When you air down your tires, does the TPMS go nuts?

[EmCon]

There is also a place in Utah that has a 4-way system that is cheaper than you can build one for. Can't remember their name, though.

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[userdude]

If you’re not looking to do this yourself, I imagine the cost of a MORRflate hose kit isn’t that much more than this list plus tax. The owner has done some AMA and podcasts that were super informative and assured me he knows what he’s doing before I purchased. He also speaks to things like why you don’t need a quarter inch hose, as the 3/8 doesn’t restrict you at all unless you are pushing like 20 CFM into aftermarket valves.

Yeah, it's actually quite a bit cheaper. This looks like around ~$170; my MORRFlate w/four hose setup delivered was $430 (and it's the older TenSix, not the fancy new one). MORRFlate is dear with their hose setups. Even suggesting the FiveSix instead, it's still $160 + manifold $85 + hoses (can't figure out how much the two hose is?). Their four hose start at $205 plus shipping, and they are definitely made in China.

 

[gjptennis]

I used to run the MORRFlate 2 hose - still use it to air down. but I installed an Apex hose reel on the rear roll bar and ran a hose from my ARB compressor in the engine bay through the frame and up through (and behind the driver side tail light) up to the reel. I use an open flow chuck and only air up one at a time now. I'm done way faster than when I used the MORRFlate 2 hose set up. plus it is much cleaner and I don't have to carry all those hoses all the time, which was a bit of a pain

 

[userdude]

I used to run the MORRFlate 2 hose - still use it to air down. but I installed an Apex hose reel on the rear roll bar and ran a hose from my ARB compressor in the engine bay through the frame and up through (and behind the driver side tail light) up to the reel. I use an open flow chuck and only air up one at a time now. I'm done way faster than when I used the MORRFlate 2 hose set up. plus it is much cleaner and I don't have to carry all those hoses all the time, which was a bit of a pain

Even Tyler from MORRFlate talks about how all the hose systems are overrated. He uses the FiveSix. I definitely think it's a marginal gain over setting up and tearing down a TenSix. Not having to connect and put away a compressor and hoses? Definitely could be the fastest, short of the connections at each tire some setup.

 

[Warhorn]

Yeah, it's actually quite a bit cheaper. This looks like around ~$170; my MORRFlate w/four hose setup delivered was $430 (and it's the older TenSix, not the fancy new one). MORRFlate is dear with their hose setups. Even suggesting the FiveSix instead, it's still $160 + manifold $85 + hoses (can't figure out how much the two hose is?). Their four hose start at $205 plus shipping, and they are definitely made in China.

Ah, I didn't realize that was inclusive of the compressor. That is indeed quite a bit cheaper.

Regarding the MORRflate manufacturing, Tyler has been pretty open about his initial journey to private label a generic compressor and then iterate upon the design. Personally, I don't believe that American manufacturing creates a superior product, and the hose kit I received from them feels like one of the more quality things I've purchased recently. While it does, I assume, come from an overseas manufacturer, Tyler has worked with them to iterate off of their base product with improved components that Tyler saw as weak points.

Here is a (rather lengthy) podcast where he goes into details: https://www.snailtrail4x4.com/451-air-compressors/

 

[gjptennis]

Even Tyler from MORRFlate talks about how all the hose systems are overrated. He uses the FiveSix. I definitely think it's a marginal gain over setting up and tearing down a TenSix. Not having to connect and put away a compressor and hoses? Definitely could be the fastest, short of the connections at each tire some setup.

Agree - my ARB twin is plenty fast enough and now that I don't have to mess with hoses to air up - just unreel, attach and go - it's so much easier to deal with. maybe one day I will consider a central tire inflate/deflate and just push a button. not necessary now and not putting portals in any time soon either

 

[userdude]

Ah, I didn't realize that was inclusive of the compressor. That is indeed quite a bit cheaper.

Regarding the MORRflate manufacturing, Tyler has been pretty open about his initial journey to private label a generic compressor and then iterate upon the design. Personally, I don't believe that American manufacturing creates a superior product, and the hose kit I received from them feels like one of the more quality things I've purchased recently. While it does, I assume, come from an overseas manufacturer, Tyler has worked with them to iterate off of their base product with improved components that Tyler saw as weak points.

Here is a (rather lengthy) podcast where he goes into details: https://www.snailtrail4x4.com/451-air-compressors/

I put it confusingly; I don't think what was proposed was the compressor too. I was just lazy and didn't go look at what I paid for the hoses in September 2023. I think they were around $200 w/manifold. I can't imagine that won't go up with the significant tariffs on Chinese imports, but probably a lot of these parts listed above would also go up, as well. My guess is you could possibly lower the above cost with some cheaper parts; MF has to have some real economies of scale if theirs is only $50 or so more. The MF stuff is nice but there are better chucks/setups out there.

The whole compressor saga is pretty funny. They're all made by the same factory in China (I think like 95% of compressors come from this factory). It's a white label manufacturer; they do all the design and componentry and you say what features you want your product to have, like looking in an ordering catalog. Their sales rep makes a pass around to everyone and wudduya know, several of the compressors resellers have updated shiny new SKUs... lol

For instance, Tyler at first tried to claim he came up with the digital manifold, but that's a part designed and available by the manufacturer. He does seem to have prodded them to update the plastic heat sinks and allow an internal pressure release valve, which of course are good improvements. He says he's got patents on some of that, but we'll see if it matters.

