89 5spd GT fun car, didnt take long to get to the 117 MPH limiter. Pretty solid around the turns. Used to deliver pizzas out in the country in it. My brother used to race em on a circle track. He won alot of championships in em.

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