Don't get me wrong, I like Tyler and MF, but a lot of wacky stuff goes on around these fancy compressors. lol

 

[vrtical]

I used to run the MORRFlate 2 hose - still use it to air down. but I installed an Apex hose reel on the rear roll bar and ran a hose from my ARB compressor in the engine bay through the frame and up through (and behind the driver side tail light) up to the reel. I use an open flow chuck and only air up one at a time now. I'm done way faster than when I used the MORRFlate 2 hose set up. plus it is much cleaner and I don't have to carry all those hoses all the time, which was a bit of a pain

same but I havent switched yet but I am putting in a reel. I am just not that big of a hurry to dig out lines to 4 tires, now I just use one line for 2 tires a time.

 

[gjptennis]

same but I havent switched yet but I am putting in a reel. I am just not that big of a hurry to dig out lines to 4 tires, now I just use one line for 2 tires a time.

the reel is life changing - haha! was it a pita to run the air line from the engine bay through the frame? oh yeah, that was definitely not fun. but the time saved has been a game changer. you will definitely appreciate it once you install it. after it was all done, I wondered why I didn't do it sooner

 

[vrtical]

the reel is life changing - haha! was it a pita to run the air line from the engine bay through the frame? oh yeah, that was definitely not fun. but the time saved has been a game changer. you will definitely appreciate it once you install it. after it was all done, I wondered why I didn't do it sooner

I have a rear cage system and my dual compressor is mounted to it on the driver side so the air line will be cake. I just need to work on the bracket adapter for the APEX as I have the brace in those mount locations.

 

[Warhorn]

I put it confusingly; I don't think what was proposed was the compressor too. I was just lazy and didn't go look at what I paid for the hoses in September 2023. I think they were around $200 w/manifold. I can't imagine that won't go up with the significant tariffs on Chinese imports, but probably a lot of these parts listed above would also go up, as well. My guess is you could possibly lower the above cost with some cheaper parts; MF has to have some real economies of scale if theirs is only $50 or so more. The MF stuff is nice but there are better chucks/setups out there.

The whole compressor saga is pretty funny. They're all made by the same factory in China (I think like 95% of compressors come from this factory). It's a white label manufacturer; they do all the design and componentry and you say what features you want your product to have, like looking in an ordering catalog. Their sales rep makes a pass around to everyone and wudduya know, several of the compressors resellers have updated shiny new SKUs... lol

For instance, Tyler at first tried to claim he came up with the digital manifold, but that's a part designed and available by the manufacturer. He does seem to have prodded them to update the plastic heat sinks and allow an internal pressure release valve, which of course are good improvements. He says he's got patents on some of that, but we'll see if it matters.

Don't get me wrong, I like Tyler and MF, but a lot of wacky stuff goes on around these fancy compressors. lol

This makes sense, I'm also reading this while on Zoom meetings for work so I may have just lost some things in between conversations there.

The compressor thing is very interesting. Tyler mentioned that he worked with the manufacturer to make some improvements and then they got sold out from under him essentially. It sounds like after the TenSix PSI Pro this happened again and now he has patents on the latest iteration of it, but we'll see how it holds up. Before digging into it I had assumed they were all the same, I think a change in how the compressor visually looks may help break that, but until then I think people will (rightfully) assume they are all pretty similar.

I was about to order a TenSix as I'm currently still using my Milwaukee M18 inflator, but may look into the smaller one now after seeing some people comment on this thread. Learning alot these days.

 

[userdude]

This makes sense, I'm also reading this while on Zoom meetings for work so I may have just lost some things in between conversations there.

The compressor thing is very interesting. Tyler mentioned that he worked with the manufacturer to make some improvements and then they got sold out from under him essentially. It sounds like after the TenSix PSI Pro this happened again and now he has patents on the latest iteration of it, but we'll see how it holds up. Before digging into it I had assumed they were all the same, I think a change in how the compressor visually looks may help break that, but until then I think people will (rightfully) assume they are all pretty similar.

I was about to order a TenSix as I'm currently still using my Milwaukee M18 inflator, but may look into the smaller one now after seeing some people comment on this thread. Learning alot these days.

I have the TenSix and would recommend the FiveSix if you want a dual or four hose setup. With more than one hose, it's the setup and tear down that ends up being the time sink. For me it takes longer to setup and tear down than air up the tires. Plus it's physically smaller (the TenSix compressor bag by itself is the same as a bread box and the four hoses take up a lot of room), so it's easier to carry. Plus it's just cheaper.

They split anyways, so two FiveSix's would equal a TenSix in speed, since each tire is getting the same amount of air (and is basically the max a Shrader valve can move).

Tyler himself thinks four hoses are a gimmick but says he sells them because they're popular.

One thing I probably would have sprung for is the digital manifold on the compressor (it hadn't come out yet when I got mine). Set it and forget it. I think the FiveSix has a PSI Pro, which is the model name. Note, if you get the digital hose manifold, you HAVE to let the air out of the hoses afterwards or it'll run the batteries down.

 

[Warhorn]

I have the TenSix and would recommend the FiveSix if you want a dual or four hose setup. With more than one hose, it's the setup and tear down that ends up being the time sink. For me it takes longer to setup and tear down than air up the tires. Plus it's physically smaller (the TenSix compressor bag by itself is the same as a bread box and the four hoses take up a lot of room), so it's easier to carry. Plus it's just cheaper.

They split anyways, so two FiveSix's would equal a TenSix in speed, since each tire is getting the same amount of air (and is basically the max a Shrader valve can move).

Tyler himself thinks four hoses are a gimmick but says he sells them because they're popular.

One thing I probably would have sprung for is the digital manifold on the compressor (it hadn't come out yet when I got mine). Set it and forget it. I think the FiveSix has a PSI Pro, which is the model name. Note, if you get the digital hose manifold, you HAVE to let the air out of the hoses afterwards or it'll run the batteries down.

I'll definitely make sure I spend some time checking out the FiveSix, and am for sure looking at the PSI Pro version just from a quality of life standpoint. Appreciate you sharing, and that is a sweet photo you caught there.

 

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